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Arquinsiel posted:Someone posted here a while back that MERDC is wrong for US vehicles in Europe in the 80's. What schemes should I look at for an 82-84 ish force? MERDC was standard up to the mid 80s. After that they started using NATO 3-color. It wasn't introduced overnight or in a uniform manner, so a mix is fine. (I was USMC, they changed over a few years later. We'd send a vehicle out to be rebuild and receive a replacement in NATO 3-color, so platoons had both.) Phi230 posted:NORTHAG will fill the hole that Team Yankee left in my heart So, so true.
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Cessna posted:MERDC was standard up to the mid 80s. After that they started using NATO 3-color. It wasn't introduced overnight or in a uniform manner, so a mix is fine.
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NORTHAG will be dope. In that interview Warwick said it'll keep the bones of Battlegroup which is already a really solid, fun ruleset. Speaking of which, does anyone have a link to which forces are covered in what books? That's been the most confusing part of trying to decide which supplements are useful for my gaming group.
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Jan 27, 2018 04:05
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Battlegroup does things in campaign books. Pick your theatre and get the book for it and you should be covered for both sides.
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Jan 27, 2018 04:59
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I just hope NORTHAG doesn't go NATOboo like TY.
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Jan 27, 2018 06:28
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Just 6mm things.     All from the Team Yankee 6mm facebook group.
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Polikarpov posted:Just 6mm things. I saw 6mm Team Yankee at Cancon today, just beautiful!
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Arquinsiel posted:Were USMC units deployed to Germany? From what I've found of Reforger '83 images it seems that the heavier vehicles there are a boring green. At 6mm this might actually matter, since telling apart M113s and FV432s at that scale at a glance might be awkward. I think the US 2nd Marine Division was involved in some REFORGER exercises. I don't think there were ever any seriously concrete plans to actually deploy it, though.
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tomdidiot posted:I think the US 2nd Marine Division was involved in some REFORGER exercises. I don't think there were ever any seriously concrete plans to actually deploy it, though.
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Polikarpov posted:Just 6mm things. Better for my wallet as well.
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Commissar Kip posted:gently caress Battlefront - I’m getting myself some 6mm action. Yeah, I think that has to be everyone's reaction basically. Moderns should be in 6mm.
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Jan 28, 2018 10:08
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Moderns work fine from fireteam up TBH but after you have more than a platoon on the table you probably want to start dropping scale, with a scale per org level really. After a company with support it's time for 6mm or smaller.
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While I do believe 28mm has a great spot in skirmish scale, bigger games are better at smaller scales, yes. If you really care about a single rifleman like you would in Skirmish Sangin or Force on Force, might as well multibase, and if you multibase, why not 6mm?
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I still like the idea of a game of Tanks! or a competing equivalent (Hello? Is there anybody in there?) played at 15mm for the detail, but if I was ever to do TY or NORTHAG it'd be at 6mm. Battlegroup, I'd stick with the 15mm ww2 stuff I already have, probably works fine, just.
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The 10mm moderns that psc produce could be a good scale. A little large, but they should be good value. I really want to take a look at spearhead modern for divsional scale conflicts.
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Arquinsiel posted:Were USMC units deployed to Germany? From what I've found of Reforger '83 images it seems that the heavier vehicles there are a boring green. At 6mm this might actually matter, since telling apart M113s and FV432s at that scale at a glance might be awkward. The USMC has three divisions. 1st Marine Division is on Camp Pendleton, California. 2nd MarDiv is from Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. 3rd MarDiv is stationed on Okinawa. There are smaller units scattered elsewhere, and the Air Wings follow a broadly similar plan. If there had been a war in Europe in the mid 80's, the 2nd MarDiv would have been sent over immediately, if not sooner (that is, when tensions were building up). They probably wouldn't have been sent into the middle of the Fulda Gap - that's Army territory, and the USMC isn't a tank-heavy force built for that environment. Instead, they would have been sent to fight on one of the flanks. The 80's saw a lot of deployments to Norway, the Team Yankee game postulates Denmark, and the John Hackett book Third World War that Team Yankee's scenario is roughly based on has the USMC sent to Yugoslavia/the Balkans. Northern coastal Germany was possible, think "amphibious raid on an exposed flank." The 2nd (and 1st) Marine Division's tanks and AAVs were all painted in "Winter Verdant" MERDC in the 80's, which is mostly green and brown. (3rd MarDiv's were "Tropical Verdant," mostly greens.) "Winter" is a bit misleading here, it worked fine in the summer as well and vehicles weren't repainted season-to-season. (The exception is that for winter deployments they might have the brown painted over with white to make "Snow with Trees.") Humvees and LAVs were newer vehicles; except for a few prototypes they were always painted in NATO 3-color. I never saw one on MERDC. It's possible they existed, but again, never saw it. Battlefront is wrong here, they painted their stuff to be more "uniform" than it would have been in reality.
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Like I said: Cessna posted:Humvees and LAVs were newer vehicles; except for a few prototypes they were always painted in NATO 3-color. I never saw one on MERDC. It's possible they existed, but again, never saw it. Battlefront is wrong here, they painted their stuff to be more "uniform" than it would have been in reality. That's probably a prototype or a very early production model from the time when the USMC was first buying Hummers - or, possibly, from when the Navy was testing the LCAC. I never saw a Humvee painted like that, but I saw whole motor pools full of Hummers painted in NATO 3-color throughout my time in. If you paint yours like that, you're painting a rare exception. That's fine, of course, but understand what you're doing isn't what was standard for the time. Edit: Also, keep in mind that I'm talking USMC here. I wasn't in the army, so I don't know how things went for them. I do know that the USMC made the switch from MERDC to NATO camouflage a few years after the army. Up to mid 1988 every vehicle (M-60A1 or AAV) on the 1st Tracks ramp was painted in MERDC and every Hummer in the Motor Pool was NATO; I've got old photos that can verify this. After that we'd send vehicles back to higher-echelon maintenance for periodic rebuilds - we'd send out a vehicle in MERDC and get one back in NATO camouflage. This continued up to just before the Gulf War in 1990 - things were still a bit of a hodge-podge, as the transition wasn't complete. But, again, Humvees and LAVs were new. They came straight from the factory in NATO camouflage, and it was verboten to paint over that paint. Cessna fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Jan 29, 2018 |
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NTRabbit posted:I still like the idea of a game of Tanks! or a competing equivalent (Hello? Is there anybody in there?) played at 15mm for the detail, but if I was ever to do TY or NORTHAG it'd be at 6mm. Battlegroup, I'd stick with the 15mm ww2 stuff I already have, probably works fine, just. Tanks! needed some kind of novelty in its mechanical approach the way X-wing has and it was just a bad knockoff instead.
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Don’t know anything about camouflage but starting at about the ten minute mark there are a few anecdotes about the Marines participating in NATO exercises. https://youtu.be/RL4__NVYByw
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Cessna posted:The USMC has three divisions. 1st Marine Division is on Camp Pendleton, California. 2nd MarDiv is from Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. 3rd MarDiv is stationed on Okinawa. There are smaller units scattered elsewhere, and the Air Wings follow a broadly similar plan. Panzeh posted:Tanks! needed some kind of novelty in its mechanical approach the way X-wing has and it was just a bad knockoff instead.
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Click for samurai action, stay for the goofy miniatures.
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JcDent posted:Click for samurai action, stay for the goofy miniatures. The samurai board screams 90s WHFB with the colours and the homemade, but nicely homemade terrain, its glorious
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Arquinsiel posted:This is the good stuff. Thanks. I'm more than happy to help with questions about that era's USMC.
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Played Test of Honour again tonight. Really solid game that came down to the last few models, and the first time I've tried to play with all the rules. Anyone else here play it?
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Thundercloud posted:Played Test of Honour again tonight. Really solid game that came down to the last few models, and the first time I've tried to play with all the rules. I picked it up when it was released, and I'm putting together two warbands right now inbetween all the other stuff I'm doing. I have a lot of painted samurai, but I thought I'd paint up two "proper" factions with the circular bases and everything. But I haven't gotten around to play the game yet.
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How many figures per team does a typical Test of Honor game use?
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Yay!
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Cessna posted:The USMC has three divisions. 1st Marine Division is on Camp Pendleton, California. 2nd MarDiv is from Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. 3rd MarDiv is stationed on Okinawa. There are smaller units scattered elsewhere, and the Air Wings follow a broadly similar plan. how could you forget 4th div tampons?
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Cross-posting from the painting progress thread, decided to do force progress charts for all of my Chain of Command stuff:   
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Class Warcraft posted:How many figures per team does a typical Test of Honor game use? About half a dozen to a dozen. The better guys are about 3-5 pts each, and most commoners are 1-2 pts each, and people seem to settle for 24 pts per side in the facebook group and for tournaments. Ilor posted:Cross-posting from the painting progress thread, decided to do force progress charts for all of my Chain of Command stuff: Cool! Did you make these yourself?
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Class Warcraft posted:How many figures per team does a typical Test of Honor game use? I played with 15 in a 24 point force last night, but I took 3 samurai. It plays good and quick.
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My goon buddy is thinking of doing a mecha RPG campaign and is looking for information about armored cav operating in jungles. Any books you could recommend, especially Ospreys?
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lilljonas posted:Cool! Did you make these yourself?
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I bought Seekrieg 5
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Hey dudes, for our latest episode of Combined Arms Podcast we reviewed Forager http://combinedarms.podomatic.com
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Normally I wouldn't bring up the C-SPAM Gunpla challenge in this thread, because you guys paint horses and people instead of robots, but I think this time it's right up your alley The November-January C-SPAM Gunpla Challenge is complete! The theme was "The Nixon Years" and boy did people rise to that challenge. Congratulations to all the completed entries! But it's February now, and that means the new C-SPAM Gunpla Challenge has begun! The theme this time is Historical Empires! What would it be like if Ogedai Khan had piloted a robot instead of riding a horse? Can a Gundam be a trireme? Imagine the Soviet Unions rolling into Hungary in Guntanks instead of regular tanks. Whatever you can come up with, as long as it's in some way related to an empire from history, it's fair game! The challenge runs for two months, so we've got lots of time. Get your entries in by March 31st!
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Well this sounds fun as hell! Thanks for bringing it over here.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Imagine the Soviet Unions rolling into Hungary in Guntanks instead of regular tanks. https://us-store.warlordgames.com/collections/konflikt-47/products/soviet-cossack-light-walker Just glue an anime sword to this sucker and you're ready to party.
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