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What I wish is that they had been more accepting of his guidance and advice. Because he had an outline for ‘7,’ ‘8,’ and ‘9’. And it is vastly different to what they have done.

Ingmar terdman posted:

Let's just cancel 9. The broom kid scene was a fulfilling cap on the whole thing

euphronius posted:

I honestly agree . I have no idea what they are going to do with 9 as it seems 8 finished a lot of stories.

euphronius posted:

I honestly agree . I have no idea what they are going to do with 9 as it seems 8 finished a lot of stories.

Captain Splendid posted:

The thing is I'm trying to envision any way it all ends without it just being a return to the status quo we got left with in RotJ.

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Gordon Liu plays Liu Yude, a working class student in Qing Dynasty Guangdong. He's the son of a fishmonger, sick of seeing his family and friends persecuted by the Manchu oppressors who rule the province with an iron fist. Although he joins a group of revolutionaries, their plans are discovered by the Manchus and a bloody massacre ensues. Liu escapes and manages - starving and injured - to literally crawl his way through the woods and up the mountains to Shaolin Temple, the place where he’s heard they teach kung fu. Although Shaolin is closed to outsiders, the monks take him in and heal him, seeing his arrival as an act of providence. There's initial resistance to training him but, when it's clear he's not giving up, they give him a monk name (San Te) and allow him to enter the 35 training chambers.

It's quite a daring narrative in that at least an hour of the film is devoted to training sequences (something most films get finished in a five minute montage) but it’s never dull. Most of the chambers are iconic and imaginative. The earlier ones play San Te's incompetence for laughs but, as he moves through the chambers and improves his skills, the tasks become harder and more exciting. Some focus on training individual parts of the body, such as the incredible 'Head Chamber' where he has to fight his way through hanging sandbags using only his head. There are chambers devoted to the practice of individual weapons. Others focus on mental discipline, like the 'Eye Chamber' where he stands between two flaming sticks and tries not to move his head while watching a pendulum swing. It’s almost like a Saw trap!

Eventually, San Te creates his own weapon - a three-jointed nunchaku that needs to be seen in action to be believed - and becomes both physically and mentally ready to become true Shaolin. Having completed the training in record time, he petitions the Temple to open a '36th Chamber' that allows laymen to learn kung fu, thus creating a force of highly-trained martial artists ready to start a full blown revolution against the Manchus. The rest is, literally, history.

Groovelord Neato posted:

i love that colin lost the job because he made such an absolutely lovely movie.

porfiria posted:

Rey and Kylo's son, Luke Ren, is corrupted by the sinister and shadowy Snope. Only a Force sensitive orphan from desert planet of Tatthreeine and her new friend, an ex-Neo Stormtrooper (played by a Native American actor, a first for the series) can save the Insurrection and defeat the malevolent Last Order.

UmOk posted:

Which one was that?

Spacebump posted:

Things I expect to see in 9.
A funeral for Leia.
Ghost Luke and maybe a few more ghost Jedi talking to Rey.
Kylo Ren and the Knights of Ren will die, likely by Rey's lightsaber.
Rey might make a new light saber that is double edged.
The film ends with Rey starting a new Jedi Order.
Poe will help in an important space battle and may sacrifice himself.
No idea what Finn will do.
Lando will get a cameo.

euphronius posted:

I honestly agree . I have no idea what they are going to do with 9 as it seems 8 finished a lot of stories.

Ema Nymton posted:

After 8 I have no idea what to expect because expectations are made to be unmet nowadays. But I do expect 5 things:

Rey holding Kylo/Ben in pieta pose, dead or alive
Kylo's body will get loving rekt like Anakin, either by friends or foes, whether he's redeemed or no
Ben Solo appears (in flashback or present), and his goodness will be telegraphed by revealing his gigantic goofy un-Darkside ears
Hux dies unredeemed
BB-9E is redeemed


8 didn't finish poo poo. Only Kylo and Rey accomplished anything, and even then it amounted to nothing.

euphronius posted:

??? The rebellion died . Liea is ideologically dead . Luke is dead .

UmOk posted:

I'm calling that the Knights of Ren return from wherever they are and rebel against Supreme Leader, causing him to have to team up with the Rebsistance to destroy some new faction of First order(second order?)

CelticPredator posted:

The opening crawl should just be
gently caress YOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOU...

TildeATH posted:

Star Wars Episode IX:
On Second Thought This Is A Fine Helmet

KYLO REN has decided to wear
his old helmet. The remarks about
it’s dumbness have been discarded
along with the adjusted location
of his scar. With his actually BADASS
HELMET he leads the search for
the last remaining merchandising.

TildeATH posted:

Star Wars Episode IX:
On Second Thought This Is A Fine Helmet

KYLO REN has decided to wear
his old helmet. The remarks about
it’s dumbness have been discarded
along with the adjusted location
of his scar. With his actually BADASS
HELMET he leads the search for
the last remaining merchandising.

Groovelord Neato posted:

i can understand digging the movie but loving lol

Ingmar terdman posted:

Let's just cancel 9. The broom kid scene was a fulfilling cap on the whole thing

Captain von Trapp posted:

quote:

Ren (Chinese: 仁) is the Confucian virtue denoting the good feeling a virtuous human experiences when being altruistic. Ren is exemplified by a normal adult's protective feelings for children. It is considered the outward expression of Confucian ideals.

Yan Hui, one of the Four Sages, once asked his master to describe the rules of ren. Confucius replied, "One should see nothing improper, hear nothing improper, say nothing improper, do nothing improper." Confucius also defined ren in the following way: "wishing to be established himself, seeks also to establish others; wishing to be enlarged himself, he seeks also to enlarge others." Confucius also said, "Ren is not far off; he who seeks it has already found it." Ren is close to man and never leaves him.

Hodgepodge posted:

I mean, that sounds like an ideal the Jedi should be living up to, and could be called a balance between the light and the Dark Side.

Schwarzwald posted:

It does sound very similar to Anakin's line, "Compassion, which I would define as unconditional love, is essential to a Jedi's life."

It also sounds like a complete refutation of what most Jedi claim the dark side is, so I don't see how would in any way be a balance.

bushisms.txt posted:

Please point to better acted more nuanced scenes than anything where Daisy and Driver share the screen. The throne room shot where Snoke is cut in half to the sword flying to Daisy is the best shot in the series. Sorry you didn't enjoy the movie.

Hodgepodge posted:

The Jedi Code is self-denying altruism. The Dark Side is total selfishness. This is seeking to ennoble oneself through altruism.

The Cameo posted:

https://youtu.be/QMk0-pZfx5Q

https://youtu.be/lhX5V-wICuw

I mean, really, the lightsaber going to Rey isn't even a great shot within the movie itself, let alone the entire series.

Schwarzwald posted:

I don't see how "altruism is ennobling" is meaningfully distinct from "compassion is essential" in this context.

Captain von Trapp posted:

The Cameo posted:

https://youtu.be/QMk0-pZfx5Q

https://youtu.be/lhX5V-wICuw

I mean, really, the lightsaber going to Rey isn't even a great shot within the movie itself, let alone the entire series.

bushisms.txt posted:

You really think those are on the level thematically as two characters thinking about tossing out the philosophy of the entire series?