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My Little Mark III weighs five pounds and my back is not ground to dust. The tone isn't there, but neither is the scoliosis. ....doesn't mean I don't want one of those Sunn heads. They are baller as gently caress.
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How much do you have to carry your amp around anyway? Even when on tour you carry it from the van to the stage and vice versa. I mean i get that an 8x10 is a pain in the rear end but a grown man should be abled to carry an amp without breaking their back, even if it's 60 lbs like mine.
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Jan 25, 2018 22:44
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Dyna Soar posted:How much do you have to carry your amp around anyway? Even when on tour you carry it from the van to the stage and vice versa. I mean i get that an 8x10 is a pain in the rear end but a grown man should be abled to carry an amp without breaking their back, even if it's 60 lbs like mine. You’re overestimating the physical strength and lifting knowledge of the average person by a very large amount.
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And sometimes venues have stairwells you have to go up and stuff. It can be exhausting. I traded in a big heavy Ampeg cab simply because it was so hard to move around myself. Went Avatar with neos and glad I did. Slightly less beefy sound but I can live with that knowing I can pick the thing up and throw it in a car myself.
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I was in a band with beefy weightlifters and they always complained about hauling the Trace combo around
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Dyna Soar posted:How much do you have to carry your amp around anyway? Even when on tour you carry it from the van to the stage and vice versa. I mean i get that an 8x10 is a pain in the rear end but a grown man should be abled to carry an amp without breaking their back, even if it's 60 lbs like mine. You say "van to stage and vice versa" like it's a level, straight shot through a wide door. While that is sometimes the case, often it's not, especially if you're in a band that isn't touring. If you're in a regular, local band, you're playing regular, local gigs at regular, local venues--and these are often places that were set up according to one of the following scenarios:
Case in point: the Hi-Pointe in St. Louis. Don't know if they still have bands there, but back in the day, they did. The load-in door was in the back. It was a narrow door, just wide enough for an Ampeg 8x10 cab. So if, like me, you have a really wide amp, you had to to through sideways, and hopefully you knew that before you tried to go in. Anyway, once inside, you have 4 feet before the first flight of stairs. This flight goes to a landing where you must turn and go up the next flight of stairs. This flight goes to a landing where there's a door that's hopefully unlocked. Then, and only then, have you loaded that first piece of gear. So, for a band of 3 people, that's about one trip for your instruments, one for your head, one for your cab, and one more to go and park your car... assuming you didn't need to make a fourth trip up for even more gear (like effects or drums). It seems engineered specifically to be hard on anyone loading in gear. At least there was an old, ratty couch on the dance floor, though.
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Jan 26, 2018 04:23
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Some of the worst stairs I've ever had to carry 4 stacks up, Rudyards in Houston, Starlight Lounge in San Jose (or Sacramento?) The Cave in Chapel Hill NC. I know I have pictures of these beasts, I'll dig em up tomorrow.
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Jan 26, 2018 04:29
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Yeah I've played in an old bomb shelter, we had to carry everything 3-4 stories downstairs. Even the cabs, no elevators. Those places are rare though. I mean most guys here probably don't tour for a living, I'm just saying that if you do 10-20 gigs per year like me hauling that 60 lbs amp around is not a huge deal.
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Jan 26, 2018 06:54
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I have two different band practices a week and play a show every other weekend or so. During times like SXSW it'll be two shows in a weekend. Each time I go out with my gear, it's four trips (load, unload, load, unload). It's pretty gnarly sometimes, but I get to jam really loudly, and that's my poo poo. I should invest in a road case to protect the bigass 6550s in this new head.
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Jan 26, 2018 12:44
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Do you have to use your main setup in both bands?
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Jan 26, 2018 13:04
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If we're messing around with recording in my friend's home studio I can leave my rig at home and just run off my pedalboard. A lot of venues prefer to take an XLR out from my b7k and don't bother to mic the cab, a good venue will do both. I don't have a lightweight rig to just bring to practice but I do roll with just one cab. I need a cab sim, really, fuzz sounds worse through a PA with no cab. Speaking of, the new b7k ultra v2 and alpha Omega ultra both have a nifty cab sim where you load the sim by USB and have a button to turn it on/off. Wish I could afford the upgrade.
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Dyna Soar posted:Yeah I've played in an old bomb shelter, we had to carry everything 3-4 stories downstairs. Even the cabs, no elevators. Those places are rare though. I mean most guys here probably don't tour for a living, I'm just saying that if you do 10-20 gigs per year like me hauling that 60 lbs amp around is not a huge deal. Don’t care what kind of music you played, that’s the most metal show that ever happened 
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I bought an ART tube preamp to use as a DI for my bass rig and of course it’s DOA. Returning later.
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okay, I'm finally going to buy a bass for recording demos and the like. probably more on the metal end of the spectrum. would like to get something that I'm not going to want to replace anytime soon, so a decent variety of sounds plus good playability. Probably a five string? Thinking about the Yamaha BBP735 (which is about $800)--is that reasonable? Is there something else I should consider entirely? halp I'm an idiot with basses
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The other lovely part about a lot of older all tube bass heads, such as the ampeg v4, is that they had a single handle on the top of the head and weighed about 70 lbs. The weight was never the problem but the lack of a good grip was always something to gripe about.
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Professor Science posted:okay, I'm finally going to buy a bass for recording demos and the like. probably more on the metal end of the spectrum. would like to get something that I'm not going to want to replace anytime soon, so a decent variety of sounds plus good playability. Probably a five string? Thinking about the Yamaha BBP735 (which is about $800)--is that reasonable? Is there something else I should consider entirely? halp I'm an idiot with basses Thats a rad bass, but go for the 4 string. Really I would go for a sub $500 used Fender MIM way before I would buy a brand new bass, especially if it's not your main instrument.
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Professor Science posted:okay, I'm finally going to buy a bass for recording demos and the like. probably more on the metal end of the spectrum. would like to get something that I'm not going to want to replace anytime soon, so a decent variety of sounds plus good playability. Probably a five string? Thinking about the Yamaha BBP735 (which is about $800)--is that reasonable? Is there something else I should consider entirely? halp I'm an idiot with basses
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:Seems like Ibanez has the market cornered on bass guitars used in metal but do you have some examples of what sort of metal you would be playing? How about tunings? Anything below B you probably would want to look into a bass with a 35" scale.
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Jan 28, 2018 07:49
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If you're not 100% sure you need a 5-string, don't get a 5-string. More strings does not equal better. Most bassists in this world go with a 4 string, same as most guitarists don't need 7 or 8 strings.
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Jan 28, 2018 08:19
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Altar Of Plagues doesn't have a bass player though.
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I play metal with a P-bass tuned to C or C# and a lot of metal bassists use a J. My advice is don't get too hung up with getting a "metal" bass, P's and J's work really well in metal. I especially like P's since they're real punchy and cut through the mix well. Then again as far as basses go I'm a Fender fanboy, hah. Dave Edwardson of Neurosis, who Altar Of Plagues pretty much owe their whole style to, plays an Ibanez Roadstar II. Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Jan 28, 2018 |
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:Altar Of Plagues doesn't have a bass player though. they did a long time ago, at least!
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You can always string a 4 string BEAD for metal too.
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So I've got a new rehearsal space sharing it with a couple of other bands and bassists, was thinking of chipping in to get a rehearsal amp. What would you consider a pretty affordable option? The other bassists aren't exactly rolling in money.
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Shageletic posted:So I've got a new rehearsal space sharing it with a couple of other bands and bassists, was thinking of chipping in to get a rehearsal amp. What would you consider a pretty affordable option? The other bassists aren't exactly rolling in money. Old Peaveys, from the 70's to the 90's. Old late 70's Mark III's are loving awesome but have a pretty distict sound, works well in punk & metal but probably not if you wanna play at somewhat lower levels. A firebass / Peavey Max (same head, different name) is a very powerful head (475 watts @ 8 omhs, 700 watts @ 2 ohms) with a neutral tone and it eats pedals really well. Also indestructible, so good for a shared amp. Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Jan 29, 2018 |
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Those are all killer used gear recommendations. For new gear, the best bang for buck is generally found in the Fender Rumble lineup. They are a lot better than the prior versions (I had a v1 and it was hot garbage) and they are light as hell. Your dollar will go farther with used gear for sure.
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A while ago I tried an SWR Redhead amp at Steve's Music in Toronto and it was so slick. I guess they're not making them anymore but if I was in the market for a combo amp, I'd probably try to hunt one down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFWqU_3YgaQ
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Is craigslist or talkbass the places to look for uaed gear?
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Shageletic posted:Is craigslist or talkbass the places to look for uaed gear? Probably CL if you're looking for affordable combos, though you can also search Talkbass for local sales. I did buy an Avatar 2x12 off some guy at TB for like $200 a while back. I think he sent it via a UPS account through his job, but he can't have made very much after shipping.
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Shageletic posted:Is craigslist or talkbass the places to look for uaed gear? If your priority is budget, craigslist. If you're looking for something specific, talkbass or Reverb.
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Facebook marketplace is also excellent if you live near a metro area. Higher chance of meeting a real person imo
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Dyna Soar posted:Old Peaveys, from the 70's to the 90's. Old late 70's Mark III's are loving awesome but have a pretty distict sound, works well in punk & metal but probably not if you wanna play at somewhat lower levels. A firebass / Peavey Max (same head, different name) is a very powerful head (475 watts @ 8 omhs, 700 watts @ 2 ohms) with a neutral tone and it eats pedals really well. Also indestructible, so good for a shared amp. This looks too good to be true: https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/msg/d/peavey-basic-40-bass-amp/6472069539.html something that cheap can't be that good right? I realize its only 40 watts but i'm gonna be using it in a small room anyway...
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Shageletic posted:This looks too good to be true: https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/msg/d/peavey-basic-40-bass-amp/6472069539.html Well, that's not too hard to believe, really. It's an 80s Peavey, which means it's a fairly basic (hence the model name) solid state amp. There's nothing exciting about this amp--it was made to amplify the sounds from your bass guitar in a nice, clean way. Back then, bass amps pretty much never came with overdrive, distortion, or any other effects other than maybe a 2- or 3-band EQ. And there are no AUX inputs, no tuners, no footswitch jack (no need for one)... this was, and is, an extremely basic bass amp. In its day, it was probably one of the least expensive 40 watt bass amps you could buy. Of course, back then, even the least expensive 40 watt amp costs more than you'd expect to pay today. It's made in the USA, but Peavey always managed to have USA-made stuff that didn't carry the huge premium you'd expect in USA-made products from, say, Fender or Gibson. If you need something to amplify your bass signal and nothing else, you could probably do worse than get this amp. Try it out first, of course.
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Shageletic posted:This looks too good to be true: https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/msg/d/peavey-basic-40-bass-amp/6472069539.html They have one of these at an open mic night I play occasionally, I was pretty pleased with how it sounded. Nice and clean, no fancy frills and plenty loud enough for a small room.
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tarlibone posted:Well, that's not too hard to believe, really. It's an 80s Peavey, which means it's a fairly basic (hence the model name) solid state amp. There's nothing exciting about this amp--it was made to amplify the sounds from your bass guitar in a nice, clean way. Back then, bass amps pretty much never came with overdrive, distortion, or any other effects other than maybe a 2- or 3-band EQ. And there are no AUX inputs, no tuners, no footswitch jack (no need for one)... this was, and is, an extremely basic bass amp. In its day, it was probably one of the least expensive 40 watt bass amps you could buy. Of course. Thanks everyone who helped me out!
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Suddenly there are three Bergantinos on my local craigslist. I'm sorely tempted by the HT112/EX112 stack, and there's also a HT210 for super cheap. I wish I could play some of the NV cabs. I've loved the sound of those every time I've seen a band using them.
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Looking for some suggestions on new songs to learn. Something in the vein of When a Blind Man Cries by Deep Purple.
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If you haven't worked through most of the Motown catalog that should be square one for any bassist. Not even kidding, learning those licks and analyzing the lines and how they fit in the song will make your playing better in every genre. The lineage makes perfect sense for your taste as well; Roger Glover's biggest influence was Paul McCartney and McCartney's was Motown's James Jameson.
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"I Want You Back" is one that I think every bass player should learn. That and "What's Going On."
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Agreed 100%. Get Standing In The Shadows Of Motown if you want charts. All of modern bass playing stems from Motown in some shape or form.
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