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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Checking out the LVO stuff, that really sucks about the behavior at the top table. Personally I don't remember much about 40K tournament play from before 6th but one thing I do recall was that Alex Fennel is a loving gentleman. That's like the worst possible person to do that to. I've not really played attention to this season, but I've found that basically all of the top level 40k players are great people, the problems are the few people in the 2nd and 3rd brackets that are bitter about not being good enough. They're noisy enough to taint competitive 40k for the casual fans. From this, I'd guess Tony is one of those 2nd tier people who lucked into a top spot.
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Zuul the Cat posted:Here's the clip of him being a dick: lol at Tony being like "are you sure?" when Alex is like "well, OK I'll play" because he's fishing for a full concession. I'm actually surprised he didn't press him on that too and claim the handshake made the concession final what a piece of poo poo
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mango sentinel posted:Someone at the Ham Factory just had a hardon for red topknots. Abbadon, Khan, Custodes, Sisters of Silence, Callidus Assassins, 60% of Dark Eldar, probably some more I'm forgetting. Archaon from Fantasy suddenly got a topknot when they redid his model for Age of Sigmar.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Archaon from Fantasy suddenly got a topknot when they redid his model for Age of Sigmar. It's kind of like your hair standing up in DBZ when you reach a new power level.
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TheChirurgeon posted:lol at Tony being like "are you sure?" when Alex is like "well, OK I'll play" because he's fishing for a full concession. I'm actually surprised he didn't press him on that too and claim the handshake made the concession final That dude just developed a worldwide reputation as an absolute dickhead. Other content: tweaked my Eldar list. Advice/Critique? +++ New Roster (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [101 PL, 1999pts] +++ ++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) ++ + Flyer + Crimson Hunter Exarch: Two Bright Lances Hemlock Wraithfighter: 2. Embolden/Horrify, Spirit Stones + No Force Org Slot + Craftworld Attribute: Alaitoc: Fieldcraft + Heavy Support + Fire Prism: Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones + HQ + Farseer Skyrunner: 2. Doom, 3. Fortune, Shuriken Pistol, Twin Shuriken Catapult, Witchblade Farseer Skyrunner: 2. Doom, 3. Fortune, Shuriken Pistol, Twin Shuriken Catapult, Witchblade + Fast Attack + Swooping Hawks . 9x Swooping Hawk: 9x Lasblaster . Swooping Hawk Exarch: Lasblaster, Power sword Windriders . 3x Windrider - Shuriken Cannon: 3x Shuriken Cannon Windriders . 3x Windrider - Shuriken Cannon: 3x Shuriken Cannon Windriders . 3x Windrider - Shuriken Cannon: 3x Shuriken Cannon Windriders . 3x Windrider - Shuriken Cannon: 3x Shuriken Cannon ++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) ++ + No Force Org Slot + Craftworld Attribute: Alaitoc: Fieldcraft + HQ + Autarch Skyrunner: 5: Mark of the Incomparable Hunter, Fusion Gun, Shimmerplume of Achillrial, Twin Shuriken Catapult, Warlord Autarch Skyrunner: Fusion Gun, Twin Shuriken Catapult Farseer: 4. Executioner, 6. Mind War, Shuriken Pistol, Witchblade Warlock Skyrunner: 5. Quicken/Restrain, Shuriken Pistol, Twin Shuriken Catapult, Witchblade Warlock Skyrunner: 5. Quicken/Restrain, Shuriken Pistol, Twin Shuriken Catapult, Witchblade + Elites + Wraithguard: D-scythe, 5x Wraithguard Created with BattleScribe
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MasterSlowPoke posted:I've not really played attention to this season, but I've found that basically all of the top level 40k players are great people, the problems are the few people in the 2nd and 3rd brackets that are bitter about not being good enough. They're noisy enough to taint competitive 40k for the casual fans. From this, I'd guess Tony is one of those 2nd tier people who lucked into a top spot. Yeah. There's one guy in the UK who has a rep for cheating, but most of the best players are perfectly good dudes, it's the also-rans who can tend to be dicks.
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Is it currently worth magnetizing an entire wraithguard kit? Are all of the options viable or is it just best to go wtih d-scythes?
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I hate magnetizing arms with a passion. I'd build them how you want, then counts-as for friendly games and small tournaments with a culture that allows that. Most people can't identify a D cannon or D scythe anyway.
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Jan 29, 2018 22:28
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Partial Octopus posted:What about for the melee weapons? I'd magnetize for drastically different looking weapons. Like I have no intention of magnetizing my hellblasters because all the plasma incinerators look the same (and its really hard to do with the DI models), but my Reivers I went through the hassle of doing because someday I might want Knives...maybe? Also, from what I understand Tony is a consistently top player, despite him being an rear end.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:I hate magnetizing arms with a passion. I'd build them how you want, then counts-as for friendly games and small tournaments with a culture that allows that. Most people can't identify a D cannon or D scythe anyway. How's magnetizing hands vs arms?
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Slightly better for big wraith arms, but even then I'm not a fan. Storing those extra guns always gives me an issue.
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StuG Jeebus posted:Do we know if the Custodes are Primaris size or more like the older dudes? Based on comparison photos from when the Primarii first came out they're more-or-less the same size.   http://betweenthebolterandme.blogspot.com/2017/06/primaris-space-marines-first-impressions.html
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MasterSlowPoke posted:I know they gotta churn these books out fast in the first year but yeesh, that art. I think all the 8th edition codex books have re-used cover art from the 7th edition books as a time saver. The Custodes art comes from the mini codex in the Talons of the Emperor box, which itself was probably [probably done on the cheap with no intention of being a full book cover. They really should have replaced it because that picture is not as good as some of the stuff inside the codex.
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I'm fine with reused cover art, but that custodes color plate Schadenboner posted is an awful coloring job. Looks like something slightly better than I would have done in high school.
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Oh yeah, that's just shite. The plates are a lot worse than the ones in the DA book. They look like a hold over from the pre-Gathering Storm era low effort rubbish. Which they may well be.
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Zuul the Cat posted:Eldar List My thoughts are: - Hemlock: give it Jinx instead of Horrify. While the -1 LD adds to the -2 LD, it's not going to be that significant of a difference. Meanwhile, your STR 12, autohit D-Scythes are likely going to be targeting things with an invulnerable save and Jinx affects that as well. - Skyrunner Autarchs: Give them a laser lance and banshee mask (index list) as well - they can fire it in addition to the fusion guns and gives them teeth on the charge. A Skyrunner Autarch with a Fusion Gun, Laser Lance, and Mark of hte Incomparable Hunter can kill just about any character - especially if the Hemlock gets a Jinx off on it.
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I watched the last 2 LVO games live, when Tony pulled that poo poo against Alex I had to get up and walk away from the TV. Probably the shittiest sportsmanship I’ve seen at a high level tourney. But man, when Tony got hosed by exactly the same pedantry in the final game, I don’t think I’ve ever felt so consumed by schadenfruede. Nick literally said to Tony ‘well, it’s exactly what you did to Alex last game, so’ gently caress Tony.
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Boon posted:My thoughts are: I can definitely do that. That's a really good idea for the Hemlock. I was thinking of doing that, but i dunno about using index entries for my list. i don't actually have the index, and is that allowed in tournaments? i want to actually try competing with this list (even though it will lose).
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Yeast posted:I watched the last 2 LVO games live, when Tony pulled that poo poo against Alex I had to get up and walk away from the TV. Probably the shittiest sportsmanship I’ve seen at a high level tourney. Tony was right, and should’ve won.
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panascope posted:Tony was right, and should’ve won. Nah
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Tony also never got past 2 in the entire event. He slow plays and the only reason he played faster in the final game is because of the judge standing there. He is a piece of poo poo. I'm also a piece of poo poo nobody who went 1-2-1 And dropped because I didn't have any skin in the event to hang out with all my friends in Vegas. It was a much more enjoyable time. My last game was against 300 orks and spoiler we didn't get past turn 2.
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panascope posted:Tony was right, and should’ve won. He was categorically wrong and completely at the mercy of his opponent to throw him a bone.
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Naramyth posted:Tony also never got past 2 in the entire event. He slow plays and the only reason he played faster in the final game is because of the judge standing there. Oh god, one of our local guys was playing nids/cult/guard and had to help him deploy when they played.
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Naramyth posted:Tony also never got past 2 in the entire event. He slow plays and the only reason he played faster in the final game is because of the judge standing there. Lmao
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Hencoe posted:Oh god, one of our local guys was playing nids/cult/guard and had to help him deploy when they played. Why on earth would you not magnetise everything to movement trays if you were using that many models?
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Why on earth would you not magnetise everything to movement trays if you were using that many models? Dude plays to win #tonyshouldofwon
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panascope posted:Dude plays to win #tonyshouldofwon
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Naramyth posted:Tony also never got past 2 in the entire event. He slow plays and the only reason he played faster in the final game is because of the judge standing there. Is slow playing a strategy of some sort? I've only done beerhammer type games with friends, or people who weren't at all competitive- does it provide some sort of advantage to the slower-playing person other than driving their opponent nuts?
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If you are going to win by holding points, and you can get there, but not allow you opponent enough time to kill your guys ... yes it's a good strategy.
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Immanentized posted:Is slow playing a strategy of some sort? I've only done beerhammer type games with friends, or people who weren't at all competitive- does it provide some sort of advantage to the slower-playing person other than driving their opponent nuts? Most tournaments will have organizers who are either wise to it and will warn players or will be willing to warn/cut short players who slow play. It's thankfully not as bad as Warmachine was with chess timers (most of the time), but there are some who play to the clock knowing they can't win and draw it out instead for more points. Those people should be shot into the sun. If you're ever in a tournament when that occurs, call discuss it with them first as a friendly warning and if they continue call over a TO. That poo poo should not fly. From a game perspective most tournaments play for points, where tablings and absolute awful games go very low, whereas middling games and draws pull low-to-mid points. So if they get a bad match (their own fault), they drag it out to try and force a tie and scrape a draw/minor loss instead of a complete loss. Edit: dexefiend posted:If you are going to win by holding points, and you can get there, but not allow you opponent enough time to kill your guys ... yes it's a good strategy. PierreTheMime fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Jan 30, 2018 |
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Slow playing can be very advantageous if you build a list/play specifically to win on turn 2-3 versus most people who build lists/play to win on turn 5, 6 or 7. He has control over when the game will end, in a way. Also panascope is just being devil's advocate. If he felt Tony should have won the game he exploited lovely rulings (including being deceptive and acting 100% against how he promised) then he would be championing Nick for doing it back to him, and he would be saying Nick should have won. I don't think he is being a piece of poo poo who wants a scummy player to win who did not even practice what he preached, just because he likes evil. We all know nurglings are not that way. 
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There used to be at least a bit of an excuse with templates in play. Clustering models meant you could lose a ton. As someone who plays hordes all the time, especially in an edition where clustering models makes no difference, if you slow play competitively you're doing it intentionally. In a friendly game take all the time in the world, within reason.
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So I have a bunch of Unassembled Primaris I don't know what to do with left over after putting together my Death Guard and have exhausted all local channels for getting rid of the drat things (not that there were many). I figured i'd check in here and see if anyone would be willing to do a 1 to 1 swap of my Primaris half of Dark Imperium with the Death Guard half.
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AnEdgelord posted:So I have a bunch of Unassembled Primaris I don't know what to do with left over after putting together my Death Guard and have exhausted all local channels for getting rid of the drat things (not that there were many). The set sells fairly well on eBay. Or you can sell them off piecemeal.
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AnEdgelord posted:So I have a bunch of Unassembled Primaris I don't know what to do with left over after putting together my Death Guard and have exhausted all local channels for getting rid of the drat things (not that there were many). drat, if only you'd posted this a few weeks ago. Oh well, I'm sure there's someone out there.
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Zuul the Cat posted:I can definitely do that. That's a really good idea for the Hemlock. I was thinking of doing that, but i dunno about using index entries for my list. i don't actually have the index, and is that allowed in tournaments? i want to actually try competing with this list (even though it will lose). Yeah, jinx is great on hemlocks. Index wargear is allowed, yes. There's an official flowchart explaining it. The only reason that stuff isn't in the codex is because GW hates us and makes a single plastic Autarch with zero weapon options. All the index weapon options pretty much require you to have leftover bits from aspect warriors.
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Schadenboner posted:Can anyone recomend me a good FLGS in the Madison, WI area? Misty Mountain is a little grognardy but not awful. Pegasus is weird, dont go, and I am Bored is really nice and super friendly, but not a garunteed playgroup.
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