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So kind of last minute, but my raid group is looking for one person on the Aether datacenter for sigmascape prog! Tank preferred, but we can be flexible with party roles. Just looking for somebody fun and chill to run endgame content with who's at least moderately good at what they do. Current raid times are Thursday/Sunday/Monday from 7-10PM EST.
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I kinda hope Lone Wolf the Pickpocket shows up in the new Hildibrand stories. They already have the werewolf Beast Tribe.
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Jan 30, 2018 02:02
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I kinda hope Lone Wolf the Pickpocket shows up in the new Hildibrand stories. They already have the werewolf Beast Tribe. At what point are the wolf dudes a beast tribe and miqote not?
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Jan 30, 2018 02:04
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KoB posted:At what point are the wolf dudes a beast tribe and miqote not? Snouts e: Though it's unclear whether the wolfmen are a beast tribe in the first place, they seem pretty integrated into Doman society, don't have their own separate enclaves or anything.
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Jan 30, 2018 02:31
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楽しみにしてください   hello? Is this YoshiP? I would like to log in and play final fantasy XIV online
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Jan 30, 2018 02:34
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Mister Olympus posted:Snouts In general, the Ruby Sea, Resistance, and Doma seem to treat their local beast tribes with more respect than Ishgard and Eorzea.
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Jan 30, 2018 02:44
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The definition of beast tribe seems to be "species that we are racist against"
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Jan 30, 2018 02:45
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TFRazorsaw posted:In general, the Ruby Sea, Resistance, and Doma seem to treat their local beast tribes with more respect than Ishgard and Eorzea. Even in Eorzea you have Mamool Ja, Goblins, and Qiqirn hanging around in Limsa. The Sylphs of Little Solace and Gridania are on good terms. It really just seems to be "Do you summon primals? Then get out," in the west. Lyse's gambit with the Qaylana was an attempt to circumvent the problems the other city-states have to deal with, by offering them a seat at the table of a budding Republic, rather than pushing them away. For a time, the Vanu Vanu and Ishgard were on good terms. Camp Cloudtop was, and becomes once again after you liberate the Gundu and Zundu, a trading outpost between the two. Tailfeather and the Non-mind Vath start with a mutual avoidance of eachother that evolves in to a trade relationship, and Deftarm opens up co-operative work with Convictory Knights. Novv's Clutch, 789th Order, Brotherhood of Ash, and Ehcatl Nine are really the only ones that don't mingle with the other races besides the WoL and the intermediary NPCs, and with good reason since they are a huge minority, considered outsiders even among their tribes. Aside from Gi Gu and his boys. They're just lazy as hell. Skaw fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Jan 30, 2018 |
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Jan 30, 2018 03:16
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Don't forget the Moogles that purportedly live in the Shroud that we never see.
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Jan 30, 2018 03:27
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TFRazorsaw posted:In general, the Ruby Sea, Resistance, and Doma seem to treat their local beast tribes with more respect than Ishgard and Eorzea.
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Jan 30, 2018 03:28
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Don't forget the Moogles that purportedly live in the Shroud that we never see. Uhh, we do things with them often and have since ARR. The shroud moogles didn't play a role in stormblood but they were involved in ARR and HW. They even summon a primal that we have to deal with.
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Jan 30, 2018 03:31
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hobbesmaster posted:Water can be a new class. The idea seems to be that BLM gets half the elements (Fire/Ice/Thunder) and WHM gets the other half (Earth/Wind/Water), with the healing spells representing water. The other jobs incorporate elements to some degree - MNK gets Fire/Earth/Wind, MCH uses Thunder, while others just use pure aetheric energy like PLD.
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Jan 30, 2018 03:49
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I mean, there are definitely some Beastmen that get accepted in Eorzea, but there's also this undercurrent of distrust or wariness? Even Y'shtola, who is the first to point out that Limsa Lominsa has equal responsibility when it comes to the quarrels with the Sahagin and Kobolds, wasn't really sure how she felt about goblins taking up residence in her old home until they proved themselves.
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Jan 30, 2018 03:57
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TFRazorsaw posted:I mean, there are definitely some Beastmen that get accepted in Eorzea, but there's also this undercurrent of distrust or wariness? Even Y'shtola, who is the first to point out that Limsa Lominsa has equal responsibility when it comes to the quarrels with the Sahagin and Kobolds, wasn't really sure how she felt about goblins taking up residence in her old home until they proved themselves. Beastfolk in Eorzea have an unfortunate habit of summoning the gently caress out of primals, which in turn makes people distrust them, which in turn makes them summon more primals for self-defense. That's discounting the usual 'both sides are assholes' part.
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Jan 30, 2018 04:18
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Well, that's literally the case in Limsa, at least. I'm not as familiar with the beastmen politics in Ul'dah due to not starting there.
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Jan 30, 2018 04:26
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TFRazorsaw posted:Well, that's literally the case in Limsa, at least. I'm not as familiar with the beastmen politics in Ul'dah due to not starting there. The Amal'jaa have always had a culture that prided itself on martial strength but after the fall of Ala Mhigo, Ul'dah kicked out its beastmen population in an attempt to prematurely appease the Garleans. Good job Ul'dah.
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Jan 30, 2018 04:36
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The primal summoning issue is only 10ish years old. It wasn't really happening until the Garleans invaded and hosed up silvertear lake.
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Jan 30, 2018 04:54
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:The primal summoning issue is only 10ish years old. It wasn't really happening until the Garleans invaded and hosed up silvertear lake. So what made it become an issue? Is there a place I can read up on this sort of lore? Did I just miss some point where it was explained in the MSQ?
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Jan 30, 2018 05:13
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Rosalind posted:So what made it become an issue? Is there a place I can read up on this sort of lore? Did I just miss some point where it was explained in the MSQ? when silvertear lake had the giant airship + middy crash into it it unleashed a serious amount of ether into the realm, so it became piss easy to summon primals.
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Jan 30, 2018 05:17
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Rosalind posted:So what made it become an issue? Is there a place I can read up on this sort of lore? Did I just miss some point where it was explained in the MSQ? Silvertear lake was basically a sealed well of aether. When it popped, it spread so much of it around that primal summoning became feasible for smaller groups. Primal summoning happened a lot historically, but it took a nation's worth of effort to do so. This might be Eorzea specific. The other lands haven't really been addressed, but primals still seem fairly rare in places we've seen.
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Jan 30, 2018 05:18
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Silvertear lake was basically a sealed well of aether. When it popped, it spread so much of it around that primal summoning became feasible for smaller groups. Primal summoning happened a lot historically, but it took a nation's worth of effort to do so.
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Jan 30, 2018 05:29
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Yeah, the reason Silvertear Lake had so much aether in the first place is that Eorzea is at the crossroads of magical leylines or something like that, which is why all these great magical empires throughout history have been based there. The Battle of Silvertear Skies just freed up that magic making it easier to access. Similar kind of thing conceptually to what happened in the Bahamut/Louisoix fight with all the ambient aether released there.
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Jan 30, 2018 05:34
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Mr. Nice! posted:Uhh, we do things with them often and have since ARR. The shroud moogles didn't play a role in stormblood but they were involved in ARR and HW. They even summon a primal that we have to deal with. I meant more that they're in the Shroud, but we never see where they live. Gally posted:when silvertear lake had the giant airship + middy crash into it it unleashed a serious amount of ether into the realm, so it became piss easy to summon primals. Oh Middy. I guess that's why he's on speaking terms with Hydaelyn? Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Jan 30, 2018 |
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Jan 30, 2018 06:00
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Well he is also an alien from space.
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Jan 30, 2018 06:05
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Yeah. It's easy to gloss over, but that cool early game CGI of Middy vs Airship action is basically the point where all hell broke lose in Eorzea because the seal under the lake broke as a result of that fight. Gaius didn't just retreat for ten years because he lost his biggest ship (though that was part of it). It was mainly because gods that can permanently enthrall humans just by looking at them started popping up all over the place and the Garleans were freaking the hell out about this.
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Jan 30, 2018 06:07
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Thundarr posted:Yeah. It's easy to gloss over, but that cool early game CGI of Middy vs Airship action is basically the point where all hell broke lose in Eorzea because the seal under the lake broke as a result of that fight. Gaius didn't just retreat for ten years because he lost his biggest ship (though that was part of it). It was mainly because gods that can permanently enthrall humans just by looking at them started popping up all over the place and the Garleans were freaking the hell out about this.
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Jan 30, 2018 06:11
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Nessus posted:You'd think the Garleans would be relatively able to fight Primals Well, there was Shiva. 
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Jan 30, 2018 06:28
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Oh Middy. I guess that's why he's on speaking terms with Hydaelyn? According to the lorebook, the races of man say that Midgardsormr was created along with water by Althyk and Nimeia. The dragons say that Midgardsormr came to Hydaelyn 'before time' with seven eggs (because dragons reproduce asexually). Either way he's definitely incredibly old, especially since he's the first dragon ever. vOv fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Jan 30, 2018 |
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Jan 30, 2018 06:29
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Nessus posted:You'd think the Garleans would be relatively able to fight Primals, though I suppose the real rear end-fuckers like Shinryu would be too strong. But they have all their robutts and mammets and so on. You can keep actual live people well away from the battlefield, or just providing support in armor. Living troops still form the bulk of their armies. It'd be a logistical nightmare to try and constantly fight off new Primals when their manufacturing capabilities simply aren't up to the task. It's why such a high emphasis is placed on Ultima Weapon by Gaius: it's a way of defeating Primals without having to sacrifice huge numbers of troops or machines.
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Jan 30, 2018 06:39
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Nessus posted:You'd think the Garleans would be relatively able to fight Primals, though I suppose the real rear end-fuckers like Shinryu would be too strong. But they have all their robutts and mammets and so on. You can keep actual live people well away from the battlefield, or just providing support in armor. Garlean Magitek is piloted and there's not really any indication that being in Magitek saves you from tempering. They do have some non-piloted stuff but it doesn't seem to be their biggest hitters and Primals are pretty loving big deals.
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Jan 30, 2018 06:44
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Thundarr posted:Yeah. It's easy to gloss over, but that cool early game CGI of Middy vs Airship action is basically the point where all hell broke lose in Eorzea because the seal under the lake broke as a result of that fight. Gaius didn't just retreat for ten years because he lost his biggest ship (though that was part of it). It was mainly because gods that can permanently enthrall humans just by looking at them started popping up all over the place and the Garleans were freaking the hell out about this. What I don’t understand about that CGI is why the WoL is there.
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Jan 30, 2018 06:47
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TFRazorsaw posted:What I don’t understand about that CGI is why the WoL is there.
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Jan 30, 2018 06:49
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vOv posted:According to the lorebook, the races of man say that Midgardsormr was created along with water by Althyk and Nimeia. The dragons say that Midgardsormr came to Hydaelyn 'before time' with seven eggs (because dragons reproduce asexually). Either way he's definitely incredibly old, especially since he's the first dragon ever. Well, that explains some things. Vermain posted:Living troops still form the bulk of their armies. It'd be a logistical nightmare to try and constantly fight off new Primals when their manufacturing capabilities simply aren't up to the task. It's why such a high emphasis is placed on Ultima Weapon by Gaius: it's a way of defeating Primals without having to sacrifice huge numbers of troops or machines. Also, as an Azys Lla quest mentions, Garlean Magitek is just a bootleg version of Allagan tech. Despite how impressive it looks, it's probably not nearly as good performance-wise.
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Jan 30, 2018 06:57
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homeless snail posted:The Echo Ohhhhhh.
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Jan 30, 2018 07:05
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TFRazorsaw posted:Ohhhhhh. Let's be honest, The Echo is basically FFXIV's Coriolis Effect. It does everything from let you see the past, to understand all languages, to seeing danger patches on the ground, to providing you with quantum immortality.
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Jan 30, 2018 07:09
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The whole "the Echo is what lets you see AoE markers" is just a widespread fan theory that has no lore basis (even though it'd make sense).
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Jan 30, 2018 07:12
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TFRazorsaw posted:Ohhhhhh. Keep in mind that this was before they had a solid idea of what they wanted the Echo to be, hence why the WoL gets to help out with the morbol fight.
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Jan 30, 2018 07:13
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By that logic, would that make EX and Savage fights What Ifs where the WoL still hasn't gotten the Blessing of Light back?
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Jan 30, 2018 07:15
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Also they portray it pretty differently now, in 1.0 usually you physically embodied the time and place you were flashing back to. The 1.0 story flipped back and forth a lot between two time periods and didn't really bother to bring it to the player's attention until they finally say "oh yeah your friends Ascilia and Minfilia are the same person just 5 years apart", so the 1.0 cinematic makes a lot more sense in that context
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:By that logic, would that make EX and Savage fights What Ifs where the WoL still hasn't gotten the Blessing of Light back? Extreme and Savage fights are generally given the explanation of being either more powerful versions of the Primals that you fought, or a fanciful "what if" scenario invented by the Wandering Minstrel or similar NPCs.
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