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zoux posted:What sparked this question in my mind was if it was worse to be shot with a bullet or an arrow Your own dick.
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Nenonen posted:Your own dick. Small caliber ammunition...
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Most varieties of poisoned arrow would be pretty unpleasant I bet
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Jan 30, 2018 19:11
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I'm sure being shot by a bullet is worse in most ways, but from a psychological standpoint I bet seeing an arrow sticking out your body is more shocking and terrifying in the moment
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Clearly getting shot with a sword would be the worst outcome.
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Jan 30, 2018 19:32
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If a dud round from a mortar or something falls and hits you at a precise velocity and ends up lodging itself into your body, does that count as getting shot? Because that would be bad
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Jan 30, 2018 19:36
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A canister/beehive round.
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zoux posted:In the vast history of warfare, what's the worst thing to be shot with A tank destroyer
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I'm sure being shot by a bullet is worse in most ways, but from a psychological standpoint I bet seeing an arrow sticking out your body is more shocking and terrifying in the moment I feel this way. I know realistically a bullet is worse but there is a visceral mental reaction I get imagining taking an arrow. It’s like getting blood work done- I’ve got enough pain tolerance that it doesn’t bother me but I still don’t like to see the needle sticking out of my vein. That feeling x1000 Also if you’re on foot, a tank destroyer seems like one of the better things to take fire from. In a foxhole I’d take my chances with one of those bad boys over mortars, tanks, MGs, flamethrowers, just about anything.
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zoux posted:In the vast history of warfare, what's the worst thing to be shot with A QF VT artillery shell?
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Fangz posted:A tank destroyer A bullet but that bullet was delivered to the front by a bear
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:A bullet but that bullet was delivered to the front by a bear An ammo delivering bear? Preposterous!
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Also if you’re on foot, a tank destroyer seems like one of the better things to take fire from. In a foxhole I’d take my chances with one of those bad boys over mortars, tanks, MGs, flamethrowers, just about anything. Yeah but it'd be wrong
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Jan 30, 2018 20:03
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Cyrano4747 posted:In my day to day, button down shirt and well polished shoes, tie optional. Disturbing lack of slashed silk here, frankly.
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Clarence posted:Disturbing lack of slashed silk here, frankly. not enough bright colors and breaking of sumptuary laws
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Gonna go with a fatal hit from white phospherous or a flamethrower. You'll die too slow.
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How do you get shot by WP?
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:If a dud round from a mortar or something falls and hits you at a precise velocity and ends up lodging itself into your body, does that count as getting shot? Because that would be bad SeanBeansShako posted:How do you feel about shattered bones?
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zoux posted:How do you get shot by WP? Like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kHB-yo_gXE&t=82s
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Cessna posted:Glory or renown aren't political ends?
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zoux posted:Hell, I'm against them. Cyrano4747 posted:Almost certainly a bullet. Deeper penetration, more soft tissue damage, far more damage to bone, more likely to perforate multiple important things...  The arrow also plugs its own hole, much like a knife HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jan 30, 2018 |
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One of those ancient Germanic throwing axes seem like they could be pretty bad.
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I feel like it's only worth arguing about nonfatal injuries, otherwise you just get into the weird and creepy argument about what the best way to die is. Bullets are harder to remove than arrows, but it's more viable to just leave the bullet in compared to just leaving an arrow shaft sticking out of your body. Hell, with the right conditions the bullet may just speed right through you, which leaves a bigger wound to deal with, but if you start out assuming enough survivability to complain about it, then it's fine.
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ArchangeI posted:A conflict between a well-defined group against another well-defined group to achieve a defined and measurable goal through the use of physical violence on both sides over a prolonged period of time. congratulations, you just proved that the HRE is incapable of going to war
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:If a dud round from a mortar or something falls and hits you at a precise velocity and ends up lodging itself into your body, does that count as getting shot? Because that would be bad I've seen photos of someone who had this happen to him on the Finnish front in WW2 and he lived. Russian 50 mm mortar round, to be precise.
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HEY GUNS posted:congratulations, you just proved that the HRE is incapable of going to war Well, I mean...
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Now the warriors of Sparta, that was a well-defined army
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Ainsley McTree posted:Now the warriors of Sparta, that was a well-defined army
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That well known Lacedaemonian battle cry: Do you even lift?
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SlothfulCobra posted:I feel like it's only worth arguing about nonfatal injuries, otherwise you just get into the weird and creepy argument about what the best way to die is. Survivability has to come into it, and with bullet wounds the fact that it is carried all the way into your body is a big, BIG problem. Before the widespread advent of antibiotics you see a lot of people dying from clothing and other poo poo carried into the wound by the bullet and deposited deep inside their abdomen or a limb. A scrap of wool lodged inside your torso is going to cause a nasty, almost invariably fatal infection. Arrows and bullets also have entirely different reactions on the bones that they hit. Bones that get hit by bullets are awful injuries that without modern medicine are going to lead to amputations in the best case. Amputations weren't the preferred method for "fixing" wounded arms and legs in the black powder era because of infection, it was because it was the only way they had to treat the wound. Amputation turned the horrifically complex injury of a completely shattered long bone (as in, your lower leg is basically just a bunch of bone shards in a meat sock) and turned it into a relatively much simpler injury that could be treated - namely the amputated stump.
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The official ranking of things not to be killed by in war is nerve gas, nuclear weapons, arrows, a guy with a shovel, and finally bullets as the least worst.
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zoux posted:How do you get shot by WP? Be a student in a UN run school in Gaza.
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HEY GUNS posted:congratulations, you just proved that the HRE is incapable of going to war How many wars involved the HRE that did not also involve part of the HRE fighting another part of the HRE? Genuinely curious.
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dublish posted:How many wars involved the HRE that did not also involve part of the HRE fighting another part of the HRE? Genuinely curious. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna was kinda a big deal
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Comrade Gorbash posted:That well known Lacedaemonian battle cry: Do you even lift? So that's what the paean sounded like.
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Stairmaster posted:The official ranking of things not to be killed by in war is nerve gas, nuclear weapons, arrows, a guy with a shovel, and finally bullets as the least worst. I dunno, very high up on that list for me is getting killed by steam. When reading books about naval conflicts in the 20th century, the parts that always horrify me the most are the descriptions of men killed and injured by rupturing boilers and steam pipes. Not a good way to go.
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Getting killed by nukes would be fine. It's not like you're gonna feel a thing. Now surviving a nuke that's when things get bad.
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Cythereal posted:I dunno, very high up on that list for me is getting killed by steam. When reading books about naval conflicts in the 20th century, the parts that always horrify me the most are the descriptions of men killed and injured by rupturing boilers and steam pipes. Not a good way to go. It's always been rough for navy guys, splinters in the age of sail and in the 20th century your battleship can easily become a massive steel coffin for you in a matter of minutes depending on the decks between you and the exit.
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SeanBeansShako posted:It's always been rough for navy guys, splinters in the age of sail and in the 20th century your battleship can easily become a massive steel coffin for you in a matter of minutes depending on the decks between you and the exit. No lie, I have a great personal fear of drowning. When I go, I hope it's ultimately like the poor sailors on that Argentinian sub - dead faster than their brains would have been able to process what was happening.
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I’ve kind of got the opposite fear. A while back I read a paper where some neurologists were looking at basically the final shutdown process for the brain. There’s a whole slew of chemicals and poo poo that basically work to help you process your body shutting off, and they think that process might be behind a lot of the odd near death mystical experiences people have reported. I’d much rather get that final full experience than the immediate lights out that catastrophic brain trauma would lead to.
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