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flakeloaf posted:What gets me is the amount of genuine shock and dismay at all of the people making racist comments about this story. Are they only interviewing tourists, or something? Who sees a story about an Indigenous person in 2018 and doesn't immediately react with "oh, this should lead to some thoughtful and nuanced discussion"? They said they sent out 700 invitations and 200 showed up, 15% of Sask is aboriginal so 105 invited, 30 showed up if it's even. Defense only had 14 challenges so 14 or less were in the 200 or not all indigenous people look native.
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Jan 30, 2018 15:21
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PT6A posted:Rodney King did run from the cops, u guys... Travyon Martin was wearing a hoodie and eating skittles in the wrong neighborhood, you know.
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Jan 30, 2018 15:24
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That post wasn't directed specifically at you PT6A but at the thread in general I should have spelled it out better but I was trying to finish my post in time to catch the bus. But it still needed to be said to hopefully head off the 4 page "kill all whites/rurals/farmers/anyone but woke urbanite STEMlords" circle jerk that happens every single loving time something like this is posted. And no robbery in itself should not be a capital offense. I never once said that.
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Jan 30, 2018 15:24
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PT6A posted:If you want to get really pissed off, read about how the RCMP treated Boushie's family when they went to break the news he was killed. It's okay they cleared themselves of wrongdoing https://globalnews.ca/news/3843411/colten-boushie-family-rcmp-clearing-themselves-of-wrongdoing-saskatchewan/
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Jan 30, 2018 15:25
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EvilJoven you're a stupid poo poo. Quelle bonne surprise. I guess if they weren't robbers they wouldn't have gotten shot?!!? I guess if you don't commit crime bad things don't happen to you???? I guess if you aren't raised in a lovely household you wouldn't resort to such things?????? Aaaaaaaaaah my loving head.
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Jan 30, 2018 15:44
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Jan 30, 2018 15:48
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EvilJoven posted:And no robbery in itself should not be a capital offense. I never once said that. Then why does it in any way matter whether they may have previously committed a robbery or been engaged in one when he was shot? Either something about that is a mitigating factor in the shooting, or it's not.
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Jan 30, 2018 15:54
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infernal machines posted:Then why does it in any way matter whether they may have previously committed a robbery or been engaged in one when he was shot? To be 100% fair to him, and utterly pedantic, he didn't say it, he merely implied it.
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Jan 30, 2018 15:56
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This court case should/will come down to whether or not the farmer can justify that his life was in enough danger to loving shoot someone. If the guy was stealing, that's irrelevant.
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Jan 30, 2018 15:58
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Jan 30, 2018 16:11
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infernal machines posted:Then why does it in any way matter whether they may have previously committed a robbery or been engaged in one when he was shot? Maybe they use the previous robbery to paint a picture that he was currently committing a robbery which helps get the 2nd degree murder thing lessened to manslaughter? Then maybe they use the robbing thing and the fact that they'd tried to ram Stanley with their SUV to show that it'd be reasonable for Staney to think Boushie had malevolent intentions with the gun that was right beside him in the car. The kid reaches for it, Stanley shoots him. I'm not defending him, more just trying to guess what their defense is going to be. quote:After Colten's body fell out of the car, both Sheldon and Ms. Stanley say they saw the barrel of a .22 calibre bolt-action rifle lying near his body, with the stock and trigger missing.
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Jan 30, 2018 16:12
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EvilJoven posted:That post wasn't directed specifically at you PT6A but at the thread in general I should have spelled it out better but I was trying to finish my post in time to catch the bus. Kill all whites/rurals/farmers/your truck equity
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Jan 30, 2018 16:13
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Anecdotally farms can be pretty isolated and if something goes down you’re likely to be on your own. Cops will take at least a half hour to respond, it can be dark as poo poo and if you’re out by yourself working you can feel pretty vulnerable. That also doesn’t change that the shot was fired into the back of his loving head so yeah any kind of self-defense should be out the window
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If all rurals were dead that would've never happened
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Jan 30, 2018 16:26
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Maybe they use the previous robbery to paint a picture that he was currently committing a robbery which helps get the 2nd degree murder thing lessened to manslaughter? Then maybe they use the robbing thing and the fact that they'd tried to ram Stanley with their SUV to show that it'd be reasonable for Staney to think Boushie had malevolent intentions with the gun that was right beside him in the car. The kid reaches for it, Stanley shoots him. I'm not defending him, more just trying to guess what their defense is going to be. Fair enough. The whole "shot in the back of the head" thing makes that a bit more difficult I'd think. Did the police find and identify the .22?
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Jan 30, 2018 16:28
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infernal machines posted:Fair enough. The whole "shot in the back of the head" thing makes that a bit more difficult I'd think. Did the police find and identify the .22? There was no gun present and they only have Stanley’s word that the car ‘tried to ram him’ Edit: might have had my info missed up. I thought they only found the gun stock but not the gun, but it appears it might have been the opposite A Typical Goon fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Jan 30, 2018 |
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Jan 30, 2018 16:41
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infernal machines posted:Fair enough. The whole "shot in the back of the head" thing makes that a bit more difficult I'd think. Did the police find and identify the .22? Yeah. He was in the driver's seat when he got shot behind the left ear so he could have been turning to reach for the gun or awkwardly trying to point the barrel out the window or he got shot at 90 degrees but through the back of the head. quote:Const. Terry Heroux, an officer with the RCMP forensics section, alleges that, based on tire impressions in the Stanley yard, it appears the Ford Escape had driven to the barn or shop where the quad was stored, backed up and turned around and went toward the house and then hit the Stanleys' SUV.
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The stock of the rifle was found at another farm that had been burgled earlier that day. I'm surprised a thread as informed as this didn't know that the deceased or one of his party was apparently in possession of a firearm, or at least enough of one that it could still be fired.
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My sincerest apologies Here's an interesting thread https://twitter.com/CBCOlivia/status/958377160573636613 infernal machines fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Jan 30, 2018 |
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Jan 30, 2018 17:32
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https://twitter.com/battlefordsNOW/status/958376105953538049 Crown is saying they were trying to steal a quad so... aspersions.
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Jan 30, 2018 17:38
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Failed tech startup bro turned think tank guru writes reasonable and agreeable opinion on the need for a National Data strategy:Jim Balsillie posted:More than any other activity undertaken this week by Canadians, we will generate massive amounts of data from the arrays of electronic tools now enabling our lives. This data is collected by unregulated digital infrastructures that power increasing aspects of our country. Data flows have transformed how businesses do commerce and people connect globally, making data the most valuable asset in today’s economy. I assume that nothing will come of the National IP Strategy seeing as I haven't heard of it before. I haven't read the Naylor Report on basic research in Canada, which is likely also important and will probably lead to hardly any significant policy changes in the next 3 years. Having said that, it would be nice to pump more money into basic research at universities and government labs and nationalize the benefits. Similarly, if anyone is going to be collecting binders full of reams of data on citizens, it ought to be heavily regulated and transparent government agencies with strict privacy protections - which pretty much was the case for the census until someone hosed that up. Also,  at Jim Balsillie writing the bolded sentence.
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As endlessly fascinating as speculating about the facts of Colten Boushie's murder is, it still has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that peremptory challenges were used to select a jury with no First Nations members. Regardless of the facts of the case, that will permanently colour the interpretation of the verdict if it's an acquittal and contribute to anger within First Nations communities, whether justified or not.
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R v. Gayle posted:The Crown should exercise peremptory challenges in a manner that is in keeping with its quasi-judicial role. The Crown's exercise of discretion in relation to peremptory challenges is not immune from judicial scrutiny. If the exercise of the power is at odds with the quasi-judicial nature of the Crown's duty, or at odds with the basic rights and freedoms guaranteed by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the court can and should intervene. In particular, public confidence in the administration of justice would be seriously undermined if Crown counsel were permitted to exercise the power of peremptory challenge on racial or ethnic grounds. In this case, however, the accused had not made out a case for intervention. No objection was taken at trial to the Crown's exercise of peremptory challenges or to the composition of the jury that was selected to try the case. For the issue to be considered, it is imperative that it be raised at trial, so as to provide an opportunity to conduct a thorough review of all the relevant facts. The accused could not raise for the first time on appeal the issue of the alleged violation of his Charter rights by the Crown's exercise of peremptory challenges. Does the Defence have a similar obligation?
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PT6A posted:As endlessly fascinating as speculating about the facts of Colten Boushie's murder is, it still has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that peremptory challenges were used to select a jury with no First Nations members. Regardless of the facts of the case, that will permanently colour the interpretation of the verdict if it's an acquittal and contribute to anger within First Nations communities, whether justified or not. Spoiler alert, there's going to be anger any way this goes https://twitter.com/battlefordsNOW/status/958386763428278274
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flakeloaf posted:Does the Defence have a similar obligation? You forgot to include the Drewjitsu signal in your post.
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Reince Penis posted:
As a follow up: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/vic-fedeli-will-not-seek-leadership-bid-for-ontario-pcs/article37786158/ quote:Vic Fedeli will not seek leadership bid for Ontario PCs I think we're firmly into 'scuttle the party and start over' territory with the PCPO
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Jan 30, 2018 18:40
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Go go Trillium party!
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Jan 30, 2018 18:50
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A friend of mine is making the case that Doug Ford is mostly running for OPCP leadership as a sneaky backdoor way of running for Mayor of Toronto. https://twitter.com/derspiny/status/958168054873165824 https://twitter.com/derspiny/status/958168268119990272 https://twitter.com/derspiny/status/958168432922505217 https://twitter.com/derspiny/status/958168849580548101
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Jan 30, 2018 18:51
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Oh don’t forget he’s deep in organized crime. uh I feel like that might be crossing a line if you don’t have proof.
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Jan 30, 2018 19:27
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Yeah also I didn't want to nit pick but "He was probably the brains behind his brother’s run at mayor" is demonstrably untrue. It was Kouvalis who was the brains behind it. Kouvalis did it again for John Tory in 2014 and won. 2014 was the Rob Ford campaign that Doug was the brains behind.
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Jordan7hm posted:Oh don’t forget he’s deep in organized crime. Yeah, usually if you have mob ties youre running for mayor of Montreal.
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Jan 30, 2018 19:32
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EvilJoven posted:... you privileged fucks ... tell us more about your multiple vehicles, expensive bicycling gear, home and wifes business
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Jan 30, 2018 19:35
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vyelkin posted:This is completely unsurprising because people of colour are treated as exceptions who are defined by their race but white people are treated as the norm who are defined by their beliefs. Every single indigenous person was considered potentially biased because they share a race with the deceased, but yet every single white person was not considered potentially biased because they share a race with the accused. Except the defense gets 14 freebies for whatever reason they so choose, as does the Crown. Crown has a few more limitations, but my understanding is that any Native appearing people were excluded as part of the freebies (and I agree the reason was 'because they look native'). Unless you're advocating for removal of the 14 free exclusions I'm not sure what your point is. The crown most certainly excluded older white rural dudes as much as they possibly could with their freebies. I don't think the complete lack of native persons on the jury is a good thing, but I'm not sure what the answer is.
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Kly posted:tell us more about your multiple vehicles, expensive bicycling gear, home and wifes business One beat up second hand truck, my wife works for someone else and lol youre mad I have a few nice bikes. I bet you're also upset I have a fridge and a flat screen TV.
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Jan 30, 2018 19:44
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I think the real question is: Would you fire three rounds at someone who tried to steal them?
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Jan 30, 2018 19:50
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Naw i think your a fuckin joke pretending youre somehow less privledged than the other posters in this thread because you like to pretend youre blue collar after washing out of a computer toucher job
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infernal machines posted:I think the real question is: Would you fire three rounds at someone who tried to steal them? He admitted he's scared of a 10-year-old kid previously, so I'm gonna say "probably yes."
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Jury trial is weird for most cases. Dude killed someone fleeing the scene of an alleged potential burglary which is not in any possible scenario deserving of using deadly force. The only question at this point was if the farmer purposefully shot to kill because he was so angry that his property may have been at risk he wanted to murder someone, or if it was "just" insanely negligent use of a firearm.
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