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Milotic posted:My [37 M] sister [39 F] kissed while having an emotional breakdown and then apologize. Should I do something? Yeah file this under "temporary insanity" and never bring it up again.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Not everyone can afford to be picky about where they work. Some people seem think you can just go out pick a job from the job tree. I find people who get this mind are usually the ones get lucky and get into a good spot early on in their work career, and been in the same job their whole life, so don't understand job hoping and taking a job because its there, not because its your dream job.
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Wouldn't resetting PTO at the end of the year incentivize people to hoard it all year for an emergency or special opportunity and then blow it right before it resets making the problem of people already wanting to take off for the holidays even worse?
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On the other hand, people who can afford to even be the least bit picky would then immediately jump ship from companies with garbage policies. I guess it depends on their industry but it actively encourages the hiring of people with the least marketable skills.
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Three Olives posted:Wouldn't resetting PTO at the end of the year incentivize people to hoard it all year for an emergency or special opportunity and then blow it right before it resets making the problem of people already wanting to take off for the holidays even worse? My company addresses this by basically giving up the second half of December as wasted time
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Jan 30, 2018 20:12
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If a company was bad to work for no one would work for them and they'd go out of business. Basic market forces force all employers to treat staff well.
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Baronjutter posted:If a company was bad to work for no one would work for them and they'd go out of business. Basic market forces force all employers to treat staff well. lol
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Baronjutter posted:If a company was bad to work for no one would work for them and they'd go out of business. Basic market forces force all employers to treat staff well. And that's why Amazon is circling the drain!
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Baronjutter posted:If a company was bad to work for no one would work for them and they'd go out of business. Basic market forces force all employers to treat staff well. I assume this is sarcasm. But obviously places like Wal-mart can have garbage policies since the supply of unskilled workers is way higher than the demand. But for companies that require skilled workers where the supply is much lower, it greatly benefits them to provide good benefits to their employees.
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loquacius posted:My company addresses this by basically giving up the second half of December as wasted time I work for the government on a military base and we just close down from around Dec 20th to after New Years. Everyone has to use their leave, but we get a pretty generous amount as it is, anyway and if you really want to work they have a clean up crew that does bullshit assignments during that time.
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Three Olives posted:Wouldn't resetting PTO at the end of the year incentivize people to hoard it all year for an emergency or special opportunity and then blow it right before it resets making the problem of people already wanting to take off for the holidays even worse? My company resets at the start of the year, and the last two weeks are very dead. This past year, I think three people total were in the office between Christmas and New Years. Typically, there are 15-20 in the office. Almost every other company we work with is like this too, so just not much gets done that week.
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Companies generally doesn't like people accuring too much time off because its a liability on their books (since the vast majority pays out the time when an employee leaves, and employees could leave at any time so the money has to be there). Hence there's all sort of PTO caps and "use it or lose it" policies.
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bamhand posted:But for companies that require skilled workers where the supply is much lower, it greatly benefits them to provide good benefits to their employees. As someone mentioned Amazon is notoriously horrible to work for, like beyond awful. And I don't mean warehouse employees, like headquarter employees. Apparently they pay you really well and there are nice office perks so they still manage to hire plenty of skilled people but apparently the treat even people like highly skilled and incredibly well paid programmers like absolute poo poo. Oddly enough Walmart apparently treats corporate employees pretty well, like even middle managers are allowed to use their corporate jets and even bump higher level employees from them if there is a business need. I guess they kind of have to if they want to recruit top talent to Bentonville. Three Olives fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Jan 30, 2018 |
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Right, Amazon's benefits package is "we pay you a gently caress ton more money than anyone else will". But it's not like having lovely policies costs the company nothing. I suppose that company that resets your PTO to 0 every year on your join date could pay very well or something. In general though, companies trying to attract highly skilled workers try to have very good benefits because it's good for the company.
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Three Olives posted:
Counterpoint: they enforce shared hotel rooms. gently caress that.
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My company cuts you down to 80 hours on your anniversary so you're encouraged to both know when that is and take time off such that you have <79 hours accrued at your anniversary. We have a couple guys who regularly lose out on 20-40 PTO hours every year despite knowing this and having anniversary dates in like september/october. 
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We can carry 240 over every year. You have to use everything else. The government is nuts like that. We get a lot of leave depending on how long we work there.
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What sucks is when you have so much vacation time to burn, but your company discourages you from taking it.
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Yawgmoth posted:My company cuts you down to 80 hours on your anniversary so you're encouraged to both know when that is and take time off such that you have <79 hours accrued at your anniversary. We have a couple guys who regularly lose out on 20-40 PTO hours every year despite knowing this and having anniversary dates in like september/october. Haha I would tell them to get hosed and take my "lost" vacation. Do people really tolerate this BS? Company I work for you just have a PTO balance that accrues to the max amount for you as you work. It's year-round and doesn't expire so no need to mass take vacations in December or any other such nonsense. You can also go up to a week into negative if something comes up. Once it built up to the maximum amount (say 4 weeks) it just doesn't go higher anymore. Why is that complicated to implement for other companies? If I interviewed for a company with some crazy PTO scheme where you actually lose your hours I would literally laugh and end the conversation right there. Rad Russian fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Jan 30, 2018 |
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Some people are just incredibly petty assholes that will pinch the weirdest pennies, while simultaneously blowing thousands of dollars on bullshit. I used to work for a company that, instead of just capping how much PTO you could accrue, would reset your PTO hours to zero on your hiring anniversary. This turbofucked the guys who got hired in December because every year they wouldn't have any vacation time for going to visit people for the holidays. Jesus loving gently caress. I hope this company no longer exists. That's one of the most evil, most reprehensible things I have ever seen a company do, short of blatant human rights abuses like underpaying undocumented immigrants, covering up sexual assault, or overworking children. Three Olives posted:Wouldn't resetting PTO at the end of the year incentivize people to hoard it all year for an emergency or special opportunity and then blow it right before it resets making the problem of people already wanting to take off for the holidays even worse? Shockingly, people want to take vacation during the holidays to spend time with their family and a decent company that doesn't hate its workforce understands this. I work at the headquarters of a major Fortune 500 company and the last 2 weeks the office are literally dead because most people take it off. No one cares and it's expected. Cough Drop The Beat fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Jan 30, 2018 |
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bamhand posted:On the other hand, people who can afford to even be the least bit picky would then immediately jump ship from companies with garbage policies. I guess it depends on their industry but it actively encourages the hiring of people with the least marketable skills. the vast, vast majority of jobs don't require competing for the absolute cream of the crop. it's not as cost-efficient as the people doing it often imagine but it's perfectly possible to build a viable longterm business model out of burning through whatever warm body comes through the door barely paying them and not really giving a poo poo whether their output is great or barely adequate. I know somebody working for company that's been going decades hiring only people with masters' degrees to be basically movers and then just laying off anyone in the company who ever gets an injury, apparently they make enough surplus money to gently caress around and management would rather play dumb little games trying to rip off their employees than pocket the difference themselves. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Jan 30, 2018 |
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Batterypowered7 posted:Speaking of cheating and people that peaced the gently caress out of the thread, whatever happened to Blue Train? That dude was all for cheating, wasn't he? He's making fun of misogynists and worrying about lowtax.
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Rad Russian posted:Haha I would tell them to get hosed and take my "lost" vacation. Do people really tolerate this BS? If you interviewed with us and you got all goony over the PTO schematic we would laugh at you as soon as the door closed.
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Vargatron posted:What sucks is when you have so much vacation time to burn, but your company discourages you from taking it. yeah the smart bad bosses will offer tons of benefits on paper and then make crystal clear they'll can you if you ever have the temerity to use them.
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OH MY GOD WHO THE HELL CARES ABOUT PTO CHAT.
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Ouhei posted:OH MY GOD WHO THE HELL CARES ABOUT PTO CHAT.
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WELL THE FUCKIN' DOOR IS THAT WAY M8 Ask me about my 3 weeks of vacation leave on top of 3 weeks sick leave. Edit: Oh poo poo, thought I was in the Working in IT thread, sorry.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:yeah the smart bad bosses will offer tons of benefits on paper and then make crystal clear they'll can you if you ever have the temerity to use them. This is why America is a poo poo country lol I can't believe you put up with such garbage work security
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In exchange we get really bad healthcare.
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I (24F) can't deal with my Aspergers Fiance (26M), and I feel bad about itquote:My fiance and I have been together for a year, and we're expecting our first baby, but his Aspie behavior is driving a wedge between us and I can't keep doing this. No jury in the world......
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Only one year together and you already have a kid?
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Vargatron posted:Only one year together and you already have a kid? And engaged. That relationship should have been nipped in the bud.
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Andy Dufresne posted:And engaged. Much like their child
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Vargatron posted:Only one year together and you already have a kid? I mean, look at what a catch he is. No way she could let that pass her by
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La Brea Carpet posted:I (24F) can't deal with my Aspergers Fiance (26M), and I feel bad about it quote:I love him Why
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well if I had to guess:quote:my mental health issues (BPD, OCD, and anxiety)
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She has BPD, OCD, and anxiety and decided to marry and have a child with an autistic person? I think this relationship ends in murder/suicide.
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Demon Of The Fall posted:He's gonna be a treat when he has to deal with a screaming, needy baby. OTOH, she's had a year of practice.
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