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Oh, I got a call back about a job I applied for last week. "I don't see that you have any programming experience." Ummm my last job I was a web developer for 4 years... "Right, but we're looking for a programmer." Uhmm that's the same thing "Ruby and Python? I've never heard of those languages." OK BYE
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Bob Morales posted:Oh, I got a call back about a job I applied for last week. In his defense, Ruby? Come on. EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm a sysadmin, but I have yet to meet a developer/programmer/app specialist that was an expert in Ruby that wasn't also a complete imbecile.
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Jan 30, 2018 14:35
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Jerk McJerkface posted:In his defense, Ruby? Come on. Rails rules. Ruled. idk
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Jan 30, 2018 14:39
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Jerk McJerkface posted:In his defense, Ruby? Come on. But you HAVE heard of it
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mewse posted:But you HAVE heard of it At my previous job, I sent a streaming media appliance to a MAJOR CABLE TV NEWS STATION, it ran Ubuntu, but it was basically an appliance that had no network access or anything besides being connected on one end to a dedicated internet line, and the other end was A/V out, so there was zero chance of network contamination. The DIRECTOR OF TECHNOLOGY for the MAJOR CABLE TV NEWS STATION sent me back a nasty email in mostly caps: "I DON'T KNOW WHAT UBUNTUS IS, OR WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BUT I WILL NOT PUT ANYTHING ON MY NETWORK THAT I CAN'T INSTALL MCAFEE ANTIVIRUS." I printed up the email and hung it on my cubicle until my boss made me take it down. Imagine being in charge of a MAJOR CABLE TV NEWS STATIONS technology and not knowing what Ubuntu is.
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Jan 30, 2018 14:43
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True story, someone had the Ubuntu logo on their desk and I asked if they were a penguins fan before realising what it actually was. That was moderately embarrassing. Serves me right for talking before I get a coffee in.
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Jan 30, 2018 15:39
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I did a couple hours of work for a previous employer this year, and invoiced them each time (2 visits, total) Once was in October, once was in December. Have I gotten paid? No. My contact there kept asking if received a check and was trying to get their accounting department to sort it out, but I haven't heard from him this year after a couple emails/text messages. I guess I have to find out who the accounts payable contact is over there now. They've been bought/sold so many times since I left a couple years ago. It's < $1,000 but it's such a pain in the rear end to collect money from people.
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Jan 30, 2018 17:22
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Bob Morales posted:I did a couple hours of work for a previous employer this year, and invoiced them each time (2 visits, total) Maybe it's time to threaten Small Claims Court and then follow through if there's no payments forthcoming.
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Jan 30, 2018 18:41
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Bob Morales posted:I did a couple hours of work for a previous employer this year, and invoiced them each time (2 visits, total) $AWFUL_JOB did that sort of thing, a few times I had some friends help out and consult, and they just didn't pay. I'd mention it and guy would just laugh. A few times he told me if it's worth them suing us, let them, we'll pay them half like we usually do and they'll go away, it's not worth their time to sue us for $1000.
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Jan 30, 2018 19:07
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In our team meeting: Great news, we’re moving to full BYOD and cutting the stipend in half. Also making some people not qualify. We’ll save over a half a million over three years. Of course that costs me $1,300 over three years, and possibly $2,609 because I’m not sure if I would qualify based on the proposed criteria. But it’s still good news, everyone be happy!
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Jan 30, 2018 19:41
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Jerk McJerkface posted:$AWFUL_JOB did that sort of thing, a few times I had some friends help out and consult, and they just didn't pay. I'd mention it and guy would just laugh. A few times he told me if it's worth them suing us, let them, we'll pay them half like we usually do and they'll go away, it's not worth their time to sue us for $1000. Small claims allows you have the defendant reimburse any court fees if you win. And with a signed contract and invoices, you'll win.
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Jan 30, 2018 19:42
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Jerk McJerkface posted:$AWFUL_JOB did that sort of thing, a few times I had some friends help out and consult, and they just didn't pay. I'd mention it and guy would just laugh. A few times he told me if it's worth them suing us, let them, we'll pay them half like we usually do and they'll go away, it's not worth their time to sue us for $1000. Yeah, this is exactly what small claims is for and its shockingly easy to get resolved. The only thing is that it normally takes a few months to get heard.
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Jan 30, 2018 19:45
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Jerk McJerkface posted:EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm a sysadmin, but I have yet to meet a developer/programmer/app specialist that was an expert in Ruby that wasn't also a complete imbecile. You have now 
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Jan 30, 2018 20:03
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Jerk McJerkface posted:$AWFUL_JOB did that sort of thing, a few times I had some friends help out and consult, and they just didn't pay. I'd mention it and guy would just laugh. A few times he told me if it's worth them suing us, let them, we'll pay them half like we usually do and they'll go away, it's not worth their time to sue us for $1000. Was your boss orange - coloured with a weasel on his head?
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Jan 30, 2018 20:15
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spog posted:Was your boss orange - coloured with a weasel on his head? Basically. Proteus Jones posted:Small claims allows you have the defendant reimburse any court fees if you win. And with a signed contract and invoices, you'll win. Oh, I know, but he'd keep pushing to see how little they'd except. I suppose a contractor they own $500 to would be happy to just get 375 and be done with it, instead of waiting months for small claims.
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Jan 30, 2018 20:54
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22 Eargesplitten posted:In our team meeting: Great news, we’re moving to full BYOD and cutting the stipend in half. Also making some people not qualify. We’ll save over a half a million over three years. Shame that you can't be contacted unless you're at your desk any more.
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Jan 30, 2018 20:56
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22 Eargesplitten posted:In our team meeting: Great news, we’re moving to full BYOD and cutting the stipend in half. Also making some people not qualify. We’ll save over a half a million over three years. I can't imagine why you'd ever do that, how can you possible support that much personal equipment? Even with a standard issue laptop it's hard to keep it all working well.
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Jan 30, 2018 21:04
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Jerk McJerkface posted:$AWFUL_JOB did that sort of thing, a few times I had some friends help out and consult, and they just didn't pay. I'd mention it and guy would just laugh. A few times he told me if it's worth them suing us, let them, we'll pay them half like we usually do and they'll go away, it's not worth their time to sue us for $1000. The proper solution is to repossess the work - go back and revert everything to the pre-original-work state. Oh, there were other things done, updates applied and data added since that point? Ain't that a shame, the clock just got hard-reset. <evil_laugh> In entirely-unrelated news, a package came into our mailroom... addressed to someone not on staff (according to HR) and not a client (according to med records). 1x "couples" vibrating toy 1x med. bottle of lube 1x med. bottle of misting toy cleaner 1x "sexy massage kit" 1x sexy blindfold 1x 2-pack of Energizer AAs 1x sexy velvet storage bag (backordered - should ship by the 3rd) YOU DUMB SHITS Almost every piece of incoming mail is opened and inspected here. (C-levels and confidential-to-named people excepted.) It is therefore important to make sure anything you elect to receive at work be... *not* inappropriate. I don't have my booze or drugs sent here, I don't have my loving ammo sent here (or my loving-ammo, either  ), whatever possessed someone to have their Adam & Eve order shipped to work? Our mail-room guy will be having *words* with someone about this... (I already had to help him find USPS Form 1500 to get the company off the mailing list for a couple other adult entertainment suppliers)I figure there's about a 70% chance it's an employee who hasn't properly filed a name change, and out of the handful that have that first name, I *really* don't want that kind of mental image of them.  Oh, and our main center was locked down for like half an hour the other day, just someone announcing they were gonna shoot themselves in the lobby, NBD.
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Jan 30, 2018 21:08
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Jerk McJerkface posted:I can't imagine why you'd ever do that, how can you possible support that much personal equipment? Even with a standard issue laptop it's hard to keep it all working well. You don't support it. You firewall the poo poo out of everything, fire your desktop support guys, and everyone is on their own. Mayyyybe outsource business critical stuff like email and calendaring and make your "supported" option a web app.
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Jan 30, 2018 21:10
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:The proper solution is to repossess the work - go back and revert everything to the pre-original-work state. That is the first I have ever heard of company opening their employees mail. Is this some strange security policy?
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Jan 30, 2018 21:11
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Jerk McJerkface posted:I can't imagine why you'd ever do that, how can you possible support that much personal equipment? Even with a standard issue laptop it's hard to keep it all working well. We’re a construction company, so a lot of people probably wouldn’t qualify, there’s going to be phone requirements (No, your Samsung S2 isn’t supported), and it’s limited to problems with our software. You get a bunch of viruses, go to Best Buy / the Apple Store. Probably reception stuff too, but viruses or general slowness or someone running over their phone with their gravel truck isn’t our problem. They are thinking about maybe getting a discount program set up with Otterbox though, since company phones currently come with otterboxes.
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Jan 30, 2018 21:14
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MS licensing really sucks... Upgrading our RDS farm to new hardware and OS (going from 2008 R2 running on 6 year old hardware) We are looking at $19,410 in just RDS User CALs. Ouch.
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:The proper solution is to repossess the work - go back and revert everything to the pre-original-work state.
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:YOU DUMB SHITS Can you imagine the markup on those AA batteries? Just go to Target for that stuff, dummies!
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Jan 30, 2018 21:16
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I don't see the problem of getting a bunch of sex toy stuff delivered to work, as long as people aren't lining it up on their desk or whatever.
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Jan 30, 2018 21:16
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Actually, is the c/o addressee even allowed to open mail? I feel like that might be mail tampering. I also just found out that I can no longer leave early / late for a meeting or appointment and just make it up later in the week. Now I would have to use PTO. Guess who just went to a punch clock mentality until he has the skills to find something better?
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Actually, is the c/o addressee even allowed to open mail? I feel like that might be mail tampering. Your company might be having some financial issues.
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Jan 30, 2018 21:19
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Strangely, no. Fantastic year last year. The company portion of our bonus this year was 100%. So was the department portion. Company as a whole went from -40 million last year to +9 million this year. My manager said it’s because when I leave for a short day someone else has to step up in my position. Doesn’t make a ton of sense to me since 90% of what I do is projects. At least I can take long lunches still or come in early/late on the same day. So I won’t have to use PTO for apartment hunting.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Actually, is the c/o addressee even allowed to open mail? I feel like that might be mail tampering.
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Jan 30, 2018 21:23
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xzzy posted:You don't support it. You firewall the poo poo out of everything, fire your desktop support guys, and everyone is on their own. Mayyyybe outsource business critical stuff like email and calendaring and make your "supported" option a web app. Yeah, I get how to lock it down, but honestly, if people are required to have a PC for their job, how can you tell them "you need a PC, no we aren't getting you one?"
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Jan 30, 2018 21:29
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I thought BYOD was a fad that was over now
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Some places (like here) give money every couple of years to either buy a cheap phone or take the sting out of an expensive phone. What pisses me off is that the stipend we got was enough to completely cover my wife and I on MetroPCS. Probably on Cricket too, which we might do eventually. So now I basically have one more bill to budget for.
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Jan 30, 2018 21:38
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Jerk McJerkface posted:Yeah, I get how to lock it down, but honestly, if people are required to have a PC for their job, how can you tell them "you need a PC, no we aren't getting you one?" This really is baffling. Is the job market so bad that companies in the US can get away with "buy your own stuff, no money though'
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 Ask guy with the Cardinals avatar about how he thinks BYOD shouldn’t be optional and how he doesn’t feel like companies should be obligated to give people any money for using personal phones for business.
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If my company didn't provide me a phone(or money for my personal phone), I wouldn't install/access work email on it or give them my cell phone number. Luckily even my dying poo poo company provides me a phone so I don't have to have that fight.
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Jan 30, 2018 22:36
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Sickening posted:That is the first I have ever heard of company opening their employees mail. Is this some strange security policy? It might be regional legal requirements, my company is required to have any packages (not mail) delivered to our company loading dock be opened to verify the contents. Anything without a packing slip may be rejected outright if the name on the package isn't on a short list or our receiving folks are told to keep an eye out for it beforehand.
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Jan 30, 2018 22:51
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Peachfart posted:If my company didn't provide me a phone(or money for my personal phone), I wouldn't install/access work email on it or give them my cell phone number. Yeah, I just started a new job, and they want you to install some bullshit called AirWatch to get on the company wifi or check your drat email on a phone. I guess I won't be very available until they pony up for a company phone or something, they don't need to be reading my drat Gmail.
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Jan 30, 2018 22:52
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Jedi425 posted:they don't need to be reading my drat Gmail. By law, MDMs are forbidden from accessing personal info. If they get caught remitting any info back to the servers other than device security state, you are in for a pretty big lawsuit settlement.
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bull3964 posted:By law, MDMs are forbidden from accessing personal info. If they get caught remitting any info back to the servers other than device security state, you are in for a pretty big lawsuit settlement. Can you cite a case for precedence here? I don't believe that such laws have any teeth.
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anthonypants posted:What does it say about you that you are less outraged about your employer opening someone's mail, and that you have been given an itemized list of the contents of someone's mail, than you are of the fact that your employer opens and "inspects" all incoming mail, even when the employer is explicitly not the recipient? It says that he almost certainly works with classified or in a scif somewhere
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