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Fang is actually stronger than Lightning because she never fucks up or fails. Just sayin'. Lightning is still really cool though. Punching Snow etc
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WaltherFeng posted:Knight/Black Mage and Bushi/Monk gets you both and those are really powerful combos These are some weird-rear end combos that, while having some synergy, hamstring themselves in other ways too. Which is ok, cause ZA is easy enough that doing weird poo poo can be more entertaining than doing the most mechanically optimal. If min-maxing is your thing, this reddit post makes some reasonable assumptions and then, by process of elimination, pares down the possible job combinations to the top ~15 most effective. Corvinus fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Jan 31, 2018 |
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I tried getting through FF13 when it was fairly new but found myself disliking pretty much all of the cast, Lightning included, and didn't make it to the point where the game apparently gets less linear.
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Zerilan posted:I tried getting through FF13 when it was fairly new but found myself disliking pretty much all of the cast, Lightning included, and didn't make it to the point where the game apparently gets less linear. Its never all that much less linear. The game is really good when you skip every single cutscene though
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Elephant Ambush posted:Fang is actually stronger than Lightning because she never fucks up or fails. I mean, Fang kinda hosed up in the ending by giving in and letting semi-ragnarok happen under Orphan's orders.
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gently caress this puzzle in the bevelle underground in ffx-2. i hosed it up twice even with a guide because i am dumb. why do you have to fight high hp enemies every time you move the device. what fucker designed this
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melodicwaffle posted:Gladio literally spends the entirety of the dlc hitting on every single woman in lestallum, to noctis and prompto's utter disgust This is a few pages back but literally throughout the main game a running joke is that wherever you go Gladio has met and possibly slept with any female you meet on the starting continent. He knows the names of EVERY woman who could possibly help you on the first continent including the weird lady who seems to only like frogs and sending you to go chase them through swampy areas. And then in the AC cross over he teleports across the city every time you do something to be hitting on a new woman in Lestalum while you and Prompto are enjoying your weird assassin stuff and Ignis is off being amazing without you. If Gladio wasn't spending all his time guarding Noctis or going through a dungeon with Cor he'd have more heirs then Attila the Hun in a few generations. :P For more recent things in the thread.... Of course Motomu would say that. The fucker is obsessed with her, if she actually existed he'd probably stalk her heavily enough she'd have to kill him to get rid of him.
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Is it confirmed that Gladio gets around? I just thought it was more that every woman in Lestallium wants to jump his bones, I can't remember if he actually reciprocates. Of course, I didn't do that cross-over DLC.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Is it confirmed that Gladio gets around? I just thought it was more that every woman in Lestallium wants to jump his bones, I can't remember if he actually reciprocates. Of course, I didn't do that cross-over DLC. I seem to recall him hitting on Cindy really really hard at the very beginning of the game, even.
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It's great because Gladio's kinda shoddy voice over makes his pick up lines sound like they were delivered by a loving serial killer
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You know, it probably says something how my reaction to Edgar is that his flirtiness with women is a fun little piece of his character, while my reaction to hearing the same thing about Gladio is 'eugh'. Probably because the presence of Terra and Celes as the effective-protagonists of VI (even if Terra doesn't always have the spotlight when she is) means that I know the game thinks highly of women. While XV's entirely male party makes that kind of character sound less palatable.
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Yoshi-P says what I'm thinking when it comes to FF3. No wonder he used that as the basis for the first 24 man raid.
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If it makes it any better (probably not but hey) none of them seem to dislike him and it seems like everyone knows he's a ladies man. And as others said he appears to have a fiance at the end that he's embarrassed about(and doesn't specifically have any flirting he does at end game though that could be for reasons of just not being around basically anyone at that time). Outside of that I can't say a whole lot about the role of women in the game except that Aranea is pretty cool and Lestallum is literally run by women with the men being shopkeepers, cooks, and home tenders seemingly. It is also the city where you actually get to see Gladio going about flirting as opposed to just hearing something of the others wondering how he knows the female quest givers. Ignis is also debately the best mother in the game. While not showing a particular attraction to anyone. Prompto seems rather attracted to one(Cidney) or two(Maybe Aranea) of the women but gets absolutely nowhere with them. And Cidney is stated to have numerous admirers and be ignoring all of them because she's in love with her work. The only women in the game that are attracted to anyone but Gladio(If we assume the AC thing is canon letting us actually see them flirting back basically where as without it they may as well have just rebuffed him for all the mention they personally make of it) as far as we can tell are both attracted to Noctis and there are quite a number that seem to not be attracted to anyone at all or at least care about their work and job more then they care about doing anything with guys, delectably Lunafreya even leans that direction even if she does most of it because of Noctis. And beyond that aside from the outfits of Cidney and perhaps the engineers of Lestalum(Mostly suits worn to hang from the waist with a sports bra or tank top kind of top on under it for when they aren't in the extreme heat of the power station) we don't see women being particularly sexualized and none of them seem to flirt themselves with anyone of the cast proactively with the most actual flirting being once again the AC crossover. I seem to have proven myself wrong, irregardless while I can't say women are treated very well in the game particularly(There are 8 females in the world that I can think of with a name. And one only shows up for about 5 seconds until companions.) they at least aren't really treated poorly with the most egregious example being perhaps Cidney's outfit. Hell the game even goes out of its way in its bestiary to make it so you can turn or zoom in on any female model they find to 'provocative' like Shiva and......Some demon with snake tentacle hair that isn't called Medusa, echidna maybe? I beat it like a month ago and was too busy trying not to die horribly to remember its name. So....  draw your own conclusions or if you are willing to bite the bullet play the game. There's a lovely royal edition coming out with all the poo poo I already paid for and more in it.
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Zerilan posted:I tried getting through FF13 when it was fairly new but found myself disliking pretty much all of the cast, Lightning included, and didn't make it to the point where the game apparently gets less linear. It's a bad game
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Cleretic posted:You know, it probably says something how my reaction to Edgar is that his flirtiness with women is a fun little piece of his character, while my reaction to hearing the same thing about Gladio is 'eugh'. I dunno, Edgar kind-of hitting on Relm ups his skeeviness a fair amount. XV does have the merit where it doesn't really have any damsels-in-distress; Aranea's tough, Iris grows up to be a demonslayer, and Lunafreya may look it but she definitely isn't a damsel waiting to be rescued. Even Cidney, for all the problems with her outfit, seems just like a tomboy who's showing a bit too much skin. In VI you have to rescue Celes twice and Terra thrice. Unrelated, but I'm really glad Dissidia NT lets Terra actually have some personality compared to the really bland 'GET AWAY FROM ME' in the original.
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ApplesandOranges posted:I dunno, Edgar kind-of hitting on Relm ups his skeeviness a fair amount. Yeah but celes and Terra both do some rescuing of their own through the coarse of the story. Just because someone needs rescuing doesn't belittle their character. It's part of their character arcs which they overcome and grow by the end of the story. The female cast of ffxv don't even have their own arcs...???
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Aranea goes from disgruntled mercenary to deciding to leave the Empire and help the people fleeing from the Starscourge. Iris goes from girl with puppydog crush to demonslayer. Lunafreya... just kind of does Lunafreya things, but she's been consistently shown to be pretty selfless and courageous. Probably helps to watch Kingsglaive, but meh. They're not super deep arcs, but it's not like they stay static.
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FINAL FANTASY XV: PAX West Memories with Fans Whatever you feel about FFXV, you really have to hand it to Tabata and his team. They've open about the game development process and incorporated fan feedback. Tabata's also tried to address fan criticisms of the game head on and did his best to improve weak points through updates. This level of transparency and engagement was much needed after the radio silence of Versus XIII Help Im Alive posted:There's an extremely important article on the playstation blog where the FF devs pick their favourite Final Fantasy 
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FFXV just barely passes the Bechdel test, when Camelia and Luna have a brief discussion during the negotiations. 6 barely passes it too, since the only conversation I can recall between two women in the party is when Celes talks to Terra about being a magic user prior to the siege on Narshe. I think all the others pass. Every one from 7 and up does, for sure. Pretty sure 4/5 do. 1-3 probably don't.
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Edgar explicitly chases jailbait, it's something they tease even in WoFF for cryin' out loud. It's a very odd character quirk for him to have in TYOL 2018.Cleretic posted:Probably because the presence of Terra and Celes as the effective-protagonists of VI (even if Terra doesn't always have the spotlight when she is) means that I know the game thinks highly of women. While XV's entirely male party makes that kind of character sound less palatable. This is sort of a weird attitude, even if FFXV is kind of a sausage-fest that's an explicit part of the theme (brotherhood) so I don't think it really implies anything untowards regarding women.
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Lol at the Bechdel test in TYOOL 2018.
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Terper posted:Lol at the Bechdel test in TYOOL 2018.
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Does VIII actually pass? Like almost anytime there are two named girls talking to each other (which is already pretty rare) the topic is almost always Squall or Laguna. The only other scene I can think of is when Rinoa confronts Edea, and Edea doesn't even talk back.
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Well there's the scene before/during the assassination attempt where Rinoa and Quistis get mad at each other, I think.
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^^^^ edit: lol efb, should've hit previewApplesandOranges posted:Does VIII actually pass? Like almost anytime there are two named girls talking to each other (which is already pretty rare) the topic is almost always Squall or Laguna. I know there's the scene where before the assasination attempt, right when the party splits into 2, where Rinoa pops in to talk to the Quistis group and she shows off the Odine Bangle, and then Quistis gives her poo poo about not thinking through the plan. Not sure how much it counts, since Quistis does allude to Rinoa's problems with her dad in there as well, but it seems primarily about Rinoa's plan. There's probably more but my memory of 8 is fuzzy
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The Bechdel test is a useful thing but it's mainly something that you use on all games in aggregate, rather than to judge any specific one.
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All scenes in FFX-2 where the girls talk about fashion and friendship: Super good All scenes in FFX-2 where Yuna mopes about her dead BF: Not as good This checks out.
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Anyone give the dissidia mobile game a shot? The reviews aren't pretty.
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Rand Brittain posted:The Bechdel test is a useful thing but it's mainly something that you use on all games in aggregate, rather than to judge any specific one. It's really useful in how easy it should be to pass; it's an incredibly low bar. And yet, welp.
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DrNutt posted:It's really useful in how easy it should be to pass; it's an incredibly low bar. And yet, welp. The Bechdel test implies that a movie about a married lesbian couple adopting and raising a son could quite possibly wind up 'sexist.' It also implies that a movie about a gang of human sex traffickers could be 'not sexist' simply by having two female captives of the gang given names and having a discussion about their hopes and dreams for the future for a full scene, before being sold off and shown on camera as being used to create snuff pornography. It's an incredibly artificial, reductionist and useless metric for anything. Edit: Interestingly, my opinion is very similar to Alison Bechdel's: Alison Bechdel posted:You can have a feminist movie that doesn’t meet the criteria, and you can have a movie that meets the criteria and isn’t feminist. So, it’s not scientific or anything. It was meant as a joke, but I still think it’s a very useful joke…. It’s a bit surprising what does and doesn’t pass. TheCenturion fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Jan 31, 2018 |
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Aaaaaaaahhhhh
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Never seen a post that is  while also describing the joke itself, a first for the something awful forums.
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TheCenturion posted:The Bechdel test implies that a movie about a married lesbian couple adopting and raising a son could quite possibly wind up 'sexist.' It also implies that a movie about a gang of human sex traffickers could be 'not sexist' simply by having two female captives of the gang given names and having a discussion about their hopes and dreams for the future for a full scene, before being sold off and shown on camera as being used to create snuff pornography. It's one way to critique something, not the end all be all. No one is saying "this movie features horrific rape scenes, but it has two women talking together, therefore it's a feminist masterpiece" you moron. Yes, sometimes a movie can fail it and still be good, but most of the time it's a decent basic minimum bar to leap over, and if it can't even do that, you have to wonder why.
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Interestingly as per the imdb only 4 movies fail the reverse beschel test.
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The bechdel test is for fun. Let people have fun
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Fun Home was really good, but Are You My Mother? was too slow and navel-gazey to actually finish. "Secret Gay Dad + Coming of Age" just turned out to be a much better hook than "I Talk to Therapists About Why My Mom is Boring."
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Ainsley McTree posted:Let people have fun 
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seiferguy posted:FFXV just barely passes the Bechdel test, when Camelia and Luna have a brief discussion during the negotiations. 6 barely passes it too, since the only conversation I can recall between two women in the party is when Celes talks to Terra about being a magic user prior to the siege on Narshe. Just to be clear, does FF7 pass the Bechdel Test because of the scene where Tifa and Scarlet have a slap fight while standing on ShinRa's enormous phallic symbol?
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