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I would be prepared to give up eating animals if you could ensure a regular supply of tories and/or rich people for me to eat.
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My dad used to tell me veal was raised in a pitch black dark crate with no other calves and was killed by slowly draining its blood and I have no idea why he felt the need to embellish what is already a pretty awful thing
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Jan 31, 2018 17:56
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Coohoolin posted:More of a snipe at the moral outrage brigade who always seem to be "i'm alright jack" tories that care more about the cutesy animals than the thousands dying but sure. Fair, I always forget about the rowers. The most ardent animal rights bods I've met have been very working class.
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Jan 31, 2018 18:00
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good news everyone https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-30/yield-hungry-markets-set-to-welcome-greece-s-new-seven-year-bond quote:Yield-Hungry Markets Set to Welcome Greece's New Seven-Year Bond
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Jan 31, 2018 18:05
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It is cool and good to be friend to animal but this is assuming that you are already friend to fellow man. All animal must stick together because plants will not talk! gently caress off idiot plant.
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Jan 31, 2018 18:07
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forkboy84 posted:Fair, I always forget about the rowers. Complete opposite in my experience. Almost always middle class, high prevalence of Germans and Swedes. I've also heard a lot of arguments about veganism being a form of class privilege, because being able to afford to be selective with your diet isn't in everyone's financial remit. Hear that a lot from a lot of activists, frequently from the working class ones.
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Jan 31, 2018 18:11
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What I do is sometimes get a tin of soup, heat it up, poach an egg in it, serve that with a pork pie sausage roll.
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Jan 31, 2018 18:18
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Coohoolin posted:Complete opposite in my experience. Almost always middle class, high prevalence of Germans and Swedes. I've also heard a lot of arguments about veganism being a form of class privilege, because being able to afford to be selective with your diet isn't in everyone's financial remit. Hear that a lot from a lot of activists, frequently from the working class ones. I realised after writing this that the reason is because very few people in my social circle aren't working class so it's not exactly a broad sample Size.
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Jan 31, 2018 18:21
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Barry Foster posted:What I do is sometimes get a tin of soup, heat it up, poach an egg in it, serve that with a pork pie sausage roll.
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Jan 31, 2018 18:25
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Jose posted:good news everyone Good job this has never gone wrong before!!!!!
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Barry Foster posted:What I do is sometimes get a tin of soup, heat it up, poach an egg in it, serve that with a pork pie sausage roll. Are you Australian or something?
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Jan 31, 2018 18:27
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OwlFancier posted:Cucumber has both a strong flavour and is incredibly pervasive? Presumably because it leaks juice everywhere and makes everything it touches taste of cucumber too. My parents farm cucumbers for a living, they will fight you they say. ... Anyway I find that it's pretty tasteless, but when you get the first few batches from a young plant it definitely has a taste that goes away as it gets older. I can tell the young plant taste from store bought and it coincides with the time of year I know the farmers are usually swapping out plants.
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Jan 31, 2018 18:28
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You fuckers better hope you never develop IBS else you'll be scanning menus hoping you won't accidentally eat an ingredient that'll set your average shits per day for the next half a week to five Do you know what I have to order my chicken at Nandos as? Plain. I could kill a man if it let me have spices or caffeine again.
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His Divine Shadow posted:My parents farm cucumbers for a living, they will fight you they say. I mean, I figured that was the appeal for people who like cucumber? If they invented a plant that did that except it tasted like pork crackling I'd never eat anything else.
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Jan 31, 2018 18:30
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MikeCrotch posted:Veal in this country generally refers to "white veal" i.e. the one where they are confined and fed only milk. You are starting to see move towards "young beef" now which is similar to red veal in a lot of ways, I don't think its widely available though. Brum
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Jan 31, 2018 18:31
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forkboy84 posted:I realised after writing this that the reason is because very few people in my social circle aren't working class so it's not exactly a broad sample Size. I literally had this happen to me in Drummonds on Sunday night. My gf is out for a smoke so I'm just on my phone killing time, this girl comes up and says  "nice jacket" "thanks, it's from the-" "did you buy it new?" "no it was a gift" "good because i was about to have a go at you for supporting the leather industry" "i mean i don't wake up in the morning and think to myself aw man i can't wait to go out and support the leather industry today but... i eat a lot of meat i guess" "do you have netflix" "don't bother recommending cowspiracy" "no watch 'what the health', you'll thank me"At this point my gf came back and i turned away and we started making fun of her in not so sottovoce tones because who the hell walks up to a random in a bar and starts a conversation about how their jacket supports the evil leather industry?
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Jan 31, 2018 18:33
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Zephro posted:Yes. American food is plasticised cheese that you squeeze out of tubes, they are the last people we should be listening to on the subject of gastronomy Tubes are a great food delivery system and I won't have it slandered.
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Coohoolin posted:Complete opposite in my experience. Almost always middle class, high prevalence of Germans and Swedes. I've also heard a lot of arguments about veganism being a form of class privilege, because being able to afford to be selective with your diet isn't in everyone's financial remit. Hear that a lot from a lot of activists, frequently from the working class ones. That seems an odd argument given that meat and cheese aren't exactly cheap. I'm struggling to imagine how being a vegan would have to be expensive in any way?
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Coohoolin posted:I literally had this happen to me in Drummonds on Sunday night. My gf is out for a smoke so I'm just on my phone killing time, this girl comes up and says What's "the leather industry"? Cos I mean, surely that's actually "the dairy industry" unless they demand strict separation of beef and hide cattle? What else you gonna do with the cow packaging if not reuse it?
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Lord of the Llamas posted:That seems an odd argument given that meat and cheese aren't exactly cheap. I'm struggling to imagine how being a vegan would have to be expensive in any way? Could be many things from access to cooking options to not having enough time to shop more frequently for food that doesn't keep as long.
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If we’re going to kill millions of animals a year, the very least we could do is use all the bits of them.
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Some people are more upset at the idea of wearing animals than eating them, who knows. Haha i just looked up the documentary she recommended and it's being hammered by nutritionists for claiming, among other things, that eggs are worse for you than cigarettes and that milk causes cancer.
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Considering there's no such thing as the middle class it's fairly puzzling that's where all the vegans are...
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Smoking eggs does sound pretty bad for you.
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Thanks Ants posted:Brum nah it's like kent or essex. brum has a friendly twang which i find nicer Generic Monk fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jan 31, 2018 |
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Jan 31, 2018 18:45
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Lord of the Llamas posted:That seems an odd argument given that meat and cheese aren't exactly cheap. I'm struggling to imagine how being a vegan would have to be expensive in any way?
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I dunno where I'd start to cook if I had to cut out all animal products tbh. Meat and cheese might be pricey but not being able to use milk or animal fat in food would be a real constrictor. Definitely an investment of time there to figure out how to do it. I'd probably also develop a bunch of other dietary problems.
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sebzilla posted:Don't eat sentient beings imo Eat the rich? Wolfsbane posted:The weirdest thing about German food is that they're proud of their bread. Finally someone who gets it. I had an Austrian roommate and all the bread he bought/brought from home was nasty. MikeCrotch posted:Also another thread reminded me of an age old question: is there a worse UK accent than Nottingham? I say no, but that might be because I have to put up with it every day. Yorkshire. Praseodymi posted:Considering there's no such thing as the middle class it's fairly puzzling that's where all the vegans are... I'll have you know I'm upper-middle class if not an outright booj. I'll see myself to the wall.
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Miftan posted:Yorkshire. Yorkshire's great what're you on about? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScELaXMCVis
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I work a just over minimum wage job in London and am trying to gain muscle mass. I think I am doing okay if I eat only free range stuff.
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Coohoolin posted:Complete opposite in my experience. Almost always middle class, high prevalence of Germans and Swedes. I've also heard a lot of arguments about veganism being a form of class privilege, because being able to afford to be selective with your diet isn't in everyone's financial remit. Hear that a lot from a lot of activists, frequently from the working class ones. a good education is class privelege but that doesn't mean we should stop trying to better the systems we have. A lot of the more popular marxist writers were bouj as gently caress and some of them are actually good. I've heard that argument before and it always strikes me as a withering burn against the person saying it because it clearly requires you to not actually think about what "class privelege" means. Josef bugman posted:I work a just over minimum wage job in London and am trying to gain muscle mass. I think I am doing okay if I eat only free range stuff. m8 do you know how many calories hummus has vegans get fat if they're left alone with chickpeas too often in other news, May is refusing to help Gavin Williamson out of that little hole he dug himself by being too much of a creepy sexpest to work in the finance industry Spangly A fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Jan 31, 2018 |
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OwlFancier posted:Yorkshire's great what're you on about? I've sounded clearer than that after 10 beers. Though to be fair everything from up north is hard for me. I can only understand my partner's dad about half the time. If we're going for most annoying though, then definitely the fake-posh thing you get in the south. Spangly A posted:a good education is class privelege but that doesn't mean we should stop trying to better the systems we have. A lot of the more popular marxist writers were bouj as gently caress and some of them are actually good. Anybody who complains about not being able to go vegan on account of money is lying or hasn't thought about it at all. Meat is twice as expensive as all the popular vegan staples like rice, beans, potatoes, pasta, etc. Health reasons are a different matter which gets brought up a lot and is fair enough though.
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OwlFancier posted:I dunno where I'd start to cook if I had to cut out all animal products tbh. Meat and cheese might be pricey but not being able to use milk or animal fat in food would be a real constrictor. yeah i went vegetarian with virtually no effort on my part and i'm broke as gently caress most of the time. veganism on the other hand, while it's obviously good, would take up far too much of my time and money for me to bother with
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Generic Monk posted:yeah i went vegetarian with virtually no effort on my part and i'm broke as gently caress most of the time. veganism on the other hand, while it's obviously good, would take up far too much of my time and money for me to bother with Time, only at first. Money, definitely no. It's also a much bigger hassle if you don't make your own food (eating out or at friends) a lot of the time.
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Spangly A posted:in other news, May is refusing to help Gavin Williamson out of that little hole he dug himself by being too much of a creepy sexpest to work in the finance industry he worked at a fireplace company not a finance company fwiw. that is a gorgeous malapropism tho
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MikeCrotch posted:Veal in this country generally refers to "white veal" i.e. the one where they are confined and fed only milk. You are starting to see move towards "young beef" now which is similar to red veal in a lot of ways, I don't think its widely available though. everyone I know from Nottingham sounds sort of generic East Midlandsy, is there a real bad version I've not heard? I can't imagine how it could be that much worse than eg literally anywhere in the west midlands, northern irish, the west country, Essex or scouse, though
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What's the "fake posh" accent you get in the south? I'm only familiar with the various london accents and the BBC one. Oh and the odd lord that is nigh incomprehensible.
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Spangly A posted:a good education is class privelege but that doesn't mean we should stop trying to better the systems we have. A lot of the more popular marxist writers were bouj as gently caress and some of them are actually good. A pity that Williamson is too obviously stupid and unpleasant to take more of the government down with him. I think. I could be wrong.
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poo poo meat is very cheap, calorie efficient, widely available, and often comes in easily/quickly prepared ready-meal form - useful for people who don't have much money or time and come home knackered. It's possible to be veggie for relatively little if you know what you're doing but then you have to actually cook a lot from scratch. Veganism is a lot harder to do while maintaining a balanced diet because the majority of cheap prepared foods contain some kind of animal product, while specialist ones that don't are usually very expensive. Many milk/meat/cheese substitutes are not cheap, and are often only available in niche shops that tend to be in more affluent areas. It's probably possible to do affordably but it's not easy, and I wouldn't blame someone who's slaving away doing 12 hour days in some poo poo service job for not considering it worth it. Neither vegetarianism or veganism are inherently middle class, but many militant middle class animal rights types do not appreciate that the cost/time required makes it inaccessible for less privileged people, and get very dismissive as a result. fake edit: I think it's getting a little better these days and I certainly have noticed far more veggie/vegan stuff in normal non-poncy shops like Tesco.
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MikeCrotch posted:You can get it in Lidl and places I think but yeah, it's not what I would choose Yeah the rye bread which is like eating carpet tiles isn't great (it's actually quite pleasant if you're expecting it, but is extremely bad for making sandwiches or really anything other than just putting butter or cheese on it and then jamming it into your face) but regular bread with some rye in it is delicious. But I generally prefer coarser bread anyway, the only type of bread I really hate is the very soft, airy kind. Proper bread shouldn't get dented if you give the loaf a gentle squeeze.
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