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I honestly loved the episode. Penny is the best character anyway, so it didn't hurt to dwell with him all episode. Bonus for remembering the Mar-golem and the best scene all episode. Show needs more Josh, though.
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Feb 1, 2018 21:16
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cochise posted:That episode needed more Margo. She's the best. I would have settled for Penny inhabiting the Margolem.
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Feb 1, 2018 21:26
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That was a fun episode. Definitely helped by focusing on the most likable character. Somehow it was hilarious to see Penny realize no one loves him... or isn't sure if they do because he was always a dick.
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Feb 1, 2018 23:10
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The only thing that bothered me about the episode was Penny's weird tie knot.
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Feb 1, 2018 23:18
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Loved the ending. After a whole episode of trying to communicate and various people holding the key, the only person who didn’t know Penny was dead is like “sup dude”. And just after it was too late to deal with his body situation.
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Feb 1, 2018 23:51
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The entire cast is just so good except for Quentin.
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Feb 2, 2018 00:08
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I think it’s intentional. Quentin sucks. Season 2 opened with him racing to save his friends, selling his blood and everything. Quentin already assumed most of them were perma-dead and wasn’t even sure what he was going to do to help. He bumps into them and they’re fine, Alice fixed it, nobody is dead.
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Feb 2, 2018 00:12
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I'm just not impressed with him. In season one I expected Margot to be the worst and holy poo poo was I ever wrong.
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Feb 2, 2018 00:14
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He's very much the weak link of the show, and by now even Julia is really recovering from the mountain of trauma she suffered through and adjusting more. They seem to have leaned into that a bit and mock Q a little but like every Quentin/Alice scene is just rough. Margo and Elliot were in real danger of getting horrible for awhile in S1 but the whole Fillory thing has saved them by being the thing they both embrace as their life's meaning so they don't have to be destructive alcoholics anymore.
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Feb 2, 2018 00:19
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STAC Goat posted:they don't have to be destructive alcoholics anymore. Whoooooa. They can do both.
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Feb 2, 2018 00:37
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As long as they're doing it for fun and relaxation and not to numb the empty feeling inside them and the fear of having no idea what to do with their lives.
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Feb 2, 2018 00:40
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Only question on this episode is why they kept Julia's actual bit of magic a secret. If the ex dean knew all the school's funding and such was at stake, seems to make sense that they might as well feed the investors a tiny sliver. No big deal, just struck me as weird.
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Feb 2, 2018 01:13
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She had to hide it since she was the one who had to actually use the magic to find the key.
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Feb 2, 2018 02:05
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Also, like, this is The Magicians. There's no guarantee that a group of desperate people wouldn't try to vivisect her to work out why her magic still works.
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Feb 2, 2018 02:14
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Yeah, good points. I am naive and expect the best from people, but perhaps someone who is using the last dregs of magic to work their martini machine should not be trusted with the knowledge of a fresh source.
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Feb 2, 2018 02:27
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SLOSifl posted:Loved the ending. After a whole episode of trying to communicate and various people holding the key, the only person who didn’t know Penny was dead is like “sup dude”. And just after it was too late to deal with his body situation. I wonder if they'll just make a new fake body for him to inhabit, but without magic. Just carve it out of wood or something. A sort of Margolem-esque Penn-occhio, if you will.
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XboxPants posted:I wonder if they'll just make a new fake body for him to inhabit, but without magic. Just carve it out of wood or something. A sort of Margolem-esque Penn-occhio, if you will. Obvious solution.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Also, like, this is The Magicians. There's no guarantee that a group of desperate people wouldn't try to vivisect her to work out why her magic still works. Or that the fairies are on earth and probably now on their trail. Or the fairies in the investor's house are held there by magic and it will only be a bit of time before they're free.
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Feb 2, 2018 02:45
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XboxPants posted:Penn-occhio, if you will. 
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Feb 2, 2018 03:44
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I loved the dad ghost arguing with him that Penny was not a real name.
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NmareBfly posted:Yeah, good points. I am naive and expect the best from people, but perhaps someone who is using the last dregs of magic to work their martini machine should not be trusted with the knowledge of a fresh source. Think back a few episodes when they went looking for a god and Julia showed Josh her magic because he was depressed. Quentin said she can't do that because there would be people who would do anything to get their hands on magic again. So its probably safe to assume that they just didn't trust the random lady and maybe the Dean even advised them that they shouldn't. Or does the Dean actually know Julia can do magic? I've kind of lost track of who knows. But yeah, the fact that there were fairies in that home who saw her do magic and get the key is probably a really bad omen.
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Feb 2, 2018 04:33
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FFFUUUCCCKKK..... Last week dragged but this week was nuts.
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Feb 2, 2018 05:08
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I don't think the dean knows that Julia has magic but he knows that they have a lead on restoring it and is willing to help them.
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Feb 2, 2018 06:47
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What a great loving episode
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Yeah, I think by now the characters have all learned that people are garbage and you should never really reveal any secrets unless absolutely necessary, lest some idiot completely gently caress everything up for no reason. It's a good thing too what with the fairies and all.
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Feb 2, 2018 07:59
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Rhyno posted:The entire cast is just so good except for Quentin. The Expanse has the exact same problem, a leader who is a cat herding paladin that hates fun.
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Woden posted:The Expanse has the exact same problem, a leader who is a cat herding paladin that hates fun. Magicians seems to have figured that out this season. “As a man born in 1902, I relate with the white male protagonist,” and all. But it would be nice for them now to figure out something do with Quentin “the most useless person on this or any world” Coldwater.
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Feb 2, 2018 14:41
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Isn't that sort of the Quentin character in the books. They kind of ruined his story arch by saving Alice so early.
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Feb 2, 2018 19:09
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He can stick around, just push Elliot and Josh to the front.
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Q is a good character, he's chronically depressed. But, he's had a bad run.
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WrightOfWay posted:I don't think the dean knows that Julia has magic but he knows that they have a lead on restoring it and is willing to help them. Yeah, that's what I figured. The Dean knows this crew's history with the Chatwins and Fillory and their significance in all this, so it makes sense for him to just back them when they say they have a lead. He doesn't have a better option.
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Mortanis posted:Show needs more Josh, though. The Vagicians.
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GORDON posted:The Vagicians. Don't doxx me.
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That cliffhanger was excellent
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STAC Goat posted:He doesn't have a better option. He could get drunk.
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i can't believe some of you have watched all the way to the present but have only started to get the joke that underlies every element of Quentin's character now last episode was the best television i've seen in years
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I think everyone gets the basic idea that Quentin thinks he's the prototypical destined hero from one of his stories but he's basically just along for the ride. Getting the joke just doesn't make him any more tolerable.
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NmareBfly posted:Only question on this episode is why they kept Julia's actual bit of magic a secret. If the ex dean knew all the school's funding and such was at stake, seems to make sense that they might as well feed the investors a tiny sliver. No big deal, just struck me as weird. I agree with everyone else that in this universe if that was public knowledge there's no way she'd not be chained up in someone's basement or strapped to a medical table somewhere in 24 hours.
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SLOSifl posted:Loved the ending. After a whole episode of trying to communicate and various people holding the key, the only person who didn’t know Penny was dead is like “sup dude”. And just after it was too late to deal with his body situation. The show knew precisely when to cut. Ending the episode right there was a great punchline. ED: I bet he ends up with a golem body.
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