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Macaluso posted:I looked through the patches, I guess they do both tuesday and thursday. I'd love to know what decides which day Kaplan has a very serious, ceremonious coin flipping, in which no one is allowed to speak. It is lit by candles and everyone wears robes. And by everyone I mean just Kaplan. Everyone knows better than to question it or interrupt it.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:you realize zen exists, who is a support that can consistently dish out as much more more damage than DPS characters? Zen also has to know how to aim, doesn't have a stupid ability that can bounce around corners and shave off your health/potentially kill you without him even having to see you (sounds familiar), and has no good escape options. Not a really good comparison. Oh yeah he also can't heal himself.
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Feb 2, 2018 02:18
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if moira is so op I highly suggest you main her for a while and reap the sweet SRs and wins.
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Feb 2, 2018 02:27
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Constantine XI posted:Zen also has to know how to aim, doesn't have a stupid ability that can bounce around corners and shave off your health/potentially kill you without him even having to see you (sounds familiar), and has no good escape options. Not a really good comparison. Oh yeah he also can't heal himself.
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Feb 2, 2018 02:40
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There's this translocator throw on hanamura point A this one guy does I absolutely must learn even if I am bad at Sombra. Through the sniper perch and directly onto the upper level of the temple.
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Feb 2, 2018 03:11
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So glad next week is Year of the Dog so capture the flag can return. I hate how it almost never shows up in rotating arcade, yet Low Gravity is there every three days.
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Feb 2, 2018 03:51
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Feb 2, 2018 03:53
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Constantine XI posted:Oh yeah he also can't heal himself. He has 150 regenerating hp, you literally only need to hide for like 2 seconds to heal to full.
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Feb 2, 2018 03:57
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Manatee Cannon posted:I wonder if they intentionally hold off on arcade modes that are part of events when those events are about to go live Possible. It popped up again in December maybe twice, which again stuff like Low Gravity and Single Dual appear like every four days.
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When does the blizzard world update end? Want to get the skins at the last second.
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Feb 2, 2018 05:54
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The skins from Blizzard World update are all in the normal pool of skins so come out of just regular loot boxes and the legendaries are only 1000 overbucks Unless I am misunderstanding your question?
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Mister Fister posted:When does the blizzard world update end? Want to get the skins at the last second. The Blizzard World stuff is permanent
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EMC posted:The skins from Blizzard World update are all in the normal pool of skins so come out of just regular loot boxes and the legendaries are only 1000 overbucks Macaluso posted:The Blizzard World stuff is permanent Ah thanks guys. Guess i'll just play too much for random loot boxes then and cross my fingers 
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Moira healing is fine except when you’re trying to heal a large pool tank by yourself and you both just stand there for 10 seconds while you spray whiz all over them.
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Montalvo posted:Whether or not you have fun playing as Mercy is entirely subjective. Many people find her to be the most entertaining hero in the game. Your perception that she's a low skill hero is objectively wrong though, sorry. She's an easy hero to pick up, but there's a lot that separates a good Mercy from a bad one. See that latter part I bolded? That is true of every single hero in the game. Some aren't as easy to pick up, but they all have things that a good player can better exploit than a bad player. Of course they do. That being said, there is absolutely no loving way that playing maximally as Mercy is as demanding skill-wise as Ana, Lucio, or even Zen. Mercy is easy. I'm not even making GBS threads on Mercy or Mercy players here, despite what it looks like--I just don't like that a character I find utterly unfun to play has heretofore been essentially required because she was simply too good to leave out, and I was more often than not the one expected to play her because I tend to play support. I like playing Zen (and Ana even though I'm horrible as her). I do not enjoy Mercy in the least, yet I was forced to play as her because nobody else on my team would go support. Now I can play Zen and pop heads with my balls and not get poo poo on for not playing Mercy. resistentialism posted:Not every hero has to be mechanically taxing, but mercy is too simple and too boring to be a tip-top-tier must-pick. IMO it's a real drag on a game with 6 player teams. Bingo. Imagine being one of the best players in the entire world and you're stuck playing Mercy. Good god, that must be maddening.
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Dick Burglar posted:See that latter part I bolded? That is true of every single hero in the game. Some aren't as easy to pick up, but they all have things that a good player can better exploit than a bad player. Of course they do. That being said, there is absolutely no loving way that playing maximally as Mercy is as demanding skill-wise as Ana, Lucio, or even Zen. Mercy is easy. I'm not even making GBS threads on Mercy or Mercy players here, despite what it looks like--I just don't like that a character I find utterly unfun to play has heretofore been essentially required because she was simply too good to leave out, and I was more often than not the one expected to play her because I tend to play support. I like playing Zen (and Ana even though I'm horrible as her). I do not enjoy Mercy in the least, yet I was forced to play as her because nobody else on my team would go support. Now I can play Zen and pop heads with my balls and not get poo poo on for not playing Mercy. Speaking as a dude who did TF2 scrims as medic, and now primarily plays Zen, this poo poo hits way too close to home.
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I don't feel like Moira is overpowered, but she punishes low skill hard, in that if you can't hit her while she bounces around she's going to murder you, similar to Symmetra but with less damage and more healing. She's also hard to heal effectively with because even after two dozen games or so I still have no idea what the range on the spray is (wiki says it's 15 meters but it feels more like 5) and you really can't waste any of it. There's also basically zero feedback for if you're healing anything.
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Thoughtless posted:I don't feel like Moira is overpowered, but she punishes low skill hard, in that if you can't hit her while she bounces around she's going to murder you, similar to Symmetra but with less damage and more healing. Yeah, it would be nice if they had more of a shiny piss glow from at least her perspective. There is a faint sparkle, but you need to be close to see it,
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Shnag posted:Yeah, it would be nice if they had more of a shiny piss glow from at least her perspective. There is a faint sparkle, but you need to be close to see it, Really needs a clearer audio cue as well.
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Feb 2, 2018 14:53
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yeah, record gargling noises from each of the voice actors. this is my fetish.
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I was thinking of the soothing sound of
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Dick Burglar posted:See that latter part I bolded? That is true of every single hero in the game. Some aren't as easy to pick up, but they all have things that a good player can better exploit than a bad player. Of course they do. That being said, there is absolutely no loving way that playing maximally as Mercy is as demanding skill-wise as Ana, Lucio, or even Zen. Mercy is easy. I'm not even making GBS threads on Mercy or Mercy players here, despite what it looks like--I just don't like that a character I find utterly unfun to play has heretofore been essentially required because she was simply too good to leave out, and I was more often than not the one expected to play her because I tend to play support. I like playing Zen (and Ana even though I'm horrible as her). I do not enjoy Mercy in the least, yet I was forced to play as her because nobody else on my team would go support. Now I can play Zen and pop heads with my balls and not get poo poo on for not playing Mercy. Yeah, these are all very fair points and I understand where you're coming from. I guess I'm at the opposite end of this, where Overwatch is the first (and only) shooter I've played because Mercy made it accessible to me (and I found her primary gameplay mechanic to be fun); so now I'm in a weird spot where I have to figure out how I can keep playing this game while having fun.
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Despite a lot of the vitriol, I think when you get past the high emotions, people don't necessarily want Mercy down in the dirt; they just want Mercy to be a viable option among other viable options. For months, every other support has suffered because irrespective of their individual balance, they all carried the heavy opportunity cost of Not Being Mercy. If she finally comes down to the point where it feels okay to have her, and feels just as okay to have an Ana or Lucio instead, then that's the ideal.
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Montalvo posted:Yeah, these are all very fair points and I understand where you're coming from. I guess I'm at the opposite end of this, where Overwatch is the first (and only) shooter I've played because Mercy made it accessible to me (and I found her primary gameplay mechanic to be fun); so now I'm in a weird spot where I have to figure out how I can keep playing this game while having fun. Mercy is absolutely still a viable pick. She's just not a must-pick, which is a good change. The res change means you actually have to be smart about who and when you res. I'm glad for the nerf because it means I can go back to my first love, Mr Robomonk, and not get dumped on because "the Mercy main" isn't playing Mercy. Speaking of Mercy changes, I vaguely recall something about having to face your target when resing - did that not make it in? I've found it super effective to start a res, spin around and fly to a far off teammate immediately after it completes. It seems to still work, which is great.
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If this change makes Mercy worthless (it won't) they will absolutely buff her again. There is a future for Mercy mains.
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Supercar Gautier posted:want Mercy down in the dirt 
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Cowcaster posted:yeah, record gargling noises from each of the voice actors. this is my fetish. Or R. Kelly song clips play softly when you hit. . .
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Clanpot Shake posted:Mercy is absolutely still a viable pick. She's just not a must-pick, which is a good change. The res change means you actually have to be smart about who and when you res. I'm glad for the nerf because it means I can go back to my first love, Mr Robomonk, and not get dumped on because "the Mercy main" isn't playing Mercy. Oh, I didn't mean to imply that she isn't viable -- the changes just make her a lot more boring to play. I'm going to work on playing as tanks.
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I don't see why the knee jerk reaction to this round of nerfs is "SHES WORTHLESS NOW" when all they did was change Valk a bit. Her ult was just cheese on the meat which is, "Best single target throughput heal, Best Mobility, and can pick up a pick once every thirty seconds." I mean, yea Mercy can't fly around in her ult like a really annoying fly that instantly undoes the last team fight, but she still has her AOE heal/damage buff which is still not inconsiderable. At the higher levels I believe you won't still see Lucio outside of the odd control point map and 3/4 tank lineups, you won't see Ana, and you won't see Moira outside of 3/4 tank lineups, but at least it won't be crushing if a support player wants to play any of the above instead of Mercy, if the opponents pick mercy.
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I've ended up playing a good amount of Mercy because I'm the guy that can't just slam a 6th DPS with the rest of quickplay. I am fine with them toning down her abilities so that she isn't a must-pick or dominant in all games; I'd be much happier to see other supports played equally - and to have more choices when I'm stuck being the only support! But if they successfully bring her support kit in line with the rest of the lineup, I really wish they would give her something to do besides healing. All the other healers can do damage at the same time they are healing, and many of them get some interesting offense to play with (Lucio can boop people, Anna can sleep people, Moira can bounce orbs out of LOS, Zenyatta can charge his orb shot). Mercy basically just heals and boosts, and has to abandon all her support elements to actually shoot someone. I'd rather that they put her healing in line with the other supports and let her have access to simultaneous damage. Please go ahead and kill resurrect in exchange.
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mercy has always been the most boring character to play in the game regardless of where she's fit in the meta, by design
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Cowcaster posted:mercy has always been the most boring character to play in the game regardless of where she's fit in the meta, by design Tooooooorbjoooooornnn. Torb is who I play when I don’t want to play very hard.
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Cowcaster posted:mercy has always been the most boring character to play in the game regardless of where she's fit in the meta, by design And in that she has a valuable role for anyone who isn’t entrenched enough in the game to post in a thread like this
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AlternateAccount posted:Tooooooorbjoooooornnn. get out from behind your turret and shoot some people with rivets lazybones
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Bastion is probably more boring. Just sit in turret mode hoping someone didn't notice you and kill them....then die the moment someone counters you.
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yeah bastion's probably in second place there, but again mostly by design
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Cowcaster posted:get out from behind your turret and shoot some people with rivets lazybones yeah this if Torbjorn is boring to play then you're playing him wrong
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Rirse posted:Bastion is probably more boring. Just sit in turret mode hoping someone didn't notice you and kill them....then die the moment someone counters you. this is like 1000% the least fun and entirely wrong way of playing bastion ever
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you should be straight team wiping the enemies as bastion at least once a game or you're doing a bunch of things wildly wrong SHOOT N SCOOT, SHOOT N SCOOT, SHOOT N SCOOT
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Herstory Begins Now posted:you should be straight team wiping the enemies as bastion at least once a game or you're doing a bunch of things wildly wrong Reminds me of my favorite game I played as Bastion. It was Volskya defense second point. There was a Rein on my team that knew what was up and he lead me around so I can get a few easy kills then retreat. Bastion and Rein/Orisa make a great team.
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