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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
hands off my strawberries

https://twitter.com/27khv/status/958801539166031877

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GoluboiOgon
Aug 19, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

quote:

Forbes' list of the top 100 richest communists

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



woah they didnt run zyuganov again??

grudinin is the head of this, which is pretty interesting: https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2017/0906/In-capitalist-Russia-a-socialist-garden-flourishes

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

always thought this anecdote from his wiki was funny

quote:

Following the 2012 U.S. consulate attacks in Benghazi, Zyuganov generated controversy after a comment he made on Chris Stevens' death at the hands of armed militants in Libya by saying that U.S. ambassador was "shot like a dog" ("был убит как последняя собака"). This caused an outrage from the U.S. State Department. S. Obuhov, the press-secretary to the Russian Duma, responded: "Zyuganov meant 'the last dog' as a Russian proverb and not in the sense that it sounds in English. 'The last' represents a Russian hard-to-translate idiom, not in a negative but in a positive sense," explaining the faux pas as a colloquialism lost in translation.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

woah they didnt run zyuganov again??

grudinin is the head of this, which is pretty interesting: https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2017/0906/In-capitalist-Russia-a-socialist-garden-flourishes
yeah they finally got rid of that old dinosaur. that guy had held on like brezhnev.

the lenin sovkhoz is like a co-op. one of their big products is strawberries so that's why i call grudinin the communist strawberry man.



wanna pick and eat strawberries w/ grudinin :kimchi:

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Jan 31, 2018

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGC3uJadXh0&t=215s

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015



Thats some good ziz

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Frankly, I'd enjoy seeing Red Kahina being put on the national stage

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
he is much better when speaking serbo-croatian (i think)

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Q6_uxlItc&t=4208s

This is one of my favorite Zizek lectures.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

MizPiz posted:

Frankly, I'd enjoy seeing Red Kahina being put on the national stage

not a national stage but it is a stage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tt8zpTwFSk

edit: ^^ lol and she's talking about zizek

Karl Barks fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Jan 31, 2018

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
choose your fighter but it's red kahina and zizek

and turing police and phil greaves and i dunno some DSAer

The Kingfish posted:


This is one of my favorite Zizek lectures.
bookmarked

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Its from an earlier date so he tries much harder to stay on topic.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Karl Barks posted:

harvard basically pulled the same stunt recently. there was also a huge campaign headed by like 2 students that was super anti-union. they seemed to even have funding for their efforts, which made me think it was astro turfed.

the odds of that are somewhere between 100 and 101 percent.

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
Anybody have advice on dealing with “wrecker” behavior? Dealing with some real toxic people in one of my organizations - people delivering ultimatums that other people resign and such (while eschewing the org’s disciplinary process and refusing to engage in mediation).

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:

Anybody have advice on dealing with “wrecker” behavior? Dealing with some real toxic people in one of my organizations - people delivering ultimatums that other people resign and such (while eschewing the org’s disciplinary process and refusing to engage in mediation).
https://www.iww.org/guides/branch/collapse

Kudaros
Jun 23, 2006

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:

Anybody have advice on dealing with “wrecker” behavior? Dealing with some real toxic people in one of my organizations - people delivering ultimatums that other people resign and such (while eschewing the org’s disciplinary process and refusing to engage in mediation).

We recently isolated and ostracized a few people like this. It was a self-purge. Owns.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:

Anybody have advice on dealing with “wrecker” behavior? Dealing with some real toxic people in one of my organizations - people delivering ultimatums that other people resign and such (while eschewing the org’s disciplinary process and refusing to engage in mediation).

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/959243646011887617
nuclear physicist who struggled with depression

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Rip.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
lmao

https://twitter.com/BLACKMESSlAH/status/959476470765715456

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981


Virtual reality books are next

GoluboiOgon
Aug 19, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

quote:

The leader of the “Communists of Russia” party — not to be confused with Zyuganov’s “the Communist Party of the Russian Federation” — is campaigning under the “10 Stalinist Strikes on Capitalism and American Imperialism” platform.

In addition to establishing a Warsaw Pact-style defense alliance and restoring a Soviet socialist “Union State,” Suraikin wants to raise the minimum wage to 70,000 rubles ($1,200) and pensions to 40,000 rubles ($700).

Suraikin, 39, submitted his candidacy papers to the Central Election Commission.

Even the russian communist party has tankies.

you can see him in action here, arguing about keeping a statue of lenin. i love his tiepin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWol2fAhtAo&t=136s

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
lol their videos are pretty lit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GW-ukecTOk

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Feb 2, 2018

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubfT-aq6gMM

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



:ussr:

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981


:captainpop:

GoluboiOgon
Aug 19, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

first line of this is:

quote:

communists of russia, not the kprf [communist party of the russian federation]!

love to start of my tribute to the party with infighting.

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!




That's a lot of words and none of them are capitalism <:mad:>

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Ruzihm posted:



That's a lot of words and none of them are capitalism <:mad:>

I think it's important for capitalism to have these tech utopians. After all, why do you need socialism when the singularity is right around the corner?

It's a pretty good way to keep nerds complacent, and it helps that the tech prophets are true believers. (IE: Peter Thiel's vampire tendency's, Musk's Rockabillies on Mars, Kurzweil's thousand vitamin diet)

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

humanity will never actually achieve real socialism, let alone communism

when it comes, if it does, it will be under the guidance of our AI descendants

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Wheeee posted:

humanity will never actually achieve real socialism, let alone communism

when it comes, if it does, it will be under the guidance of our AI descendants

It will also never achieve the singularity hth

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
But then again that's a given, since "the singularity" might as well be the nerd rapture. It's not an actual thing that can be achieved, in real terms.

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

im not talking about the singularity so much as the inevitability that we’re going to continue developing machine learning to the point that ceding control of complex large scale systems to AI will be made necessary

we’re only a handful of years away from the white collar skilled labour force being made obsolete by automation; the tech utopia idealism of the singularity crowd is wrong, but AI in some form is coming and it’s going to be the greatest disruption in modern history

for better or for worse

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE
tfw white feminism

https://twitter.com/OMIEVORE/status/959269564038172672

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
does the left in Russia have any kind of power at all? have the events of 2016 and onwards mobilized them relative to UK Labour or the DSA?

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Wheeee posted:

im not talking about the singularity so much as the inevitability that we’re going to continue developing machine learning to the point that ceding control of complex large scale systems to AI will be made necessary

we’re only a handful of years away from the white collar skilled labour force being made obsolete by automation; the tech utopia idealism of the singularity crowd is wrong, but AI in some form is coming and it’s going to be the greatest disruption in modern history

for better or for worse

I really doubt ai, atleast in the sci-fi sapient sense, is coming within our lifetimes, if it's possible at all. If you are simply talking about a system complex enough for widespread automation, again I doubt it will shake out exactly how your imagining. If only because it's cheaper to run people ragged for min wage and no benefits than to out and out automate them en masse. Machines, especially complex robotics, are more expensive than wageslaves. Capitalism always prioritizes profitability over efficiency. At the end of the day, you're gonna need consumers to buy commodities, so you're gonna need people in the workforce.

Automation works as a threat to labor, not as a replacement.

GoluboiOgon
Aug 19, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

gradenko_2000 posted:

does the left in Russia have any kind of power at all? have the events of 2016 and onwards mobilized them relative to UK Labour or the DSA?

the left has no real political power now in russia. putin is projected to win 70% of the vote in 2018 with 70% of the turnout (and given the prevalence of election fraud, that is likely to happen). the communist party of the russian federation is expected to come in second with 5% of the vote. the communist parties have a long history of being controlled opposition in putin's russia, so they are usually very careful in their critiques of the government except when it comes to the removal of statues of lenin. i dont't know if there are any grassroots style campaigns like the DSA.

otoh, something like 70% of russians think that the breakup of the ussr was a mistake.

also, 2016 wasn't a huge shock in russia like in the us or the uk. both brexit and trump's election were praised as positive things in the russian press and didn't really effect the russia much in the grand scheme of things.

GoluboiOgon fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Feb 3, 2018

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
From my understanding the closest thing to a russian DSA is the Russian Socialist Movement - read their 2013 statement on the Navalny protests here in English at n+1. Their site is http://anticapitalist.ru but I do not read Russian.

According to what I’ve heard they are a minuscule group and rooted in academia.

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Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

GoluboiOgon posted:

otoh, something like 70% of russians think that the breakup of the ussr was a mistake.

times are worse, will always be worse, is russian way

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