Coding Horrors: You can gather all your technical debt into one easy framework!

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necrotic: Aug 2, 2005; I owe my brother big time for this!

xtal posted:

I wait to tell people I use Haskell until it's required

There was no need just now :confused:

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VikingofRock: Aug 24, 2008

necrotic posted:

There was no need just now

The Church of Haskell (purity be upon Him) demanded that post!

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brap: Aug 23, 2004; Grimey Drawer

Curry be upon Him.

# ? Feb 3, 2018 19:45

LOOK I AM A TURTLE: May 22, 2003; "I'm actually a tortoise."; Grimey Drawer

In >>= we trust

# ? Feb 3, 2018 22:38

NihilCredo: Jun 6, 2011; iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

VikingofRock posted:

The Church of Haskell

Not to be confused with Alonzo's Curry

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Carbon dioxide: Oct 9, 2012

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QuarkJets: Sep 8, 2008

did the fortran logo just get covered up by haskell?

# ? Feb 4, 2018 12:20

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

I see no C++. :colbert:

# ? Feb 4, 2018 15:12

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

What the hell is a goth jock? :confused:

# ? Feb 4, 2018 16:51

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Absurd Alhazred posted:

What the hell is a goth jock?

They sack Rome and shove the senators into lockers

# ? Feb 4, 2018 16:55

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

Absurd Alhazred posted:

What the hell is a goth jock?

http://www.wikihow.com/Be-Joth

# ? Feb 4, 2018 17:44

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

Suspicious Dish posted:

http://www.wikihow.com/Be-Joth

WikiHow was a mistake.

# ? Feb 4, 2018 17:46

Workaday Wizard: Oct 23, 2009; by Pragmatica

How to Be Wrong

# ? Feb 4, 2018 18:13

VikingofRock: Aug 24, 2008

Absurd Alhazred posted:

WikiHow was a mistake.

We were so preoccupied browsing WikiHow, we never stopped to think if we should browse WikiShould.

# ? Feb 4, 2018 19:17

Thermopyle: Jul 1, 2003; ...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. �Bertrand Russell

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

How to Be Wrong

Jokes' on you, anchor tags on SA don't work in Chrome, so that just takes me to your post.

# ? Feb 4, 2018 19:19

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

Thermopyle posted:

Jokes' on you, anchor tags on SA don't work in Chrome, so that just takes me to your post.

i'm using Firefox

# ? Feb 4, 2018 19:30

NihilCredo: Jun 6, 2011; iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Absurd Alhazred posted:

WikiHow was a mistake.

(courtesy of https://www.reddit.com/r/disneyvacation/top/?sort=top&t=all)

# ? Feb 4, 2018 20:59

zergstain: Dec 15, 2005

I have to ask, what's that blue and green one in the goth/nerd quadrant?

# ? Feb 4, 2018 21:41

vOv: Feb 8, 2014

zergstain posted:

I have to ask, what's that blue and green one in the goth/nerd quadrant?

Clojure.

# ? Feb 4, 2018 21:45

Votlook: Aug 20, 2005

zergstain posted:

I have to ask, what's that blue and green one in the goth/nerd quadrant?

Clojure

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feedmegin: Jul 30, 2008

Votlook posted:

Clojure

Looks like a tasty Tide pod

# ? Feb 4, 2018 22:38

bob dobbs is dead: Oct 8, 2017; I love peeps; Nap Ghost

the question goes: why the gently caress is the art style so... horrifically uniform in wikihow?

# ? Feb 5, 2018 08:37

Hammerite: Mar 9, 2007; And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.; Jade Ear Joe

NihilCredo posted:

Please don't post pics of me at work

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dis astranagant: Dec 14, 2006

bob dobbs is dead posted:

the question goes: why the gently caress is the art style so... horrifically uniform in wikihow?

One absurdly prolific low rent ~~artist~~sweatshop with over 2 million submissions.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 11:31

Happy Thread: Jul 10, 2005; by Fluffdaddy; Plaster Town Cop

dis astranagant posted:

One absurdly prolific low rent ~~artist~~sweatshop with over 2 million submissions.

Who pays for it and why???

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QuarkJets: Sep 8, 2008

Hammerite posted:

Please don't post pics of me at work

which one of those ladies gave you that nice hat?

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:44

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

Just got tripped up because apparently Groovy's == operator uses compareTo(), if it exists, before trying equals(), which is just as well, because this is what Foo.equals() looks like:

code:

    @Override
    public boolean equals(Object other) {
        boolean result = false;
        if (other instanceof Foo) {
            Foo that = (Foo) other;
            result = (this.id?.equals(that.id) && super.equals(that));
        }
        return result;
    }

Note that the Foo class doesn't explicitly extend anything, so that super.equals(that) call goes to Java's Object.equals() implementation, which returns true iff you pass it the same exact object. So that kind of defeats the purpose of checking the id field first!

# ? Feb 5, 2018 23:05

Hammerite: Mar 9, 2007; And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.; Jade Ear Joe

QuarkJets posted:

which one of those ladies gave you that nice hat?

I can't remember, I get so much attention it all kind of blurs together. Of course as you can see from the photo they were all super into me

# ? Feb 6, 2018 09:56

duz: Jul 11, 2005; Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost

Dumb Lowtax posted:

Who pays for it and why???

The company that owns wikihow, it's their differentiator. They farm out the artwork to south east Asia. That's why all the drawings are either tracings of stock photos or of people who would look Asian if the drawing skill was better.

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Volguus: Mar 3, 2009

CPColin posted:

Just got tripped up because apparently Groovy's == operator uses compareTo(), if it exists, before trying equals(), which is just as well, because this is what Foo.equals() looks like:
code:
    @Override
    public boolean equals(Object other) {
        boolean result = false;
        if (other instanceof Foo) {
            Foo that = (Foo) other;
            result = (this.id?.equals(that.id) && super.equals(that));
        }
        return result;
    }
Note that the Foo class doesn't explicitly extend anything, so that super.equals(that) call goes to Java's Object.equals() implementation, which returns true iff you pass it the same exact object. So that kind of defeats the purpose of checking the id field first!

That's a bad equals implementation. Object pointer comparison should have been done at the start of the method and definitely not included in the id comparison line.

# ? Feb 6, 2018 22:08

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

Volguus posted:

That's a bad equals implementation. Object pointer comparison should have been done at the start of the method and definitely not included in the id comparison line.

It also needs to be an OR instead of an AND. Right now, if it's not the exact same object, it'll never be equal, making the rest of the logic pointless. It gets worse:

code:

    @Override
    public boolean equals(Object other) {
        boolean result = false;
        if (other instanceof Bar) {
            Bar that = (Bar) other;
            result = (this.toString().equals(that.toString()) && super.equals(that));
        }
        return result;
    }

This class, at least, has a consistent (although dumb) implementation of hashCode() because it just returns this.toString().hashCode(). Its implementation of compareTo() is still wrong, though, because it compares only one field, while toString() contains all the fields.

Best part is writing unit tests that verify the broken behavior, for now, because it'd be silly to start fixing bugs while writing the initial test coverage of this code!

Edit: I made a utility that verifies compareTo(), equals(), and hashCode() are all consistent with themselves and each other and can't wait to unleash it!

CPColin fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Feb 8, 2018

# ? Feb 7, 2018 18:01

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

i swear i posted this startup in here before but just

this whole idea. i do not like it

https://stdlib.com/

# ? Feb 9, 2018 06:07

Winter Stormer: Oct 17, 2012

Suspicious Dish posted:

i swear i posted this startup in here before but just

this whole idea. i do not like it

https://stdlib.com/

I can't even tell what they're trying to sell me, but I'm just a humble country C++ dev

# ? Feb 9, 2018 06:24

ynohtna: Feb 16, 2007; backwoods compatible; Illegal Hen

Finally, a service that will solve my ever-present nagging requirement to, uh, onboard external developers into my ecosystem with a single click!

# ? Feb 9, 2018 06:36

b0lt: Apr 29, 2005

Suspicious Dish posted:

i swear i posted this startup in here before but just

this whole idea. i do not like it

https://stdlib.com/

left-pad as a service

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Qwertycoatl: Dec 31, 2008

https://twitter.com/jckarter/status/961646984070180864

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nielsm: Jun 1, 2009

Qwertycoatl posted:

C++ code:

void foo(int a, int b, int c, int d, int e, int f);

void bar(int x) {
    switch (x)
      foo(({case 0:; 0; }),
          ({case 1:; 1; }),
          ({case 2:; 2; }),
          ({case 3:; 3; }),
          ({case 4:; 4; }),
          ({case 5:; 5; }));
}

Why is that syntax legal at all?

# ? Feb 9, 2018 09:35

Zopotantor: Feb 24, 2013; ...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

nielsm posted:

Why is that syntax legal at all?

I sincerely hope it isn't, and that's just a compiler bug. :eng99:

e: As far as I can tell, labels (including case and default) can only appear before a statement, not inside an expression. So it's a bug.

Zopotantor fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Feb 9, 2018

# ? Feb 9, 2018 09:49

Harik: Sep 9, 2001; From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars; Plaster Town Cop

Zopotantor posted:

I sincerely hope it isn't, and that's just a compiler bug.

e: As far as I can tell, labels (including case and default) can only appear before a statement, not inside an expression. So it's a bug.

GCC says "error: switch jumps into statement expression".

How did someone even come up with that?

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Qwertycoatl: Dec 31, 2008

Statement expressions are an extension that clang and gcc both support. gcc is sensible enough not to let you jump into one.

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