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SadisTech posted:to be fair ulting Moira isn't keeping anybody healed if they're getting focused by more than one person Isn't convalescence 140health/sec?
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All i know is that Coalescence is "gently caress i can't loving see" whenever it's aimed anywhere in my general direction.
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Feb 5, 2018 10:42
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hobbesmaster posted:Isn't convalescence 140health/sec? it's good for genji/Winston/roadhog ults sometimes pharah, basically anything where a few seconds of health cushion is really helpful
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Feb 5, 2018 12:21
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What if instead of games played or won lootboxes were bought with gold/silver medals earned in matches you play to completion? That way everyone does their best.
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Feb 5, 2018 12:24
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Rirse posted:Man I never really noticed how much a Genji and Moira ulting at the same time (I was Moira) is a very scary combo. Since she can blast the enemies while damaging them and keeping Genji healed so he just rampages through them rapidly. also its a lot harder to see Genji coming with a hose of a piss in your eyes
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Feb 5, 2018 13:41
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There are other bad ults in the game but Moira’s is easily the most boring now
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Feb 5, 2018 15:11
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Sometimes I wish I could cancel her ult in the middle when I really need to throw out pee ball + spray to keep someone alive bc kamehameha doesnt heal enuff 😐
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Feb 5, 2018 15:30
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Bust Rodd posted:There are other bad ults in the game but Moira’s is easily the most boring now If the kamehameha is boring you, you're not doing enough with it.
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Feb 5, 2018 16:00
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Bust Rodd posted:There are other bad ults in the game but Moira’s is easily the most boring now yeah but the rest of her kit is really fun so it's b a l a n c e d
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Feb 5, 2018 16:00
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Naerasa posted:If the kamehameha is boring you, you're not doing enough with it. Perry Mason Jar posted:yeah but the rest of her kit is really fun so it's b a l a n c e d That’s my issue, Moira seems extremely powerful based on her regular kit and then her ult is like a weird (but objectively stronger) Pharah Ult, which was the previous worst Ult, IMO
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Feb 5, 2018 16:05
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Perry Mason Jar posted:yeah but the rest of her kit is really fun so it's b a l a n c e d Except the Kamehameha is also really fun.
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Feb 5, 2018 16:07
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moira is extremely fun, i am so glad i am not forced into picking mercy every loving match went up like 150 SR yesterday slam picking moira 
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Feb 5, 2018 16:11
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Moira's ult works a lot better when I throw one of her deathballs out first then ult, as they do enough damage to start killing tanks.
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Feb 5, 2018 16:12
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Moira is probably the best designed (mechanically that is) character out of everyone in the game. And that's pre and post release characters.
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Feb 5, 2018 16:22
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Kokoro Wish posted:Moira is probably the best designed (mechanically that is) character out of everyone in the game. And that's pre and post release characters. Agree. The only thing she was lacking when she first came out that thankfully was patched was her inability to hurt turrets outside of her ult. That really sucked if I played her in deathmatch and Tjoborn was there.
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Feb 5, 2018 16:27
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black.lion posted:Sometimes I wish I could cancel her ult in the middle when I really need to throw out pee ball + spray to keep someone alive bc kamehameha doesnt heal enuff 😐 Left click is 80hps and org is 75hps (up to 300) versus 140hps per target for kamehama. I don’t see why you’d want to cancel it?
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Feb 5, 2018 16:42
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Kokoro Wish posted:Moira is probably the best designed (mechanically that is) character out of everyone in the game. And that's pre and post release characters. Reinhardt would be for me- seems really fair and balanced. Every time he kills me, its like "that's fair, I probably deserved that".
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Feb 5, 2018 16:43
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Reiley posted:What if instead of games played or won lootboxes were bought with gold/silver medals earned in matches you play to completion? That way everyone does their best. Medals don’t straight correlate to contribution on a team so it would be bad
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Feb 5, 2018 16:51
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Also Moira’s ult is really good for it’s optimal use: picking off wounded and weak units and finishing off healers and other low health units through barriers
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Feb 5, 2018 16:52
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tracer's the best one and the only hero that's not been changed at all since beta, at least as far as I can remember
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Feb 5, 2018 17:00
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Astrochicken posted:im still going through the 5 stages of grief from the one time a hanzo one shot my orisa. I don't understand why it's SO loving HARD to put a line into the code somewhere that says HEY, NO ONE TAKES MORE THAN 200 DAMAGE FROM SCATTER ARROW. TheKingofSprings posted:Also Moira’s ult is really good for it’s optimal use: picking off wounded and weak units and finishing off healers and other low health units through barriers It's fine for guaranteeing a win on a team fight that's a little wobbly. Being able to beam through shields and get Zen/Mercy/Ana other squishies to basically guarantee a victory is... okay, I guess... Manatee Cannon posted:tracer's the best one and the only hero that's not been changed at all since beta, at least as far as I can remember 99/100 Tracers are trash who just "harass" a backline, feeding ult while never getting any picks, and then throw their ult on one person to get a kill and pat themselves on the back IM CONTRIBUTING.
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Feb 5, 2018 17:12
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AlternateAccount posted:99/100 Tracers are trash who just "harass" a backline, feeding ult while never getting any picks, and then throw their ult on one person to get a kill and pat themselves on the back IM CONTRIBUTING. I'm feeling pretty attacked right now.
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Feb 5, 2018 17:28
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hobbesmaster posted:Left click is 80hps and org is 75hps (up to 300) versus 140hps per target for kamehama. I don’t see why you’d want to cancel it? It disables fade and sometimes i'd really like to be able to fade out of certain death highmodulus posted:Reinhardt would be for me- seems really fair and balanced. Every time he kills me, its like "that's fair, I probably deserved that". Sometimes i get hit by some ridiculous bullshit shatters though dogstile fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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Feb 5, 2018 17:34
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dogstile posted:It disables fade and sometimes i'd really like to be able to fade out of certain death
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Feb 5, 2018 17:39
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dogstile posted:It disables fade and sometimes i'd really like to be able to fade out of certain death I agree, it's frustrating as poo poo, but lore-wise maybe it makes sense that she's just dumping the poo poo out all uncontrolled and it has to empty out. Pharah can't turn her rockets off early either :\ AlternateAccount fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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Feb 5, 2018 17:40
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dogstile posted:It disables fade and sometimes i'd really like to be able to fade out of certain death agreed, though i do sort of like the fact that this is part of the decision-making process when you have your ult "do i have enough time to fully use this and not die like a sitting duck because of it?"
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Feb 5, 2018 17:44
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kumba posted:agreed, though i do sort of like the fact that this is part of the decision-making process when you have your ult Oh I agree, i just thought i'd explain why someone would want to get out of the ult early.
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Feb 5, 2018 18:17
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Moira's ult will pass through heroes, right? Like if I am firing through a friendly Reinhardt at idk let's say an enemy Soldier just standing there, am I healing the Rein AND damaging the Soldier? Or is it just healing the Rein and not carrying through?
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Feb 5, 2018 18:29
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It goes through everything. The selling point is that it'll do plenty of work on a mixed cluster of friendly/enemy players.
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Feb 5, 2018 18:34
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In fairness, Moira is probably overpowered right now. But I am so happy to have a healer people willingly select that I hope they leave her alone. Scatter arrow can be nerfed into the ground with impunity, not like Hanzo mains are going to switch. . . .
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Feb 5, 2018 19:32
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FAUXTON posted:Moira's ult will pass through heroes, right? Like if I am firing through a friendly Reinhardt at idk let's say an enemy Soldier just standing there, am I healing the Rein AND damaging the Soldier? Or is it just healing the Rein and not carrying through? If you line up all other 11 players it will heal each of your allies for the full amount each and do the full damage to all 6 enemies.
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Feb 5, 2018 19:58
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highmodulus posted:Reinhardt would be for me- seems really fair and balanced. Every time he kills me, its like "that's fair, I probably deserved that". I haven't seen a rein in awhile, but I swear his charge comes with a vacuum to pull me in from 5 feet away
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Feb 5, 2018 21:04
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That strange, cause everytime I play him it seems to have some sort of force field in front of it to make sure everyone is gently pushed to the side as I run past.
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Feb 5, 2018 21:14
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World Famous W posted:That strange, cause everytime I play him it seems to have some sort of force field in front of it to make sure everyone is gently pushed to the side as I run past. I can attest to being blown around by a gentle rein breeze. if no part of you is dead center you float away...but if even your PINKY TOE is dead center you get DRAGGED
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Feb 5, 2018 21:19
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Man Mystery Heroes blows when you get stuck with characters you are awful with and your team blows poo poo.
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Feb 5, 2018 21:27
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I'm kinda confused why I keep hearing Moira is overpowered. Her damage is kinda pitifully low and the only way she can increase it is by tossing out a damage ball which can be pretty easily avoided. Hell, her beam itself can't even finely target people, so if another enemy gets too close it'll swap targets as well.
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Feb 5, 2018 22:20
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DeliciousCookie posted:I'm kinda confused why I keep hearing Moira is overpowered. Her damage is kinda pitifully low and the only way she can increase it is by tossing out a damage ball which can be pretty easily avoided. Hell, her beam itself can't even finely target people, so if another enemy gets too close it'll swap targets as well. She can charge her ult in under 20 seconds. In co-ordinated play she's insanely good.
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Feb 5, 2018 22:21
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pretend her beam is zaryas beam
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Feb 5, 2018 22:22
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dogstile posted:She can charge her ult in under 20 seconds. In co-ordinated play she's insanely good. Moira is hella strong.
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Ahs, so you mean Moira's ult is strong then. Though I will say any team thats coordinated is going to generally be very good as well.
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