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I think few people are actually addicted to caffeine. It's more that people are generally grumpy in the morning and "I haven't had coffee" is a convenient excuse to make people leave you alone.
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It's okay to be an addict as long as you go to your job and pay your taxes. Being a functional Citizen is the most important thing, whatever you gotta do to get there should be fine.
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Feb 5, 2018 17:01
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Collateral Damage posted:I think few people are actually addicted to caffeine. It's more that people are generally grumpy in the morning and "I haven't had coffee" is a convenient excuse to make people leave you alone. Not in the sense of being a true addict, no. But caffeine is very dependence-forming and a lot of coffee drinkers will be experiencing withdrawal symptoms when they wake up.
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Feb 5, 2018 17:10
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Collateral Damage posted:I think few people are actually addicted to caffeine. It's more that people are generally grumpy in the morning and "I haven't had coffee" is a convenient excuse to make people leave you alone. Yeah I was going to post something like this. The "don't talk to me until I've had my coffee lol" people probably aren't addicted, they just think/act like they are because for certain types of people that's just the "in" thing to do.
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Feb 5, 2018 17:24
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mind the walrus posted:That stupid Rick & Morty quote "Come watch TV" is pretty much the best concise rebuttal society has to this stripe of adolescent nihilism. Ah yes, Rick & Morty, the cartoon show for smart people. Wubba lubba dub dub! People don't owe their abusers the time of day. If someone hurts you or is hurting you, it is perfectly fine to cut them out of your life. You don't need a reason to not want to talk or associate with someone. Nobody owes anyone sex, love, friendship, companionship, etc. And if someone gives you poo poo, to hell with 'em. If anyone has a problem with this, its because they identify with the person receiving the cold shoulder.
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Feb 5, 2018 18:30
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Blue Star posted:Everyone's racist. Racism and bigotry's been a thing all over the world, in every culture and society, since history. People have always had antipathy towards the other, people have always been xenophobic. LOL at ppl actually thinking Europe or "white people" invented that poo poo. False. Those are, in fact, exactly the things that we owe to each other and the world would be a better place if we paid the tab.
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Feb 5, 2018 19:37
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Blue Star posted:Ah yes, Rick & Morty, the cartoon show for smart people. Wubba lubba dub dub! “Posts vague generalized nihilism” <nihilism is dumb rebuttal> “Ha! I was talking about abusive relationships and you just said you supported them” <repeat until thread is locked>
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Feb 5, 2018 19:39
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fruit on the bottom posted:“Posts vague generalized nihilism” It's blue star, if they aren't posting about burps and farts it's usually this kind of crap baiting responses. They have probably posted more or less the same exact opinion at least 5 times in this thread already.
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Feb 5, 2018 19:55
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caffeine has basically 0 negative health issues apart from the withdrawal, and that's cured by more coffee No ones sucking dick for a nespresso pod
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Feb 5, 2018 19:59
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Sure, but if coffee was illegal things might be different. All drugs, selling or buying sex, whatever other vices you can think of, should be decriminalized.
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Feb 5, 2018 20:20
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Feb 5, 2018 20:28
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fruit on the bottom posted:“Posts vague generalized nihilism” I specifically pointed out that nobody owes anyone any love or affection, in my original post. Now, why would I say such a thing? Could it be because those are the things we're gaslighted into believing should be unconditional? Theyre not unconditional, they are loving conditional. But nah, i'm probably just a nihilist, thats the only possible explanation.
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Feb 5, 2018 20:31
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Blue Star posted:I specifically pointed out that nobody owes anyone any love or affection, in my original post. Now, why would I say such a thing? Could it be because those are the things we're gaslighted into believing should be unconditional? Theyre not unconditional, they are loving conditional. But nah, i'm probably just a nihilist, thats the only possible explanation. When you post exactly like a teenage nihilist don’t be surprised when that’s what people take you for. When you leave context out of your post, don’t be surprised when people don’t read it in context.
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Feb 5, 2018 20:33
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fruit on the bottom posted:When you post exactly like a teenage nihilist don’t be surprised when that’s what people take you for. When you leave context out of your post, don’t be surprised when people don’t read it in context. Shutting abusers and toxic people out of our lives is not being a teenage nihilist.
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Feb 5, 2018 20:37
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Blue Star posted:Shutting abusers and toxic people out of our lives is not being a teenage nihilist. Your original post didn’t say anything about abusers and toxic people, so it read more like “do what you want, nothing matters, and other people are not your concern under any circumstances.”
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Feb 5, 2018 20:42
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A play in 3 actsBlue Star posted:Agreed. And nerd culture is responsible for everything being remakes and reboots nowadays. Things like Star Wars became popular because they were unique and interesting and groundbreaking and innovative. But nerds have to obsess over everything so they glomp onto it and end up breaking it by focusing so much on "canon", completely ignoring things like story or themes. And they become so attached to childhood nostalgia that they dont allow their favorite things to change or evolve, only become "grittier" and "darker" so they dont feel so silly for enjoying something. That's why The Force Awakens and Rogue One had all the same Star Wars poo poo from the original movies, even the same plot in the case of TFA, but very little actually new or innovating stuff. This is also true of other franchises. I never bothered to see Jurassic World but everyone has said that its just a retread of the original Jurassic Park. The original JP is an incredible film and actually pretty good science-fiction, in my opinion. Jurassic World doesnt do anything at all that is interesting or innovative and is even pretty regressive in the way it deliberately portrays dinosaurs inaccurately (no feathers) so its not too different from JP, not too challenging to viewers who are used to scaly dinosaurs, doesnt deviate too much from peoples expecations and nostalgia. yeah I eat rear end posted:If you're going to bother to poo poo-talk a movie at least watch it first. Blue Star posted:
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lemon-lyme disease posted:Your original post didn’t say anything about abusers and toxic people, so it read more like “do what you want, nothing matters, and other people are not your concern under any circumstances.” When you see someone say "Nobody owes anyone love, you dont owe anyone your love, etc.", what can that possible be in reference to? Do you think that's something nihilists usually say? Nah. Nihilists are more like "Hur dur nothing matters so kill anyone you want and there are no morals because lol".
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Das Boo posted:Maybe let's leave that whole child porn thing illegal, tho. Yes, obviously. Things that cause direct harm to someone else without their informed consent should be illegal. Now, you can of course go down a rabbit hole of what does "informed consent" mean, and if consent is even possible in an unequal capitalist society, but the principle is simple enough. I see nihilism as acceptance that all things are subjective, we may be in a simulation or whatever, there is no way to know. It however does not follow that you need to dress in black and go kill people. That's a lazy popularized misconception about what nihilism is. doverhog has a new favorite as of 20:58 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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Blue Star posted:When you see someone say "Nobody owes anyone love, you dont owe anyone your love, etc.", what can that possible be in reference to? Do you think that's something nihilists usually say? Nah. Nihilists are more like "Hur dur nothing matters so kill anyone you want and there are no morals because lol". I never said you were a nihilist; I was just trying to help explain why other people might have interpreted it that way. “You don’t owe anybody anything and nobody owes you” is pretty devoid of nuance on its own. I don’t know what more there is to say.
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Elizabethan Error posted:A play in 3 acts I stand by my post and also my opinion that jurassic world is fun and cool even if it's not better than the first.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I stand by my post and also my opinion that jurassic world is fun and cool even if it's not better than the first. I suppose there’s an interesting debate there about whether or not you need to see something to criticize it. Normally I would say yes, but at the same time I also would agree that you could correctly accuse the next Pirates of the Carribean to be a shameless attempt to wring out whatever life is left in the franchise just by seeing it announced.
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Yeah but those were specific complaints about the content that were wrong.
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Feb 5, 2018 21:52
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah but those were specific complaints about the content that were wrong. Yeah, that specific post was bad. I just thought there might be something of value adjacent to it.
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fruit on the bottom posted:I suppose there’s an interesting debate there about whether or not you need to see something to criticize it. Normally I would say yes, but at the same time I also would agree that you could correctly accuse the next Pirates of the Carribean to be a shameless attempt to wring out whatever life is left in the franchise just by seeing it announced. Being a shameless attempt doesn't mean it's a bad movie necessarily. They managed to make a pretty good movie (the first one, at least) even if they were shamelessly capitalizing on a near-dead franchise.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Being a shameless attempt doesn't mean it's a bad movie necessarily. They managed to make a pretty good movie (the first one, at least) even if they were shamelessly capitalizing on a near-dead franchise. It was a ride before, but I always sort of considered the movie to have been what made it into a franchise, and mostly just the last two which were the cash-grabs. Although I take your point. One could probably say the same thing about Creed trying to shamelessly capitalize on the Rocky franchise, but that movie was fairly well-received IIRC.
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Solice Kirsk posted:I saw Frank Black during his retirement tour, and he made a kind of funny point about the fact that his humor relied on embellishment and mutual disdain for all politicians, and that he was retiring because satire had become reality and there was no jokes to be made because people couldn't laugh at themselves, which both sides were sliding into. I didn't know the dude from the Pixies had moved on to comedy.
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fruit on the bottom posted:One could probably say the same thing about Creed trying to shamelessly capitalize on the Rocky franchise, but that movie was fairly well-received IIRC. I haven't seen Creed, so maybe this is a dumb post to make, but if someone wants to make a boxing movie, selling it as a Rocky sequel might be the only way to get it made.
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah but those were specific complaints about the content that were wrong. What was wrong about what I said about Jurassic World? Do the dinosaurs have feathers or dont they?
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Solice Kirsk posted:I saw Frank Black during his retirement tour, and he made a kind of funny point about the fact that his humor relied on embellishment and mutual disdain for all politicians, and that he was retiring because satire had become reality and there was no jokes to be made because people couldn't laugh at themselves, which both sides were sliding into. doverhog posted:I haven't seen Creed, so maybe this is a dumb post to make, but if someone wants to make a boxing movie, selling it as a Rocky sequel might be the only way to get it made.
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doverhog posted:I haven't seen Creed, so maybe this is a dumb post to make, but if someone wants to make a boxing movie, selling it as a Rocky sequel might be the only way to get it made. They actually did something really smart and revisited the roots of the franchise. The main character is the out-of-wedlock son of Apollo Creed and the stakes are much more personal, with Creed trying to live up to his father’s legacy and prove his worth rather than the victory itself, and Rocky himself transitions fully into the mentor figure. Ultimately Creed goes the distance, scoring the first knockdown his opponent has ever had, and loses in a split decision while winning in the eyes of the crowd.
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Blue Star posted:What was wrong about what I said about Jurassic World? Do the dinosaurs have feathers or dont they? No, but it acknowledges that that they did and that they've been genetically engineered. The whole point of Jurassic World is that they've been changing the dinosaurs to look scarier for bigger appeal.
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TheMaskedUgly posted:caffeine has basically 0 negative health issues apart from the withdrawal, and that's cured by more coffee It's also worth noting that you just don't hear stories about somebody drinking a poo poo load of coffee, getting into a car, swerving all over the road, and causing a crash that kills multiple people because caffeine really doesn't do that. Yes caffeine is in fact addicting but unlike most other drug addictions it's pretty much harmless. We don't lose musicians to caffeine overdoses but boy howdy does heroin seem to have a personal vendetta against music. Why yes I do in fact drink a poo poo load of coffee and tea, why do you ask? lemon-lyme disease posted:I never said you were a nihilist; I was just trying to help explain why other people might have interpreted it that way. “You don’t owe anybody anything and nobody owes you” is pretty devoid of nuance on its own. I don’t know what more there is to say. Automatically assuming it is nihilism is kind of a bad sign if you look at it. It's ultimately true that nobody really owes anybody else anything of the sort. Yeah the world would be a better place if we gave that poo poo more freely but there's no obligation. It should always be a personal choice who you spread that sort of thing around to. I really think part of the problem there is how increasingly narcissistic American society has becoming; we have poo poo loads of people demanding unconditional love and support and justifying lovely behavior with "well if you really loved me you'd put up with it." It's like...no. loving no. There are lines you absolutely never cross and if you do cross any of those lines then don't act all surprised when people who used to like you stop. It's like the old saying goes; if you kick a friendly dog enough times you won't have a friendly dog anymore.
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My wife writes the best Ben Bernanke - Janet Yelen erotica.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:It's pretty recent, yes. Here's a New York Times article from 2002. Thank you for the link! The article seems to imply that health and well-being varied a great deal depending on where on the continent a person lived/what their lifestyle was, and the downturn was mostly due to sudden diet change and living in cities. The average lifespan they give seems about typical for the time period regardless of location. I wish it had some more specific info but I guess I'd have to read the book, eh? If you happen to find the info about pre-contact plagues or w/e please pass it along to me, I am super interested. The article's title rubs me the wrong way though. Obviously we were regular humans with diseases and wars and all that other bullshit going on. If actual researchers were buying into the noble savage thing until this information came out... well, yikes. But the protests against celebrating people like Columbus have little to do with the diseases brought here and a lot more to do with 1) his personal extremely lovely behavior, and 2) the way we've been treated afterward. Caufman posted:My wife writes the best Ben Bernanke - Janet Yelen erotica. Does she actually have much competition, here?
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Telemaze posted:Does she actually have much competition, here? Hey, buddy, I try very hard to outwrite her.
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Telemaze posted:Thank you for the link! The article seems to imply that health and well-being varied a great deal depending on where on the continent a person lived/what their lifestyle was, and the downturn was mostly due to sudden diet change and living in cities. The average lifespan they give seems about typical for the time period regardless of location. I wish it had some more specific info but I guess I'd have to read the book, eh? I haven't been able to find anything and just remember reading about it over a decade ago. If memory serves there's no actual concrete proof other than a total lack of people where there should have been people in the early 16th century, whole cultures that mysteriously vanished in a short period of time but there were signs of war, and apparently some nebulous stories handed down that talk about plaguey things. It also wasn't written down and I think a lot of it was theory that led to the conclusion of "a big, loving nasty plague" simply because pretty much nothing else could have done it. A big chunk of it was archaeologists realizing that their original estimates for how many people were living in the Americas before Columbus showed up were way low. I'd give you links if I could but I can't find any. I think a lot of it was archaeological theory crafting that made sense so I believe it? In any event yeah it's really quite sad how much of the noble savage stuff the white academics of America used to believe and sometimes still do. Then again there are a poo poo load of people that get cranky when you suggest that maybe we shouldn't have a holiday dedicated to a genocidal maniac.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Automatically assuming it is nihilism is kind of a bad sign if you look at it. It's ultimately true that nobody really owes anybody else anything of the sort. Yeah the world would be a better place if we gave that poo poo more freely but there's no obligation. It should always be a personal choice who you spread that sort of thing around to. All good points with which I agree. Put in the context of abuse/toxic relationships/people crossing lines, it makes perfect sense and I (and probably most other posters) understood what was trying to be said as soon as that bit was clarified.
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Das Boo posted:Maybe let's leave that whole child porn thing illegal, tho. I can only grasp the easy zeitgeist (acceptance = good no matter what is being accepted) and mindlessly repeat it on "four legs good, two legs bad" logic without bothering to think the implications through. no fuk u child porn, rape and thrill killing for all
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Mu Zeta posted:Westworld is boring as gently caress I wouldn't call it boring but the plot moves at a snail's pace compared to something like Game of Thrones. I was expecting the host uprising to happen by like episode 3, not dragged out all the way to next season
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