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Gorefluff: Aug 19, 2004; cuddly minotaur

Vargatron posted:

Only one way to resolve this; Thunderdome.

lol! I watched this the other night. One of my wife�s boyfriend�s favourite movies and pretty much the only thing we bond over is quoting that masterpiece.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 21:35

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# ? May 30, 2024 20:12

therobit: Aug 19, 2008; I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

La Brea Carpet posted:

I (M29) was humbled by my boss (M24) at work because of my height

"Humbled"

The only reasonable response is "gently caress you, give me my check."

# ? Feb 5, 2018 21:37

Palpek: Dec 27, 2008; Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.

The boss is a total rear end in a top hat but also by jumping up and down for a check you estabilished yourself as the office omega that can be made fun of when the team is stressed :rip:

# ? Feb 5, 2018 21:44

Ham Sandwiches: Jul 7, 2000

Palpek posted:

The boss is a total rear end in a top hat but also by jumping up and down for a check you estabilished yourself as the office omega that can be made fun of when the team is stressed .

When rolling with the punches goes wrong

# ? Feb 5, 2018 21:46

La Brea Carpet: Nov 22, 2007; I have no mouth and I must post

Admiral Ray posted:

The moral of that story is to never work and find some woman who will take even the tiniest crumbs of your attention as manna from heaven.

Then sit on your rear end and play video games for 12 hours a day and demand she bring you more snacks as you call 12-year-olds cucks on voice.

Her asking you to clean up a dish will constitute abuse and a reason to withhold affection for a week.

Her downcast eyes and broken spirit will, for some reason, give you a twinge of pure joy.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 21:47

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Palpek posted:

The boss is a total rear end in a top hat but also by jumping up and down for a check you estabilished yourself as the office omega that can be made fun of when the team is stressed .

Exactly.

There were other options such as:

1. "gently caress you, give me my check."
2. Punch him in the dick and then take the check.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 21:48

La Brea Carpet: Nov 22, 2007; I have no mouth and I must post

My [23 f] boyfriend [31 M] bought me a car by surprise. It's not at all what I want

quote:

hopefully this doesn't make me seem super spoiled.

I've been seeing Tom for a year and a half. We're both engineers, met through work. He's got kids from a previous marriage

I've currently got a car I love, it's a 15 year old mazda miata. It's a little beaten up, but it's my baby

It's great because I live and work in the city and it's super easy to parallel park, (I can fit it into little spots most cars wouldn't fit) and it's fun to drive.

If I had to replace it, I could afford to, and I'd probably get another Miata

Tom always hated the car, he thinks it's kinda a death trap (He doesn't trust older cars, especially mine since I had a few accidents in it when I was learning to drive in highschool)

He doesn't like that I'm driving a RWD manual in the snow, even though I've gotten quite good at handling it (Only time I lost control was when I was a lot younger and was practicing for my license test)

He doesn't like how he always has to drive when we do something with his kids. (He has 3 kids, my car has 2 seats) i also hate driving his car, it's a huge minivan and I'm not used to driving something that feels so big and unweildy

My birthday was a few days ago, and he'd been hyping up my surprise gift for a while.

It was a new 7 seat Kia SUV... And while it is a super generous gift, it makes me feel like he never listened to why I like the car I have now.

The Kia would be terrible to parallel park, much more expensive to ensure, and less fuel efficient. I also don't have any need for more than 2 seats in a car, I'll rent a pickup truck if I need to haul things

I can't keep both cars, since I live in a dense urban area I can only get one street parking pass (unless I want to pay over 150 dollars a month to get a spot in a lot or garage for the 2nd car)

I tried to tell Tom that I didn't want to sign the title, because I really didn't need a new car and I was upset he got me a gift with out thinking of what I'd want.. i would have been happy with a nice dinner out!!

Tom got annoyed, talking about how impractical and unsafe my car was.

I tried to say that for my needs, a big suv in a city with lots of narrow cramped roads was a lot more impractical, but he argued about always having to drive if we brought anyone but us 2 (Which is most often his kids)

I feel like it was way more a gift for himself then for me. If he wanted to give me something I'd love, a new miataa would have been perfect. Or even something little like a fun day out together. Am overreacting and being selfish?

Tldr - boyfriend bought me a car that would be impractical and expensive for me, as a gift.

It's like my grandmother always said:

"If you can't handle the soccer mom life, don't try to be the soccer dad's wife."

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:06

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

An engineer didn't listen to a woman? And instead persisted with his pre-determined Best Decision?

Summon the fainting couch!

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:10

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

I bought you a glorified minivan so you can drive my kids around.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:11

Admiral Ray: May 17, 2014; Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

La Brea Carpet posted:

My [23 f] boyfriend [31 M] bought me a car by surprise. It's not at all what I want

It's like my grandmother always said:

"If you can't handle the soccer mom life, don't try to be the soccer dad's wife."

Dump your bf and sell the kia.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:15

Yawgmoth: Sep 10, 2003; This post is cursed!

OMGVBFLOL posted:

i dont see it in the last few pages but i just wanted to chime in and say i�ve read the story the new thread title refers to and it is solid gold

I'm too lazy to go hunting, please link

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:16

ArbitraryC: Jan 28, 2009; Pick a number, any number; Pillbug

If they were both their kids i could see why he'd be annoyed that she just wanted to keep a two seater and always have him be responsible for transportation when the kids were involved, but it seems p clear she's just dating him for funsies and isn't really eager to merge households/responsibilities that way.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:19

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Baronjutter posted:

I bought you a glorified minivan so you can drive my kids around.

That is exactly what this means by the way

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:19

ArbitraryC: Jan 28, 2009; Pick a number, any number; Pillbug

Yawgmoth posted:

I'm too lazy to go hunting, please link

Jeffrey posted it a few pages ago,

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

here:
My [23M] Girlfriend's [21F] Inappropriate Behavior, year long relationship, she has an obsession with an internet fad

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:20

Pvt.Scott: Feb 16, 2007; What God wants, God gets, God help us all

La Brea Carpet posted:

My [23 f] boyfriend [31 M] bought me a car by surprise. It's not at all what I want

It's like my grandmother always said:

"If you can't handle the soccer mom life, don't try to be the soccer dad's wife."

Marry the Miata or the man, you child. Your BF is tired of your tiny car poo poo. If you desire the dadcock so greatly, you have to take the kids with it. OP does not sound like she�s ready for family life. The best solution is that OP becomes dad�s mistress and he goes and finds a vanmom.

The real issue isn�t the car :monocle:

a true shocker

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:21

DeathSandwich: Apr 24, 2008; I fucking hate puzzles.

La Brea Carpet posted:

My [23 f] boyfriend [31 M] bought me a car by surprise. It's not at all what I want

It's like my grandmother always said:

"If you can't handle the soccer mom life, don't try to be the soccer dad's wife."

I mean... the SUV for someone who had no interest in driving an SUV without consulting them was a monumentally stupid idea. If you had to buy a car for someone in that situation (this guy certainly didn't have to), when they are use to driving smaller cars in a city situation, why not get a compact 4 door like a Corolla so you can still drag stepchildren around and also not feel like they are driving a tank.

And yeah ^^^^ they aren't married and she doesn't live with him, it makes sense to not want to alter your lifestyle in that way when you're not at that level of commitment.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:24

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

A modern Kia SUV probably actually gets better gas mileage than a 15 year old Miata, Kia makes really fuel efficient cars in the SUV class and standards were a lot lower in 2003.

But if he wanted to surprise her with a car he should have gone with a Soul, or a Sonata, Elantra, or Accent, especially a hatchback model of one of those. A four door sedan will have plenty of room for his kids, the modern safety features, and feel better to drive, while being small enough to easily parallel park. Each of those also have a shifter if you want to manually switch gears.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:24

Khorne: May 1, 2002

La Brea Carpet posted:

My [23 f] boyfriend [31 M] bought me a car by surprise. It's not at all what I want

It's like my grandmother always said:

"If you can't handle the soccer mom life, don't try to be the soccer dad's wife."

Refuse the vehicle. Break up with him on the spot. If he is capable of getting a drat clue he'll apologize to you and try to get back with you. I say that as a dumbass who does dumbass things but is capable of meaningful change. I've never done anything that stupid and hopefully never will, though! Otherwise, he'll tell his redpiller "I bought my gf a brand new suv and she broke up with me the spoiled bitch" story and anyone with a brain, male or female, will avoid him like the plague.

His only legitimate point is RWD is total garbage in the snow. Yeah, you haven't spun out, but your vehicle controls like a drat boat in the snow no matter how good you are at driving. That's the nature of RWD and why it's not good in the snow.

Khorne fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Feb 5, 2018

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:28

Three Olives: Apr 10, 2005; Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.

Why does he even want her to drive that badly? She doesn't want to drive his car, don't do it.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:29

Pvt.Scott: Feb 16, 2007; What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Al Borland Corp. posted:

A modern Kia SUV probably actually gets better gas mileage than a 15 year old Miata, Kia makes really fuel efficient cars in the SUV class and standards were a lot lower in 2003.

But if he wanted to surprise her with a car he should have gone with a Soul, or a Sonata, Elantra, or Accent, especially a hatchback model of one of those. A four door sedan will have plenty of room for his kids, the modern safety features, and feel better to drive, while being small enough to easily parallel park. Each of those also have a shifter if you want to manually switch gears.

The cars here really represent what each person wants in this relationship. OP wants to pursue a career and experience exciting city life, with the ability to dart to-and-fro to new experiences, and the ability to swing by and pick up her man in the spare seat if she wants. The BF wants a dependable, safe, predictable life in which his GF lives with him and helps raise his kids, with plenty of room for groceries or maybe even another kid or two in the back. The relationship is pretty much over at this point, even if neither party realizes it.

E: :iiaca:

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:35

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

Regardless I would encourage you all to purchase Hyundai and to a lesser extent Kia brand vehicles

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:37

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

Pvt.Scott posted:

The cars here really represent what each person wants in this relationship. OP wants to pursue a career and experience exciting city life, with the ability to dart to-and-fro to new experiences, and the ability to swing by and pick up her man in the spare seat if she wants. The BF wants a dependable, safe, predictable life in which his GF lives with him and helps raise his kids, with plenty of room for groceries or maybe even another kid or two in the back. The relationship is pretty much over at this point, even if neither party realizes it.

E:

This with the extra caveat that the entire thing was instantly predictable with a glance at their ages.

Such a shock that a 31 year old with children wants stability and dependability while 23 year old without attachment wants flexibility and adventure.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:38

Patrick Spens: Jul 21, 2006; "Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"; Pillbug

Speaking of gifts.

My (27F) BF (30M) of a year and our friends (Varied, 20s to 30s) helped me out of a real bad spot financially. I'm very grateful but now I feel like I have no privacy.

quote:

This year or two has sucked, y'all. I'm changing some things per usual for privacy but the relevant information is preserved.

Actually lets go back to about 2 - 2 1/2 years ago. My ex, let's call him Mike, and I had been together for a little over a year at that time. Everything was fine. No major issues. The occasional squabble of course but nothing serious and usually over something dumb. Right around our year anniversary he picked up some new interests and a new job so that meant new social groups. Things totally changed.

He started being gone just about every weekend at events for these new hobbies that he never made an effort to include me in, to be fair a lot I wasn't super into myself but I'd have come with him sometimes, at least for a while. But he just started informing me "I have this on Sat and that on Sunday so I won't be around much, just FYI". Our work schedules didn't really line up at all so most of the time we had to spend together was weekends.

I thought he was just passionate about his new interests and friends and it would level out but it got worse. Then he started slacking on financial responsibility. This will already be pretty long so I'll sum it up as he did things like not pay his car insurance and plates and got his car impounded, with a bunch of stuff I needed in it, then couldn't get to work and lost his job. He said we were ok, he had savings, but if he did he never used it for the rent, just his hobbies and rent was behind. I didn't have the money on my own to pay all of our rent plus the back rent plus my bills. I had to break up with him and move out. Of course my name was on the lease so I gave the landlord what I could and explained what happened and moved into my new place.

Rents are really high here and the new place was just barely affordable to me if I stuck to a strict budget, which I'm actually pretty good at doing. But then everyone's hours got cut at my job because of course they did. I took up driving Lyft to try to make ends meet but that's not predictable income and also comes with expenses. I was slowly seeping money.

A friend offered me a job where she worked but then because the Universe loves me, after 3 months the business closed.

I wasn't rich before, now I'm screwed.

Again for brevity and privacy, I'm doing the best I can but things are getting way worse.

While this is all going on, I have a new BF of about a year who we'll call Dean, and a friend group of my own. Like any group some people you're more, or less close to. Of course Dean knows what's going on, as do a few of our friends that I'm closer with.

Dean comes over one night with a box and says "This is from everybody."

Inside is cat food, gift cards for groceries and places like Target, and a note and receipt that my rent is paid for the next 3 months. I lost it. That was all above and beyond generous and I never imagined that people would do something like that for me. Words truly can't express how grateful I am, and how much stress that relieved. I am blessed to have these people in my life because it was really looking like homelessness was unavoidable.

But here's the problem.

And I feel like an rear end in a top hat even talking about it because I realize nobody had to do poo poo for me.

Over the next couple weeks anytime I talked one on one with other friends they all seemed to know details of my life I hadn't shared with them. How did tue job interview go? Was I able to get my medicine refilled (I have an autoimmune condition and that shits not cheap)? Some of what they knew was pretty personal and other things I wanted to wait to share, like if I got the job or not, until there was an answer one way or another. And wait? How did they know I even HAD an interview? I mean it's not a secret but I also hadn't shared it openly.

So I asked Dean.

There's a group chat all about me.

Originally there was no problem with it and it was actually really sweet. Someone started it like "Our friend is in trouble. I can contribute $75 towards Target GCs. Can anyone else chip in?"

But then it morphed somehow into The Daily Me.

"She told me she has a job interview on Wednesday, if you pray can you pray that she's able to stay calm and do well?" "She told me she's been having a rough time with (health condition) lately" "When I talked to her yesterday she was really down, her self confidence has really taken a hit with all this."

I feel like I have no privacy anymore. I appreciate the concern but I also think it should be up to ME what I share with whom, when, and for what reasons. I don't think everyone shares everything with everyone because everyone and every relationship is different. You know that friend you never talk politics with because you just end up screaming at each other? Or the "You don't LOOK sick. Everyone has aches and pains" person? Yeah. Like that.

My health is personal. My emotions and mental health are personal.

I mean..... at least they were.

I want to stress at no point was I suicidal or even alluded to it. Just very very stressed with no idea what I was going to do. Yes, sometimes with Dean there were tears and anxiety attacks but that's as far as it went.

I also want to stress that I have no issue whatsoever with how this started out. The person who started it, who was not Dean, of course had to share SOME details in order to explain why he was asking for everyone to help. He was discreet and shared the minimum necessary.

Now I feel intruded on and humiliated. If I had organized that for someone it would have ended with "I gave her the box tonight and she was overjoyed. I wish you all could have been there, it was like you could see the stress leave. Thank you all so much, we did good."

Maybe a check in here and there of "Hey, how's she doing? Holding up ok?"

Not a loving play by play of everything I share all aggregated in one place. I'm so humiliated. I feel like what started as a nice gesture wanting to help someone has now turned into inspiration porn and a circle jerk of "look what good people we are" and that they see me as less than and something to be fixed and monitored because I CLEARLY can't take care of myself and I'll probably just blindly bumble into traffic unless someone is taking care of me.

Thing is Dean knows I'm somewhat of a private person. The worst of all this is that he NEVER stepped in and said "Hey, ask HER how she's doing" or "Would you want intimate details of your health shared with everyone? Would you want everyone to know YOU had a meltdown? We need to respect her privacy, she's still her own person."

But no. He jumped right in there too.

I am so, so, so grateful for the help. But I don't know how to handle this now. I'm not a wayward helpless gently caress up and I'm not a child. I'm a capable adult who just got dog piled with a run of extremely bad luck all at once. I really don't want to come off as UNgrateful but I also don't know how to approach this.

Dean and I aren't really talking right now and I'm not sure I even want to continue to be with him. I'm not deciding until I get my head clear about it. Everyone is on an information diet because I have no idea what's going to get shared and that's not how I want my friendships to be. I feel like they're all damaged now. I feel like people no longer respect me as an equal and I'm some hapless idiot they all need to make themselves feel better by taking care of.

I know nobody intended this to happen but I also can't change that this IS how I feel. But their generosity has also put me in a really difficult spot because what can I say that doesn't sound like "Thanks for the help but now I'm pissed off at you all"? This is loving awful. I hate this whole situation.

What do I do now?

tl;dr Friends and BF compassionately pulled together to help me out of a tight spot. But now the group chat used to organize the effort to help is now a one stop update for all my personal details. I don't feel like I can say anything without looking unappreciative.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:38

Palpek: Dec 27, 2008; Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.

She's 23 and has a life ahead of her, he's 31, has kids and bought her a mom van after 1.5 year of dating without discussing it with her or apparently his expectations in their relationship (cause he's a logical engineer you see), of course it blew the gently caress up. Good for them to find out this way that they're ultimately incompatible - she's not ready to settle for the role he presumed she was already in.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:44

Pvt.Scott: Feb 16, 2007; What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Regardless I would encourage you all to purchase Hyundai and to a lesser extent Kia brand vehicles

That seems sensible. Have you considered an MGB GT for picking up your kids from school, though?

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:44

Midnight Voyager: Jul 2, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

La Brea Carpet posted:

My [23 f] boyfriend [31 M] bought me a car by surprise. It's not at all what I want

It's like my grandmother always said:

"If you can't handle the soccer mom life, don't try to be the soccer dad's wife."

I have a horrible time driving and parking big cars or trucks. Parking takes forever and is nearly impossible in some places. I feel constantly paranoid about my blind spots and how much space I'm taking up. If I had just an SUV, you'd have to put a gun to my head to get me on the road.

Get the lady a loving car that isn't a two-seater, not a whole SUV. If you get her a car she can't drive, you're a moron. I don't think there's any more to it than that, some people just can't drive big poo poo without problems.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:46

Rat Patrol: Feb 15, 2008; kill kill kill kill
kill me now

I'd be angry enough about a private chat like that that once I was back on my feet, I'd pay them all back and then cut them out of my life. It's one thing to be having a conversation with someone and saying "Oh and have you spoken with [mutual friend] lately? How are they doing?" and it's another to have a private group chat about everything in their life like they're some kind of ARG you have to meet up and piece together.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:47

Three Olives: Apr 10, 2005; Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.

Get her a minivan and go ahead and put the stick family on the back window. Also add a dog and mentioned how his kids have always wanted one and she has plenty of time to take care of it.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:51

andrew smash: Jun 26, 2006; smooth soul

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Each of those also have a shifter if you want to manually switch gears.

Lol, just lol at the idea that an automatic with a big boy gear shifter mode is in any way comparable to a manual. For practical purposes it's fine, it's nice to be able to downshift when you want to, but if you like manuals because they are fun to drive those things are loving terrible.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 22:59

boner confessor: Apr 25, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Huntersoninski posted:

I'd be angry enough about a private chat like that that once I was back on my feet, I'd pay them all back and then cut them out of my life. It's one thing to be having a conversation with someone and saying "Oh and have you spoken with [mutual friend] lately? How are they doing?" and it's another to have a private group chat about everything in their life like they're some kind of ARG you have to meet up and piece together.

i dont blame her for being mad about it but she must be leaving out some detail because people generally don't rally around you like that unless you're on the edge of homelessness or suicide or something. it's not like all these people are organizing to help her out because they have nothing better to do but gossip about her

# ? Feb 5, 2018 23:04

Three Olives: Apr 10, 2005; Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.

andrew smash posted:

Lol, just lol at the idea that an automatic with a big boy gear shifter mode is in any way comparable to a manual. For practical purposes it's fine, it's nice to be able to downshift when you want to, but if you like manuals because they are fun to drive those things are loving terrible.

You are a baby or a poor if you get a manual these days, automatics are better in every way, Ferrari doesn't even make manual cars anymore, Ferrari.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 23:05

mllaneza: Apr 28, 2007; Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952

andrew smash posted:

Lol, just lol at the idea that an automatic with a big boy gear shifter mode is in any way comparable to a manual. For practical purposes it's fine, it's nice to be able to downshift when you want to, but if you like manuals because they are fun to drive those things are loving terrible.

A buddy of mine has a Miata, they're hella fun to drive.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 23:06

Rat Patrol: Feb 15, 2008; kill kill kill kill
kill me now

boner confessor posted:

i dont blame her for being mad about it but she must be leaving out some detail because people generally don't rally around you like that unless you're on the edge of homelessness or suicide or something. it's not like all these people are organizing to help her out because they have nothing better to do but gossip about her

I sure dang hope so, tbh I totally believe there could exist a community of busybodies like that. As if chipping in to help is like purchasing tickets to her life's drama. I agree there's probably more to it, but if what she's written is accurate, I'd be beyond irritated in her shoes as well.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 23:09

Three Olives: Apr 10, 2005; Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.

Huntersoninski posted:

I sure dang hope so, tbh I totally believe there could exist a community of busybodies like that.

quote:

I am blessed to have these people in my life because it was really looking like homelessness was unavoidable.

quote:

As if chipping in to help is like purchasing tickets to her life's drama.

I dunno, both Pick and ourselves pay money for her to splay her trainwreck of a life over this forum so...

# ? Feb 5, 2018 23:13

monkeytennis: Apr 26, 2007; Toilet Rascal

Three Olives posted:

I dunno, both Pick and ourselves pay money for her to splay her trainwreck of a life over this forum so...

You�re all heart :classiclol:

# ? Feb 5, 2018 23:34

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

Goons gave thousands of dollars to a racist idiot with no cooking or business skills just to keep watching his business fail.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 23:35

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Three Olives is just mad that there�s an actual rich person in GBS

# ? Feb 5, 2018 23:39

andrew smash: Jun 26, 2006; smooth soul

mllaneza posted:

A buddy of mine has a Miata, they're hella fun to drive.

I bet they are! I�ve never driven a Miata but I have had a manual rwd and several motorcycles and they were ludicrously fun. I have an automatic with the optional gear shifter now and it�s so loving anemic-feeling I just ignore it and leave it in D.

# ? Feb 5, 2018 23:56

Pvt.Scott: Feb 16, 2007; What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Pick posted:

Three Olives is just mad that there�s an actual rich person in GBS

Kitty has claws.

E: the manual mode on an automatic is handy for snow and ice. Certainly not going to fulfill your race car fantasies tho.

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Whorelord: May 1, 2013; Jump into the well...

i always forget that americans cant drive lol

# ? Feb 6, 2018 00:39

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