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Augus posted:what did laci green do wrong? She went from a fairly alright sex positivism blogger who decided to go full terf who whines that perhaps 'the left' are the REAL nazis these days. Also she's dating that Ray Gun moron, which made it hilarious when she was all "Oh wow I found a tweet saying I should jump off a pier it's so hosed up how all the left LITERALLY WANTS ME TO DIE" when her mans got famous mainly for telling people to drink bleach and die like a super edgy cool guy.
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So how about that big UK YouTuber fight that happened over the weekend huh
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Kim Justice posted:So how about that big UK YouTuber fight that happened over the weekend huh What happened?
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Oh not like, a fight on the street or anything. There was a big white collar boxing match between KSI and Joe Weller (KSI won). Ended up having about a million+ people watching it on the live stream so seems like a success all around really. KSI's a bit of a tosspot mind (yet one I can't help but watch the videos of) It was kinda weird to see YouTubers getting the headguards on and having a bit of a (rather amateurish) scrap though. Thankfully my boys True Geordie and Laurence were commentating on it, which made the event much more palatable. There was one feel good moment mind - a guy, even after losing, still managed to propose to his girlfriend and get a yes. Even if I'd literally never heard of the guy before public proposals still make me go "AAWWWWWWWWW" so that was cute. It wasn't actually as bad an event as could have been expected really. EDIT: Oh, and also KSI called out Jake and Logan Paul after winning. So y'know, that's something. After diss tracks was the big trend of 2017, maybe boxing matches will be it in 2018. And KSI might be a bit of a toss but he's nothing compared to those fuckknuckles. Kim Justice fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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sexpig by night posted:She went from a fairly alright sex positivism blogger who decided to go full terf who whines that perhaps 'the left' are the REAL nazis these days. Laci Green is a significant enough reason why people side-eye left/left-leaning/whatever online personalities who start sounding too close to the bigots a lot more now, when it's not just someone being an rear end in a top hat obviously. Here's this person who seemingly had their head on straight, they educated a bunch of people about sex and things like that, they felt fairly trustworthy. They started making a bigger deal out of "But people on both sides" junk after tumbling into the group of bastards that everyone could pretty transparently see, people got really wary and a bunch circled the wagons as to why this is actually fine and nothing to be concerned about, then they turned and peeled out into CHUDsville after the right-winger brain worms took hold so welp. Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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Feb 5, 2018 18:36
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Laci went chud at exactly the right moment to crush whatever momentum she thought she was generating by "listening to both sides," in that her new fans had that rally in Charlottesville a few months later. She hasn't done a video since April, I don't think.
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Feb 5, 2018 18:48
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Kim Justice posted:So how about that big UK YouTuber fight that happened over the weekend huh It's been done
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Feb 5, 2018 18:56
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More directors should beat the crap out of their critics in the ring like my hero Uwe Boll
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Feb 5, 2018 18:58
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Jim Sterling has a response to Extra Credits response to his original response to their original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kIPNckHDN8
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Feb 5, 2018 19:08
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Phwoar. Tell you what, you don't get many of these to the pound. Might be the drink porniest vid on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z6k9ZmjrXI I like this guy as basically the cocktails version of Babish.
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Feb 5, 2018 19:22
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business hammocks posted:She hasn't done a video since April, I don't think. Welp  Also I'd almost forgotten Uwe Boll knocking Lowtax around 
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Feb 5, 2018 19:27
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Ah, the natural progression "I'm caught between two extremes! I am the rational person." "THERE'S ONLY TWO GENDERS, TOXIC MASCULINITY IS AN ANTI-MALE TERM, DRAG CORRUPTS OUR PRECIOUS WHITE BABIES"
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Feb 5, 2018 19:41
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Kim Justice posted:Oh not like, a fight on the street or anything. There was a big white collar boxing match between KSI and Joe Weller (KSI won). Ended up having about a million+ people watching it on the live stream so seems like a success all around really. KSI's a bit of a tosspot mind (yet one I can't help but watch the videos of) KSI sounded familiar and I had no idea why... until I remembered this gem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSKJ1MsPtg4
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Feb 5, 2018 19:55
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Yes, that's the same KSI. Not exactly the man's finest hour (by his own admission). EDIT: Lol, the thumbnail for that video has Ian Miles Cheong back when he called himself a 'turbofeminist' 
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Feb 5, 2018 19:57
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Someone should do a video essay on why youtube thumbnails are a garbage art form.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Someone should do a video essay on why youtube thumbnails are a garbage art form. They are among the most reliable mechanisms to drive views. People who don’t make a goofy face or a Dreamworks smirk get left behind.
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Feb 5, 2018 20:13
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Soy Boys seem to be a popular topic at the moment... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArAQxXJPD3Q Plus the return of an old friend!
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Feb 5, 2018 20:25
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Arcsquad12 posted:Someone should do a video essay on why youtube thumbnails are a garbage art form. https://twitter.com/robwhisman/status/735281634656669696
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Feb 5, 2018 22:01
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Face blindness is a bitch because I spent a few moments in a bizarre alternate universe where Kyle Kallgren had a video about an uber driver sucking him off.
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Puppy Time posted:Face blindness is a bitch because I spent a few moments in a bizarre alternate universe where Kyle Kallgren had a video about an uber driver sucking him off. I thought it was an RLM joke and they used a screenshot from when Jay used to be fat.
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What is the data on Doug Walker? He seems quite shrill and high on South Park style "Well, some people say THIS, others say THAT, but me, the reasonable middle, says SO". On the other hand, he does seem to put in effort instead of just talking at a camera, supports other reviewers, has a charity call-out bit, and is decent enough background fodder for when I'm painting 40k and Infinity stuff. Has he groped someone or done anything vile so I can feel retroactively bad?
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Sephyr posted:What is the data on Doug Walker? He seems quite shrill and high on South Park style "Well, some people say THIS, others say THAT, but me, the reasonable middle, says SO". No. Doug is largely fine...ish. He's a distant emotional brick who just doesn't "get" people and things and that drove a lot of people away from him (like all his site's core '10s-era talent). But really it's the fact that he's a package deal with actually toxic people like Mike Michaud and his brother Rob Walker that is a big sticking point with people. I'm of two minds on him. I don't watch his stuff anymore and I enjoy making fun of him, but I don't actively hate him like a lot of people do.
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nine-gear crow posted:No. Doug is largely fine...ish. He's a distant emotional brick who just doesn't "get" people and things and that drove a lot of people away from him (like all his site's core '10s-era talent). But really it's the fact that he's a package deal with actually toxic people like Mike Michaud and his brother Rob Walker that is a big sticking point with people. I met him and chatted with him and family at one event, but it was in a situation where he didn't need to be "on"; he seemed reasonable and chill and I was relieved that he had at least some separation between persona and person. Maybe that's a low bar, but when someone can't separate things it tends to result in a bigger trainwreck possibility.
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nine-gear crow posted:No. Doug is largely fine...ish. He's a distant emotional brick who just doesn't "get" people and things and that drove a lot of people away from him (like all his site's core '10s-era talent). But really it's the fact that he's a package deal with actually toxic people like Mike Michaud and his brother Rob Walker that is a big sticking point with people. Yeah pretty much, Doug, while a doofus, doesn't seem like the real issue in his group from most accounts.
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Doug is a harmless idiot who over acts in his online show.Kim Justice posted:More directors should beat the crap out of their critics in the ring like my hero Uwe Boll I thought you were going to say "More directors should beat the crap out of Lowtax" and I woulda agreed with that. Len Kabasinski vs Lowtax would be entertaining.
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EDIT: Lowtax vs Alejandro Jodorowsky, on top of a holy mountain - let's get it booked On Doug: Well, he's pretty much a normal guy isn't he? Like sure, his videos aren't exactly brilliant and he's got some douches around him but...well, there's not much else to say. He has a healthy disconnect between his regular life and Internet life. Same with so many other TGWTG guys really. Hence why the big ol' series that was done on them was kind of a load of nothing in the end. --- I caught a bit of DrDisrespect's return to Twitch today, as did like hundreds of thousands of others. Not exactly my cup of tea but it's certainly something to watch what Twitch streaming's like on the very top level. He certainly has a majorly plush setup. Kim Justice fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Feb 6, 2018 |
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Sephyr posted:What is the data on Doug Walker? He seems quite shrill and high on South Park style "Well, some people say THIS, others say THAT, but me, the reasonable middle, says SO". He's a man the race outran. He started so much with the reviewer thing but has not grown one iota as a performer or a thinker or a person. He's stuck at a particular stage of arrested development, condemned to do the same thing again and again while the people who got their start on his network have without exception grown in all kinds of amazing ways and kept the form moving forward, while he's still shrieking about Super Mario cartoons and waving his toy gun around. Also as said above his company is run by amoral garbage people who mistreat others, and he's too much of a coward to ever acknowledge that.
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Kim Justice posted:I caught a bit of DrDisrespect's return to Twitch today, as did like hundreds of thousands of others. All I can think of is how long it's gonna take for the hundredth "You've killed: YOUR WIFE'S TRUST IN YOU/YOUR CHILDREN'S RESPECT" and similar for him to slip, because oh boy are those coming.
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Yardbomb posted:All I can think of is how long it's gonna take for the hundredth "You've killed: YOUR WIFE'S TRUST IN YOU/YOUR CHILDREN'S RESPECT" and similar for him to slip, because oh boy are those coming. I think the chat's in sub-only. Still, the donations and subs he's getting is pretty freaking...like, a lot. I don't usually see that amount for anything except GDQ's (I guess there was tyler1 playing LOL again a month ago, though I didn't watch that). I find it hard to really muster any feelings about it all. In the grand scheme of all the other poo poo that gets revealed, "cheat on wife" seems like nothing compared to "masturbate in front of fan". Or in terms of Twitch, "go on insanely angry rant about titty streamers", "commit domestic violence", "pretend to be in wheelchair" or "masturbate on camera".
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business hammocks posted:He's a man the race outran. He started so much with the reviewer thing but has not grown one iota as a performer or a thinker or a person. He's stuck at a particular stage of arrested development, condemned to do the same thing again and again while the people who got their start on his network have without exception grown in all kinds of amazing ways and kept the form moving forward, while he's still shrieking about Super Mario cartoons and waving his toy gun around. Also as said above his company is run by amoral garbage people who mistreat others, and he's too much of a coward to ever acknowledge that. To be fair, he did try to break out from comedy reviews to try and do movie parodies instead, only to find that was an already crowded market where he couldn't get new viewers, his old viewerbase didn't respond to the new direction well, and the actual comedy in his parodies was lackluster. He's always been more about the skits than the actual reviews, but his skits aren't funny enough to stand on their own, and his reviews are shallow recitings of what happened in the movie. So he's been unable to grow because he's pigeonholed into a format that he wanted to leave behind years ago but just doesn't know how to do... anything else. I don't dislike the skit style of reviews, and honestly I kind of miss it. I don't think I've ever seen anything as entertaining and thought provoking at the same time as the Beauty and the Beast collab review Kyle did with Tony Goldmark. Or Kyle and Lindsey when they did that Tom Green movie. There's a certain kind of raw energy they had that the more recent, polished, actual reviews and video essays don't. ContraPoints and HBomber are close but also very different in style, substance and direction.
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Kim Justice posted:Same with so many other TGWTG guys really. Hence why the big ol' series that was done on them was kind of a load of nothing in the end. Did that dude ever get to Tod//Lindsey? I recall the video maker being a gamersgator so i feared the worst w.r.t. Lindsey's abortion.
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Kim Justice posted:I think the chat's in sub-only. Still, the donations and subs he's getting is pretty freaking...like, a lot. I don't usually see that amount for anything except GDQ's (I guess there was tyler1 playing LOL again a month ago, though I didn't watch that). Pretty much, I don't dig him and found his 'I'm sorry to my sponsors' video really creepy and a hilarious Black Mirror episode in real life, but it's hard to care about 'scumbag cheated on his wife' when so many of his peers have waaaay worse actual crimes.
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Zedd posted:Did that dude ever get to Tod//Lindsey? I recall the video maker being a gamersgator so i feared the worst w.r.t. Lindsey's abortion. Yes. Not worth watching at all really. TBH the only reason that Mister Metokur did a TGWTG series in the first place was because his patrons demanded it/pledged for it. There's very little in the videos that hasn't been disseminated by this thread (e.g. Doug's attempts to branch out failed, Noah was great but then got fired from the site and lost his smile, Joe has fights with his fans), plus the odd ludicrous conspiracy/rumour. In short, they suck. Metokur is more at home covering people like Terry A. Davis (man behind an OS that can apparently talk to Jesus), Nick Bate (possibly the most depraved man in the history of the Internet), or (more recently) the people who tried to catfish DSP...now those are vids worth watching. EDIT: And yes, he is a GG'er, sort of. He indirectly created the term, even - back when he was Internet Aristocrat, he was the man behind the "Quinnspiracy Theory" series of vids, which was the original name for it all. Adam Baldwin, of all people, then retweeted the first of the vids with the GamerGate hashtag, and thus gave the movement its name. Metokur left GG not long after and nuked his entire Internet Aristocrat account because 1: he didn't like the highly politically charged "muh ethics" path the movement took when people like Milo got involved and 2: he didn't want to be seen as one of its leaders. (That's just an explanation btw, not really an attempt to justify him or anything.) Kim Justice fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Feb 6, 2018 |
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SatansBestBuddy posted:To be fair, he did try to break out from comedy reviews to try and do movie parodies instead, only to find that was an already crowded market where he couldn't get new viewers, his old viewerbase didn't respond to the new direction well, and the actual comedy in his parodies was lackluster. He's always been more about the skits than the actual reviews, but his skits aren't funny enough to stand on their own, and his reviews are shallow recitings of what happened in the movie. So he's been unable to grow because he's pigeonholed into a format that he wanted to leave behind years ago but just doesn't know how to do... anything else. Yeah, this jives well with my own feelings. For actual goofy/funny movie analysis, the RLM guys work a lot better for me, and they are backed by enough actual knowledge that it's also interesting. So even when you don't really agree with their verdict, you can still get entertained by their antics. And for actual in-depth material, there's Brad, Linday, Kyle and others who can actuall string three thoughts together. I can appreciate his effort and energy at points (hell, his The Shining review is both insightful and actually funny), but the age of Shouty Youtube Person has passed. Or rather, it has moved on to Shouty Youtube Drama Figure/Fascist Cult Leader.
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Sephyr posted:What is the data on Doug Walker? Who's that?
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Kim Justice posted:Same with so many other TGWTG guys really. Hence why the big ol' series that was done on them was kind of a load of nothing in the end. Oh yeah, those videos. Did that guy say anything about JO? I know JO was worried about that.
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Mraagvpeine posted:Oh yeah, those videos. Did that guy say anything about JO? I know JO was worried about that.
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business hammocks posted:They are among the most reliable mechanisms to drive views. People who don’t make a goofy face or a Dreamworks smirk get left behind. Yeah, we sure are  Speaking of CinemaNippon did a video on an animu. Its Paranoia Agent, the standard bearer for "deep" anime in the middle 2000's. Apparently its also the victim of corporate horsetrading with the licensing rights stuck in limbo after a corporate buyout. Capitalism claims another victim. Well only in America  in the UK its still readily available.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qxUxfEV-Vk
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lornekates posted:Who's that? It's Gabriel! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCyEm-K3BGg
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nine-gear crow posted:No. Doug is largely fine...ish. He's a distant emotional brick who just doesn't "get" people and things and that drove a lot of people away from him (like all his site's core '10s-era talent). But really it's the fact that he's a package deal with actually toxic people like Mike Michaud and his brother Rob Walker that is a big sticking point with people. business hammocks posted:He's a man the race outran. He started so much with the reviewer thing but has not grown one iota as a performer or a thinker or a person. He's stuck at a particular stage of arrested development, condemned to do the same thing again and again while the people who got their start on his network have without exception grown in all kinds of amazing ways and kept the form moving forward, while he's still shrieking about Super Mario cartoons and waving his toy gun around. Also as said above his company is run by amoral garbage people who mistreat others, and he's too much of a coward to ever acknowledge that. Doug's decade-old video on his top 20 favorite movies was what made me interested in movies as an art form for the first time in my life. That said, I haven't watched his stuff in two years and I don't feel the need to change that.
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