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Vintersorg posted:they are song lyrics Reminds me of when I did VTRA training and the facilitator put up a photo of 'extremely violent and threatening graffiti' from a school bathroom, but it was just Tyler the Creator lyrics.
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Preen Dog posted:This again. Any language would work. Specific mandatory French is intended to benefit the francophone minority at the expense of everyone else. That's simply apartheid. Maybe read a history book as to why we learn French in school Upper/Lower Canada history Maybe it was important to communicate with different groups of people, but yeah you are right, making Canada unified definitely put Canada in a weak position
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Feb 5, 2018 23:25
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This is all I remember from french in school
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Preen Dog posted:This again. Any language would work. Specific mandatory French is intended to benefit the francophone minority at the expense of everyone else. That's simply apartheid. Jesus christ, we were all wrong for engaging you in the first place.
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DariusLikewise posted:This is all I remember from french in school Thanks for triggering me.
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Why even have the federal government provide services to a large swath of the country in both country and those people’s native language when we can simply all use the imperial Queen’s language! Why I’m not at all an ignorant little poo poo!
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CLAM DOWN posted:Jesus christ, we were all wrong for engaging you in the first place. TBF use of language clearly isn't their strong suit. cowofwar posted:Why even have the federal government Free Alberta!
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Set aside the terminology and explain what's wrong with waving a feather?
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-1980's South Africa -The ongoing situation in Palestine -Having to learn a tiny bit of french in elementary school
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DariusLikewise posted:This is all I remember from french in school téléfrançais, téléfrançais, téléfrançais
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flakeloaf posted:Set aside the terminology and explain what's wrong with waving a feather? DariusLikewise posted:This is all I remember from french in school Bull. I have it on good authority that les ananas ne sautent pas en parachute just another fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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Don't have much to add other than I took French up until grade 12 and I agree it should be taught more prominently / more better. I have a weird mental tic for remembering vocabulary so I'm kind of in the spot mentioned on the previous page where I know a bunch of words, but unless it's a very simple present case conjugation I have no idea how to say it. Probably would only take a couple months dedicated work to get back up to speed though, and I wouldn't have that except for learning it in school (in Alberta) so it's something I'm glad of.
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Interesting part I haven't seen mentioned yet is that the gun that Stanley had was an old Soviet pistol called a tokarev, and likely his ammunition was old Chinese surplus ammo. Making the chance of a dud cartridge or hangfire a possibility If you aren't knowledgeable on firearms the chance of a malfunction in a old surplus pistol is much higher then a modern pistol. The chance of a bad round in old surplus ammo is orders of magnitude higher then new production ammo. Not saying a hangfire happened. It's still like a .1 to 1% chance if that patonthebach fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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patonthebach posted:Interesting part I haven't seen mentioned yet is that the gun that Stanley had was an old Soviet pistol called a tokarev, and likely his ammunition was old Chinese surplus ammo. Making the chance of a dud cartridge or hangfire a possibility Oh so it’s justified because it was more likely to not go off? no guns for white men
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Arivia posted:Oh so it’s justified because it was more likely to not go off? no guns for white men If he'd just bought Canadian he could have fired four or five bullets into the back of that kid's head instead
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Arivia posted:Oh so it’s justified because it was more likely to not go off? no guns for white men Who said it was justified? Dude rolled strapped with a lovely pistol and garbage ammo, his using the gun at all is the problem.
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Arivia posted:Oh so it’s justified because it was more likely to not go off? no guns for white men Wtf is wrong with you
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I know I’m more permissive of guns than most of you urban STEMmers thanks to my time jumping stubble as a kid, but still - none of the “mitigating circumstances” being brought forward do anything to change my mind that Stanley shot the kid in a fit of Caste Doctrine excitement and immediately wished he could have a take back to avoid consequences. You advance on the vehicle, running up to the driver side window with a handgun after having already fired twice for what purpose besides death?
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"I fired three warning shots into the air, to, uh, scare 'em. Then when I lowered the pistol it went off into the back of that kid's head"
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Well duh, if he kept aiming high he'd have missed again.
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infernal machines posted:Who said it was justified? Dude rolled strapped with a lovely pistol and garbage ammo, his using the gun at all is the problem. IDK why Pat would bring it up except as justification
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What's the big deal? He might have been trying to steal poo poo, and as is well known we have the death penalty for theft here in Canada and it can be administered by citizens pre-emptively.
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I don't know what it would justify, it's just meant to be a reasonable excuse for the kid getting a bullet in the back of the head. They're saying that piece of crap might have "gone off" at a time when he wasn't pulling the trigger.
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Entropic posted:What's the big deal? He might have been trying to steal poo poo, and as is well known we have the death penalty for theft here in Canada and it can be administered by citizens pre-emptively. Haven't you been following the news? The terrorists are using vehicles as weapons now. They were only trying to drive away so they had enough distance to build up enough speed to destroy him and his farm house.
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infernal machines posted:I don't know what it would justify, it's just meant to be a reasonable excuse for the kid getting a bullet in the back of the head. They're saying that piece of crap might have "gone off" at a time when he wasn't pulling the trigger. Yeah gently caress that poo poo. @Baronjutter: that’s one thing we can luckily guarantee, no aboriginal ISIS converts. A modern day Red River Rebellion or the like is certainly deserved though.
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patonthebach posted:Interesting part I haven't seen mentioned yet is that the gun that Stanley had was an old Soviet pistol called a tokarev, and likely his ammunition was old Chinese surplus ammo. Making the chance of a dud cartridge or hangfire a possibility I get what you're saying, it's kind of interesting gun chat. One of the witnesses was an RCMP guy who examined the gun, he tried to make it hangfire and a few other things and testified that he could only get it to shoot when pressing the trigger. Same guy testified that hangfires don't actually exist and if they do they only last 0.5 seconds at most. Defense lawyer got joe internet on stand to testify that yes he'd had a 7 second hangfire like 10 years ago. Now, I would've said fine you think it was a hangfire but actually you had both hands in the car reaching around the wheel to turn it off and hit the trigger on something, I could see that. Stanley said he had the magazine out and slide racked when it went off though which is crazy but then you've got that deformed casing. He also said he never pointed the gun at anybody because gun safety but then it had to be pointing at boushie at the end. flakeloaf posted:Set aside the terminology and explain what's wrong with waving a feather? I'm thinking it's distracting, it's closer to a whole wing.
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Baronjutter posted:Haven't you been following the news? The terrorists are using vehicles as weapons now. They were only trying to drive away so they had enough distance to build up enough speed to destroy him and his farm house. Some would say maybe you could just yell at them to go away and if they don't, just, I don't know, take a picture of their license plate, call the cops, and go inside, but that's madness -- It's well known that aboriginals can channel wolf spirits to huff and puff and blow your house down.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Stanley said he had the magazine out and slide racked when it went off though which is crazy but then you've got that deformed casing. Why did he do this while the incident was still in progress? Like, he was trying to clear the chamber, with the magazine out, while poo poo was still going down?
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infernal machines posted:Why did he do this while the incident was still in progress? Like, he was trying to clear the chamber, with the magazine out, while poo poo was still going down? He said, he shot in the air, everybody ran away so he made it safe because he figured he was done using it, he didn't realize there was people still in the suv when he walked up to it.
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infernal machines posted:I don't know what it would justify, it's just meant to be a reasonable excuse for the kid getting a bullet in the back of the head. They're saying that piece of crap might have "gone off" at a time when he wasn't pulling the trigger. I think that was his point. That it is a thing that does happen, even if its super rare. So the whole "hangfire" isn't a guaranteed lie, its just an incredibly likely lie. Either way a gun shouldnt have been involved in the whole scenario. Postess with the Mostest posted:I get what you're saying, it's kind of interesting gun chat. One of the witnesses was an RCMP guy who examined the gun, he tried to make it hangfire and a few other things and testified that he could only get it to shoot when pressing the trigger. This is crazy. They 100% exist. What a lovely expert. Did he also testify global warming isn't happening? Most of them are only a half second at most but I'm sure there are variances there. That being said I dont buy that excuse for a second. Either he shot intentionally or he accidentally pulled the trigger out of fear or whatever. Either way no gun should have been involved. vincentpricesboner fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Feb 6, 2018 |
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Entropic posted:Some would say maybe you could just yell at them to go away and if they don't, just, I don't know, take a picture of their license plate, call the cops, and go inside, but that's madness -- It's well known that aboriginals can channel wolf spirits to huff and puff and blow your house down. Not to disparage you but rural folks have very bad response times, I know in a city I could probably reasonably get a police officer in like 10-15 minutes but in rural areas you can wait several hours before a police officer can show up. They may be in a different area necessitating a long driving time, or they might be dealing with another call before yours. I honestly don't know what to think about this, obviously you should be able to protect yourself from danger but it gets murky how much force you can use.
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Chillyrabbit posted:Not to disparage you but rural folks have very bad response times, I know in a city I could probably reasonably get a police officer in like 10-15 minutes but in rural areas you can wait several hours before a police officer can show up. They may be in a different area necessitating a long driving time, or they might be dealing with another call before yours. I think it gets murky but the level of force is < shooting a guy in the back of the head with a handgun.
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Chillyrabbit posted:Not to disparage you but rural folks have very bad response times, I know in a city I could probably reasonably get a police officer in like 10-15 minutes but in rural areas you can wait several hours before a police officer can show up. They may be in a different area necessitating a long driving time, or they might be dealing with another call before yours. Go inside your house, lock your doors, call the police and then if you’re still nervous about personal safety grab your gun. Don’t charge the people in the car John Wick style and shoot into it at head level. Not that loving hard
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TIL it's a celebrated part of rural culture to keep FP-45s hidden around the property, just in case you need to murk someone for eyeing your quad. Y'know, because the cops might not show up for a few hours.
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zapplez posted:This is crazy. They 100% exist. What a lovely expert. Did he also testify global warming isn't happening? Most of them are only a half second at most but I'm sure there are variances there. I was being overly concise. He admitted they do exist but most are in tenths of a second and a half second was as long as he had ever heard anywhere in all the research of one lasting and he didn't think one could take longer. I was surprised because it's such common practice to wait the full 60 seconds when you have a misfire/dude, you'd think that was based on something.
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This what I was trying to get at a couple days ago. If you legit fear for your life, round up the family and grab grandpa’s shotgun and hole up inside. The whole “running at a moving vehicle with a handgun” doesn’t strike me as a defensive or fearful manoeuvre. Stanley was absolutely looking for trouble and put himself in a position to find it.
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If Stanley had done nothing he wouldn’t be the one going to prison and this would be a nothing case. He probably would’ve been able to recover his poo poo in the end. Nobody will be recovering from this.
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A Typical Goon posted:Go inside your house, lock your doors, call the police and then if you’re still nervous about personal safety grab your gun. Don’t charge the people in the car John Wick style and shoot into it at head level. I mean I'm an urbanite, so I probably feel safe in a city where the police can respond relatively quickly. Someone out in the country may feel more exposed especially since his family was out there. Allegedly the passengers attacked his wife so the wife out there was somewhat exposed to danger, and might have been separated from the husband. Especially being older people seeing several younger people just invade your farm/yard might make a reasonable person think there might be more to it than just stealing an ATV, and 5 younger people against an older couple and 1 son seems like bad odds. I can't find news articles but was/is there a crime wave in Sakatchewan around that time, making people fear for their safety? There was an apparent hold up of a farmhand Which speaks to the state of mind in the area of being on their own when criminals are being very bold.
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