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Goober Peas posted:Ryan reminds me of the dorky dad from RugRats holy poo poo
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Groovelord Neato posted:how the gently caress do you not know fair catch at least. I don't recall ever hearing the term "fair catch" in my life because I've only watched like two football games ever. I mean it makes sense that it would be called a "fair catch" but I wouldn't immediately cotton on that that's the technical term that's being asked for. I don't watch sports because I find them boring. I don't think it should be all that surprising that this is a trait commonly found among the kinds of people who watch and appear on Jeopardy! 
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Cnut the Great posted:I don't watch sports because I find them boring. I don't think it should be all that surprising that this is a trait commonly found among the kinds of people who watch and appear on Jeopardy! Sports categories are pretty common. I will say that the $200 clue was much harder than a $200 clue should be, even many football fans don't know what an option play is.
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WampaLord posted:Sports categories are pretty common. Yeah, they're common enough for it to be a well-worn trope that Jeopardy! players aren't too good at sports trivia. At best, you might get one person out of three who's a sports nerd and answers most of the clues in the category.
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Feb 2, 2018 19:55
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you should probably know very basic things about the most popular sport when going on a trivia show.
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Feb 2, 2018 22:01
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Yeah, it's no different than not knowing anything about opera, ballet or art history, but Jeopardy nerds think it's cool to turn their noses up at filthy sportsball aficionados
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Feb 2, 2018 22:10
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Groovelord Neato posted:you should probably know very basic things about the most popular sport when going on a trivia show. different kind of football 
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Feb 2, 2018 22:19
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Most Jeopardy sports clues are about sports metadata (team identities, history, famous players, etc). This is the first time I can recall them asking about how to actually play a sport.
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Feb 2, 2018 22:45
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Goober Peas posted:Ryan reminds me of the dorky dad from RugRats Chuckie's dad hosed tho
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haveblue posted:Most Jeopardy sports clues are about sports metadata (team identities, history, famous players, etc). This is the first time I can recall them asking about how to actually play a sport. I've watched some Sports Jeopardy on NBCSN and I get killed because I can't pull AFL passing stats out of my rear end.
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WampaLord posted:Sports categories are pretty common. Agreed, I only knew it because of a job interview I had a job interview at a Kaplan a decade back where another candidate did a mock lecture on it as part of the interview, and it stuck in my mind. But yeah, I also only knew who Tom Landry was and who he coached because of King of the Hill. I missed the episode because I was on my way to see a Digimon movie (lol animu stuff, amirite?) but looking at that Jeopardy Twitter video posted last page, I got all of them except the $1000 clue. Helps that my grandpa was a big football fan (imagine, an old Chinese dude monopolizing the TV on Sunday afternoons to watch his games, even if he couldn't pronounce the team names correctly, he rooted for the "Gi" and the "Jet"), and it transferred to me because he basically raised me, and a couple of my uncles, and independently of them, a whole lot of my cousins. Yes, it's a cliche that Jeopardy contestants are clueless about sports, but cliches are there for a reason. More fodder sports blogs and such, but yeah, this was pretty drat embarrassing. Funny to read a bunch of the more mocking articles all in good fun, since Jeopardy and Trebek himself roasted the competitors himself. Still, I doubt it'll convince more potential contestants to study up on sports stuff if it isn't among their interests already, even if it'll potentially make them look terrible like yesterday if it comes up. And this likely will go far, but probably not to the point of that episode last year where they only got through half of the sports category before Anupama, a challenger, responded with the Colorado Rockies in response to a question about NFL Hall of Famers. The Rockies wound up sending her a bunch of merch even though she's a Cubs fan, including an IOU for tickets and a signed photo of a Marcus Allen (the subject of the clue she infamously bombed) who works as a video producer in their organization. Anyway, I don't want to see how the Jeopardy Facebook page was taking this, though it looks the like the Twitter roasting was all in good fun because of how Jeopardy kicked it off and Trebek's reaction. I know one of the admins of our contestant FB group (Jason Sterlacci, the Teacher's Tournament winner from two years back and recent ToC contestant) had to keep deleting posts on the subject and reminding people the rule in the group not to post about the game until 11PM Eastern so as not to spoil others until any plausible West Coast airings are done. I missed a bunch of Ryan's games this week because of doctor's appointments and other meetings I had to go to, but I caught tonight's. I can see why people don't like him because of large swings in his scores from negging so much, like today's game, where he dug himself into a hole real early and just couldn't climb out. His first appearance was like that too on Monday, but a couple of judges rulings going for him let him pull back after that commercial break and just left everyone behind soon after. Like, his ability to make some decent comebacks made for some good Jeopardy watching. Didn't work out too well for him tonight though, even if he was the only one to hit Final, but was too deep in the hole to make a difference. Second place even bet to cover him by a dollar after she missed it, which was good for a laugh from me and him as well apparently (or someone in the audience) when her bet and final score was shown. I didn't get Final myself until the last minute, but that was because I wasn't paying too much attention unfortunately, but likely without enough time to be able to write it down if I was behind the podium. Well, he likely won't be back for the next ToC though, what with only 4 wins under his belt. So if you didn't like him, you won't have to see him again in the future either. I didn't think he was too bad, but I can see why others wouldn't like his breadth of knowledge, compared to previous champions, and how his challengers didn't seem to give him that much to work against either. Also, I guess the contestant coordinators stopped telling people not to shake their fellow contestants' hands after the game until Alex comes over for the chat and handshakes then, so as not to possibly fall off of the electronic stand lifts (aka the electronic apple crates, which is what a bunch of former contestants call them, after I think Kristen Sausville started using it in the group and it caught on) that we stand on behind the podiums to somewhat equalize our heights when doing so. But now that the contestants don't walk out from behind the podiums for the chat during the credits and Alex walks over instead (and now the podium dividers are electronically power and raise and drop by themselves before and after Final instead of needing to be physically put in place by the crew), I guess they changed that. GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Feb 4, 2018 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:you should probably know very basic things about the most popular sport when going on a trivia show. Tell that to Arthur Chu. Anyway, I asked my friend who's super into football and he said most of the clues were phrased in relatively abstract or unclear terms and it wouldn't surprise him if even an average person who watched football got them wrong. Maybe you're just being a dick. Soothing Vapors posted:Yeah, it's no different than not knowing anything about opera, ballet or art history, but Jeopardy nerds think it's cool to turn their noses up at filthy sportsball aficionados Exactly. Give the average person mocking these Jeopardy nerds clues about any of those categories and they'd probably be just as stumped. The difference is I'm not looking down my nose at anyone for not knowing about those things. If you're not interested in those things you're just not going to know much about them. It honestly doesn't really matter and has nothing to do with how smart you are. Even most of those articles were clearly being written in good fun. The only person truly being unpleasantly condescending about it that I've so far encountered is Groovelord Neato here in this thread. haveblue posted:Most Jeopardy sports clues are about sports metadata (team identities, history, famous players, etc). This is the first time I can recall them asking about how to actually play a sport. I don't know man. Obviously this is me, a non-sports fan, but I consider "very basic" knowledge about football to be stuff about first downs, interceptions, field goals, end zones, safeties, etc. This stuff seems like one step above basic knowledge, the kind of stuff you'd only know if you watched the sport routinely, listened to sports commentary, read sports articles, etc. Cnut the Great fucked around with this message at 09:31 on Feb 3, 2018 |
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I have never ever watched a single football game in my entire life. Literally zero games watched. Other than that random times they have it on mute at a bar. e: okay I’ve gone to some college games but saying I watched them would be too much. More like I cheered whenever the people around me cheered and I put my hands on my head a lot like other people did. Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Feb 3, 2018 |
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how is "The Great Schism" not the correct answer? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas#Final_days_and_%22straw%22_(1272%E2%80%931274)
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Ein cooler Typ posted:how is "The Great Schism" not the correct answer? Yeah, that puzzled me as well. I guess Ryan didn't challenge the ruling, or the judges ruled against him off screen. Mistakes were probably made there.
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Cnut the Great posted:I don't recall ever hearing the term "fair catch" in my life because I've only watched like two football games ever. I mean it makes sense that it would be called a "fair catch" but I wouldn't immediately cotton on that that's the technical term that's being asked for. Boris Galerkin posted:I have never ever watched a single football game in my entire life. Literally zero games watched. Other than that random times they have it on mute at a bar. Oh my god not being into sports is the jeopardy nerd equivalent of "I don't even have a TV".
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As much as I can laugh at them for lack of American football knowledge, I'd probably be completely lost if they had a category about cricket or Australian football or something.
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Croatoan posted:Oh my god not being into sports is the jeopardy nerd equivalent of "I don't even have a TV". I'm not bragging though. I'm just saying I don't see why it's any more mockworthy than not being into opera.
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Cnut the Great posted:I'm not bragging though. I'm just saying I don't see why it's any more mockworthy than not being into opera. When the contestants whiff on an opera category it doesn’t become a trending twitter topic and get articles on every major news outlet
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The Super Bowl is coming up and news people like to have football stories in the headlines this week. The Super Bowl is a football game.
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Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi posted:When the contestants whiff on an opera category it doesn’t become a trending twitter topic and get articles on every major news outlet I answered all but one of the football questions and I rarely watch the game and all I know about opera I learned from Bugs Bunny.
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The opera categories are more similar to the sports statistics categories, because they focus on specific information about operas, not how/what operas are in general.
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Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi posted:When the contestants whiff on an opera category it doesn’t become a trending twitter topic and get articles on every major news outlet I get why people in the wider world are latching on to and laughing about it. I don't get why people in this thread are so incredulous. Mister Kingdom posted:I answered all but one of the football questions and I rarely watch the game and all I know about opera I learned from Bugs Bunny. I'm genuinely curious why it might be that I don't know this stuff. I'm not some shut-in. I hang out with people who watch football, I go to bars, I usually get together with friends and watch the Super Bowl every year--so why don't I know what an option play is? I'm serious. Why am I so lacking in this common knowledge? Am I just uncommonly stupid or unobservant? The fact that I can gather and retain so much information about so many other things after only relatively brief exposures would seem to indicate otherwise. All I'm saying is that it seems to me that you have to watch and follow the sport to know these things. I don't think it's basic knowledge you glean from cultural osmosis like people are making it out to be. Touchdowns and field goals are part of the general cultural vernacular. I don't feel like fair catches and option plays are. That's just my impression as a non-fan (obviously, because the information had to have escaped me somehow).
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Cnut the Great posted:I'm genuinely curious why it might be that I don't know this stuff. I'm not some shut-in. I hang out with people who watch football, I go to bars, I usually get together with friends and watch the Super Bowl every year--so why don't I know what an option play is? I'm serious. Why am I so lacking in this common knowledge? Am I just uncommonly stupid or unobservant? The fact that I can gather and retain so much information about so many other things after only relatively brief exposures would seem to indicate otherwise. Announcers don't really talk about in depth football terms that often, they try to keep it accessible to the mainstream audience. After an option play, you might hear the announcers call it an option play, but you'll have no idea what exactly that means because all you hear is "The option play got them 5 yards, it's now third down" and they don't really go into explaining what an option play is. So anyone who's ever seen a football game probably knows about touchdowns/field goals/fumbles/interceptions but it's unlikely they know about things like post routes/option play/nickel defense because those are more detailed concepts that announcers don't really break down and discuss.
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Cnut the Great posted:I get why people in the wider world are latching on to and laughing about it. I don't get why people in this thread are so incredulous. I’ll actually concede your point here, because it’s probably true. Option plays and offsetting penalties aren’t necessarily every-game occurrences, so I can understand not knowing what those are if you’re a less-than-casual watcher. Fair catches though...I’ve seen games where there are more of those than touchdowns. E: or actually, Option plays probably do happen every game, but as the above poster pointed out, they aren’t always called out as such by the announcers. Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Feb 3, 2018 |
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Also, option plays mostly only happen in college games, so if your main exposure is the nfl, I could see never hearing of it before. As a casual at best observer of football, all except that last question were pretty easy. The fact that all three of them went 0 for 5 was pretty funny, usually there is at least one contestant with a little bit of sports knowledge.
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As someone who watches football casually every so often and has idly read a few wikipedia articles about the more entertainingly esoteric bits but doesn't really consider themselves a "sports person", I got 3 out of 5- fair catch and offset penalties off the top of my head, option play as a guess, didn't know Landry was a Cowboy or the name "purple people eaters". My GF, who is way more into sports history and lore than the actual mechanics of the game, got the exact inverse. I did hear a commentator mention "option play" during the Super Bowl, though, so there's that. haveblue fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Feb 6, 2018 |
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Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi posted:I’ll actually concede your point here, because it’s probably true. Option plays and offsetting penalties aren’t necessarily every-game occurrences, so I can understand not knowing what those are if you’re a less-than-casual watcher. Eh, you see fair catches, but how often is it really called one? I don't recall it being mentioned too often, though I don't watch football too often either. I only knew it because of XFL's stupid "NO FAIR CATCHES!!!!! XTREEEEEEEEME!" marketing initiative back in the day before 900 players got injured.
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MisterZimbu posted:Eh, you see fair catches, but how often is it really called one? I don't recall it being mentioned too often, though I don't watch football too often either. The announcer literally always says "..and last name signals the fair catch.."
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big trivia FAIL posted:The announcer literally always says "..and last name signals the fair catch.." Yea but no one's paying attention on punts unless a big return happens
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WampaLord posted:Yea but no one's paying attention on punts unless a big return happens Jeopardy rewards paying attention to stuff!
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Soothing Vapors posted:Uh disography and veterngarian were just objectively wrong What is going wrong with the judging lately? They've been calling correct answers wrong (more than once in a couple of weeks), and then try and gift this guy a win. Thankfully he didn't.
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The American business known as the tuba industry
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