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ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

tractor fanatic posted:

Stalking chris chan online is gross and obviously crosses a line, but let's not pretend like goons really have a high horse to ride on.

I mean, a lot of those hosed up people started here at SA so you're not wrong. Like if you're trying to get me to admit SA has a history (and actively) had parts of it where gross poo poo happened on the reg then Yeah no it did and does!

chitoryu12 posted:

I don’t know Chris personally, but I’ve talked to someone who’s interacted with him over a long period of time in a non-troll sense. His mind is so warped in bizarre ways that I legitimately think there’s no coming back from it, and there’s probably a lot more than autism going on (see: ripping up his own taint to try and get a vagina).

Mmmhm. Yeah that makes a lot of sense. Now what can you tell me about the patient's humors?

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

In elementary school there was a kid we all thought was weird. We made fun of him constantly to the point of obsession. Made up songs about him being a homosexual and all the sorts of other cruel things kids do. At the time it was fun and I thought nothing of it, now it's something that makes me deeply sad and generally ashamed, but I don't hate myself for it. We were kids, now we know better.

I think it's the same thing with all the helldump poo poo that went on in the early days. We were e-kids, we didn't really know better. Now we do.

What makes you think they stopped?

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

Inescapable Duck posted:

What makes you think they stopped?

Yeah no they've actually just gotten worse. And if your response to the knowledge that you probably seriously hurt someone as a kid is "Eh, whatever. I know better now." you don't actually know better.

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

rudatron posted:

saying 'we we just kids' is exculpatory.

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

if your response to the knowledge that you probably seriously hurt someone as a kid is "Eh, whatever. I know better now." you don't actually know better.
you're both obnoxious af

Slow-Scan Shep
Jul 11, 2001

maybe we should counter "read seige" with "read settlers"

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I denounce myself.

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison
this thread went into some real weird places, can we get back to the alt right satanic cults soon

Slow-Scan Shep
Jul 11, 2001

It saddens me that there are some intelligent people on kiwifarms, as (in addition to everything else) the level to which open fascism is allowed on the site is just disgusting. It's more a repeat of Helldump than anything else, only everyone is fair game this time.

I think it might eventually splinter into various zany offsite factions in much the same way Helldump did. You can only have a constant posting war of all against all for so long before some of the participants get tired of it. I'm hoping whatever happens won't turn out as badly as the last time, but I seriously doubt it.

Slow-Scan Shep has issued a correction as of 07:33 on Feb 6, 2018

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

uncurable mlady posted:

this thread went into some real weird places, can we get back to the alt right satanic cults soon
patience makes plenty

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Hey, it's not just in Kiwifarms, Helldump methods are used everywhere, from liberal twitter to wackadoo tumblr to tankies to the alt-right, meshing incredibly well with various political heirarchies and Maoist-style struggle sessions.

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
i think alot of people on the cusp of failsondom treated the cwc thing as a group therapy session and those that did not instead delved into their worse compulsions

there is something wrong with everyone remaining with the cwc thing

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
*throws everything at the thread to derail this discussion*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62WXBkDdImg

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
christine isn't funny anymore. every now and then he does something like macing gamestop employees or making a sextape with a blowup doll. now, he just begs for money and there's no comedy in that. kiwifarms is just documenting him out of habit now because they joke is over. most of kiwifarms is trying to recapture that old feeling but the internet isn't innocent like 10 years ago. most of the people they doc are just slightly twisted versions of themselves and its self-loathing all the way down.

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

is that couple who got married after meeting on cwc-wiki still together or nah

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Uncle Wemus posted:

is that couple who got married after meeting on cwc-wiki still together or nah

Wasn't the dude of that couple The Saurus, noted terrible shitheel?

TheBalor
Jun 18, 2001

temple posted:

christine isn't funny anymore. every now and then he does something like macing gamestop employees or making a sextape with a blowup doll. now, he just begs for money and there's no comedy in that. kiwifarms is just documenting him out of habit now because they joke is over. most of kiwifarms is trying to recapture that old feeling but the internet isn't innocent like 10 years ago. most of the people they doc are just slightly twisted versions of themselves and its self-loathing all the way down.

If there's one word to use to describe the internet of 2006, "innocent" is not the one I'd pick.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I just watched the 20 minute video where the Times followed Eli Mosley around in this article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/05/insider/confronting-a-white-nationalist-eli-mosley.html

I just noticed this having never watched him talk, that despite his fearsome straight-dude warrior image, he comes across, like Spencer, as a quiet and shy gay kid really. It's blazingly obvious.

The Identity Evropa / Spencer group also comprises a small number of young and pretty geeky kids being bossed around by these older dudes in this pseudo-military style. There are really not that many of them.

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 08:44 on Feb 6, 2018

Bullfrog
Nov 5, 2012

SPLC posted a huge report on the history of the alt-right's violence. One thing that strikes me is how disgusting it is that social media companies weakly stood by as right-wing extremists carved out a space on their sites.

https://www.splcenter.org/20180205/alt-right-killing-people

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Bullfrog posted:

SPLC posted a huge report on the history of the alt-right's violence. One thing that strikes me is how disgusting it is that social media companies weakly stood by as right-wing extremists carved out a space on their sites.

https://www.splcenter.org/20180205/alt-right-killing-people

they were busy shutting down left wing pages

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Bullfrog posted:

SPLC posted a huge report on the history of the alt-right's violence. One thing that strikes me is how disgusting it is that social media companies weakly stood by as right-wing extremists carved out a space on their sites.

https://www.splcenter.org/20180205/alt-right-killing-people
Yeah seriously. Need to create alternatives. Haven't tried Mastodon yet but I know some people who use it since there's greater mod tools, supposedly.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Inescapable Duck posted:

Of course, SA pretty much got it all started with Helldump.

I genuinely can't tell if this is a joke or not, but just in case it isn't, no, SA did not invent pointing and laughing at strange people, or stalking and doxing them on the internet.

There's a flamewar on Usenet involving four or five people on one side and one on the other, that has been going on since before the web was invented, let alone before SA, which has involved the loss of hundreds of ISP and Usenet accounts, doxing, multiple visits to homes and places of employment, at least three court cases (all thrown out under the obscure legal principle of "Are you for loving real?") and at least one actual physical assault.

It is about whether Edinburgh or Glasgow airport should be considered the most important airport in Scotland.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I genuinely can't tell if this is a joke or not, but just in case it isn't, no, SA did not invent pointing and laughing at strange people, or stalking and doxing them on the internet.

There's a flamewar on Usenet involving four or five people on one side and one on the other, that has been going on since before the web was invented, let alone before SA, which has involved the loss of hundreds of ISP and Usenet accounts, doxing, multiple visits to homes and places of employment, at least three court cases (all thrown out under the obscure legal principle of "Are you for loving real?") and at least one actual physical assault.

It is about whether Edinburgh or Glasgow airport should be considered the most important airport in Scotland.
World Star.

The Narrator
Aug 11, 2011

bernie would have won

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I genuinely can't tell if this is a joke or not, but just in case it isn't, no, SA did not invent pointing and laughing at strange people, or stalking and doxing them on the internet.

There's a flamewar on Usenet involving four or five people on one side and one on the other, that has been going on since before the web was invented, let alone before SA, which has involved the loss of hundreds of ISP and Usenet accounts, doxing, multiple visits to homes and places of employment, at least three court cases (all thrown out under the obscure legal principle of "Are you for loving real?") and at least one actual physical assault.

It is about whether Edinburgh or Glasgow airport should be considered the most important airport in Scotland.

Which side do you take?

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/855154894726193152

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av

chitoryu12 posted:

Of course, the "don't troll Chris" rules had been broken all along because I later found out that some of the mods on there were people who had been behind poo poo like a man in a pickle suit showing up at a staged date at a mall. They just kept really quiet for years about that, and also admitted to hoarding a fuckton of videos and conversations with Chris that they weren't releasing publicly. For some reason they had this bizarre idea about trolling Chris but keeping it all to themselves, as if they had some kind of elite club or secret society about messing with a weirdo.

I don't have a word for how impressively bizarre, in a negative way, that is. I heard that people went to sift through the rubble of her burned down house to look for personal documents, but for some reason, the idea of keeping a secret hoard feels even worse to me

Even worse, this somehow brings a sense of community to some, to the point of at least two people meeting through the trolling of Chris-Chan and ending up married. How will they answer the question "how did you met?", just say "on the internet" and let people assume it was OKC?


That's a name I hadn't heard of in... hell, over a decade. I heard it shut down back then but I guess it didn't stick. Wasn't it just a proto-reddit "make your own imageboard"? Where did it go wrong? (lol)

temple posted:

Why are you on somethingawful?

Awful Link of the Day, aptly enough. But to the best of my knowledge, nobody spent a decade stalking the guy with a fetish for drawing women getting punched in the stomach

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av

chitoryu12 posted:

The best place for him is a group home of some kind.

On the other hand, being an extremely online sideshow is so profitable. What do, what do :thunk:

The Puppet Master
Apr 9, 2005

Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me hard.




the people who concern post about Paris have never once been to Paris and have an image of the city crafted by bad media and Disney.

Someone needs to expand this wiki page to include Internet Nazis Paris Syndrome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome

Tias
May 25, 2008

Pictured: the patron saint of internet political arguments (probably)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund
I'd be surprised if dear EDL Tommeh have ever been outside his county of birth.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

hackbunny posted:

Awful Link of the Day, aptly enough. But to the best of my knowledge, nobody spent a decade stalking the guy with a fetish for drawing women getting punched in the stomach

Speak for yourself I pay for the premium livestream of his kitchen.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Tias posted:

I'd be surprised if dear EDL Tommeh have ever been outside his county of birth.

For a moment I thought he was the dipshit who went over to Northern Ireland to help Jayda Fransen only to get arrested himself, but that was the Britain First dipshit.

All these racist dipshits are the same to me I guess.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

*throws everything at the thread to derail this discussion*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62WXBkDdImg

this is probably unwoke or whatever but: that dude is gay right

Stinky Wizzleteats
Nov 26, 2015

You must pay the price for this post.
literally all human beings are gay

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Stinky Wizzleteats posted:

literally all human beings are gay

so im right

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

this is probably unwoke or whatever but: that dude is gay right

a lot of the profiles on spencer & these dudes include these kind of descriptions re: their digs

quote:

After a few phone calls, Eli agreed to give me an on-camera interview, at Richard Spencer’s apartment in Alexandria, Va. Spencer, 39, plays the big brother to many teenagers and 20-somethings drawn to the alt-right, and his one-bedroom apartment has become a frat house for white nationalists passing through the D.C. area. When I was there, a steady stream of young men (and an occasional woman) flowed in and out. Although Eli lives less than an hour away, he often crashes there on late nights spent drinking and planning the next event. He proudly told me he always gets the couch, while others sleep on the floor.

having streams of lonely, isolated teenagers and twenty-somethings wafting in and out of your living space seems... iffy

Stinky Wizzleteats
Nov 26, 2015

You must pay the price for this post.

on the one hand yes, on the other, nazis are not people, but they also all happen to be gay as all hell. a fishmech-like semantic distinction.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/charles_kinbote/status/960630574640705536

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Budget Sargon

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Uncle Wemus posted:

they were busy shutting down left wing pages

The whole social media approach is literally 'Liberals hate socialists more than fascists', at BEST. Though they tolerate tankies, since they're basically controlled opposition.


goddamnedtwisto posted:

I genuinely can't tell if this is a joke or not, but just in case it isn't, no, SA did not invent pointing and laughing at strange people, or stalking and doxing them on the internet.

There's a flamewar on Usenet involving four or five people on one side and one on the other, that has been going on since before the web was invented, let alone before SA, which has involved the loss of hundreds of ISP and Usenet accounts, doxing, multiple visits to homes and places of employment, at least three court cases (all thrown out under the obscure legal principle of "Are you for loving real?") and at least one actual physical assault.

It is about whether Edinburgh or Glasgow airport should be considered the most important airport in Scotland.

Point, but SA might be the first to make it into a community hobby that inevitably turns to cannibalism.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/inihelene/status/960862769296871424

https://twitter.com/inihelene/status/959846968800530433

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

maybe he's a nazy, maybe he just really love his skin and country??? jury out imho

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