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Feb 6, 2018 05:52
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I'd rather have Homestuck Kai but I guess that wouldn't really fix anything
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Feb 6, 2018 06:03
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Enourmo posted:Homestuck Super when? Roughly 19 years after the creator said they were done. See you in 2036.
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Feb 6, 2018 06:10
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HSKai would remove most of, what, act 5 and 6?
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Feb 6, 2018 06:25
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That would be good. 
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Feb 6, 2018 06:30
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Enourmo posted:Homestuck Super when? First we gotta get through Homestuck GT.
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Feb 6, 2018 07:37
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Homestuck abridged.
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Feb 6, 2018 07:37
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Remember Homestuck 2.0. With whatshisname, Rufio? Wild times.
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Feb 6, 2018 08:13
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Zeruel posted:Remember Homestuck 2.0. With whatshisname, Rufio? I'm reasonably certain that's what the Viz Media deal is about.
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Feb 6, 2018 08:18
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in the same trend as murdoch and google investing in myspace, so too comes vizmedia to homestuck
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Feb 6, 2018 09:42
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Clawtopsy posted:iirc vriska even pauses and goes "why isn't condy attacking us? OH WELL" She lost her immortality because she died at the same time (modulo time bullshit) as Lord English did.
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Feb 6, 2018 12:01
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:First we gotta get through Homestuck GT. That opening rap is going to be a hell of a thing
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Feb 6, 2018 16:45
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I could maybe enjoy a Homestuck Extended Universe and Family of Products, Homestuck Ultimates Timline and all the rest, if the subjects were approached with the same sort of meta-commentary and medium exploration as the original. There's a lot of content in the "who weeps for the lost Marios" vein and questions of continuity or 4th-wall awareness in the modern franchise phenomenon that's dying to be explored but few have a platform to do it from. I can remember a passable if mundane example of this from Hussie's Namco High venture, where Davesprite was included to be self-aware and maudlin about being an obvious brand crossover promotional character in a visual novel. It didn't come close to transcending the ultimately shallow limits of the dating game genre though, and while I think Hiveswap was pretty fun it didn't show much sign of this sort of experimental material either. Edit: To give a more concrete example with Hiveswap, one weird wrinkle with that game as a Homestuck "franchise" product is since it's a sort of prequel we already know what's going to go down with a lot of characters. The Heiress villain isn't going to win in her challenge of Condy since the Condesce is still in power by the series proper, Roxy will grow up to be Mom Lalonde so her story's basically told, and ultimately our heroes are all probably doomed from the start because we know both their universes will be destroyed within their lifetimes. Some of these expectations might be subverted as part of a plot twist, but if they are, I'd expect it to stay within the bounds of a conventional story. For example, maybe Jude, her brother and the trolls will escape into their own Sburb session somehow, avoiding death by meteor, to keep the ending from being marred by their otherwise inevitable deaths. What they probably won't do is engage with the problem of being prologue characters drawn from the background of a main story where they're destined to die, a la Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead. Nothing they'll do will threaten the integrity of the main story with a paradox, nor raise questions about canonicity or continuity with the main work. They seem mostly interested in just exploring the background and settings of stories and places from the comic proper and playing it straight as they do, which is okay, but not really what helped Homestuck stand out in the first place. Dolash fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Feb 6, 2018 |
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Feb 6, 2018 22:53
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Dolash posted:Nothing they'll do will threaten the integrity of the main story with a paradox It's a Homestuck story. It won't give a poo poo about paradoxes, or contradicting the main timeline. I don't disagree with the rest of what you said - Hiveswap's been so far much more interested in just exploring the world on its own terms than playing the same meta tunes Homestuck did - but then even Homestuck didn't go all that far on meta-narrative really, compared to recent(ish) stuff like Undertale, Oneshot or DDLC.
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Feb 6, 2018 23:16
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It's 2018, if your game doesn't have a character who's aware of your actions between saves and playthroughs, a framing device that presents your interactions with the game as actually a personal intervention in another universe, and parts where the program interacts with the rest of your computer outside of the game then you're not even trying. I was trying to think of if we've reached a point where you could write a satire of this sort of meta-commentary storytelling in games, but I think at that level of self-awareness the story as a whole would collapse in on itself beyond any audience's ability to take seriously and you become just some rear end in a top hat saying "imagine if, like, people in stories knew they were in stories?" Dolash fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Feb 7, 2018 |
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Feb 7, 2018 00:04
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everyone in hiveswap being wiped out by meteors with a mournful cry of "member the ninetieeeeeeeees" would be the best possible conclusion to hives swapped
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Feb 7, 2018 00:14
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Dolash posted:It's 2018, if your game doesn't have a character who's aware of your actions between saves and playthroughs, a framing device that presents your interactions with the game as actually a personal intervention in another universe, and parts where the program interacts with the rest of your computer outside of the game then you're not even trying. You've got to work up to it. The next step will be to take the obligatory game-within-a-game, make its creator comment on their need to make it more meta, and wonder if some of their ideas are too hackneyed.
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Feb 7, 2018 00:41
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is our new author introspective enough to wonder if he's hackneyed?
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Feb 7, 2018 01:18
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Our best bet is that he's still riding high on "I'm the Homestuck guy now..." and doesn't even think about doing that. Or he just asks Hussie for help. Clawtopsy posted:hives swapped Thank you for this.
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Feb 7, 2018 01:22
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hiveswap? more like hiveswad.... HIVES.WAD that is, my epic new doom 2 map.
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Feb 7, 2018 01:50
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Dorroile, I say this as a... Dorroile, please stop.
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Feb 7, 2018 02:00
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hmmmm..... ok
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Feb 7, 2018 02:01
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One thing Hiveswap could do to shake up it's storyline is steal a plot point from the Rebuild of Evangelion movies. Now granted not everyone thought this was good, but I loved it: See, the Evangelion movie were originally billed as remakes of the TV series, and the first movie pretty much does follow all of the major story beats of the show. However, in the second movie things start to get a bit strange and by the end of it everything has gone completely off the rails. The third movie explains why: Turns these movies aren't remakes, they're sequels. The entire cast was stuck in a timeloop that only a few people were aware of and able to change, and the changes that have been made caused everything to get much worse (and if you've seen the original Evangelion you know that things weren't that great to begin with). Here's how that could be applied to Hiveswap: These games aren't prequels, they're sequels. Weird time shenanigans has caused reality to reset and now, moving forward, we can change events that we know about and cause them to go better (or worse).
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Feb 7, 2018 02:06
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life_source posted:Thank you for this. 
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Feb 7, 2018 02:40
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:One thing Hiveswap could do to shake up it's storyline is steal a plot point from the Rebuild of Evangelion movies. Now granted not everyone thought this was good, but I loved it: snip It's an interesting enough idea, but yeah, I don't see much evidence so far that Hiveswap wants to do much experimenting in that particular way. Which might not even be that bad if that reflects a bit of self-awareness that the team working on it and the various limitations the game has faced (such as: being made at all) are not up to the task. Something merely "Homestuck flavored" that's mostly about exploring the trolls and some parts of the human side of the Sburb equation can still be fun, if a little light.
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Feb 7, 2018 06:42
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Homestuck is so hosed by its infinite timelines and realities bullshit that Hussie might well as go full hog and use something like that to explore all of the plot threads he failed to tie together decently (if he ever does do try to seriously continue Homestuck in the same way). No one cares about the lovely utopia-in-selfies or these inane non-Spades teenage romances.
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Feb 7, 2018 14:15
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Hiveminded posted:Homestuck is so hosed by its infinite timelines and realities bullshit that Hussie might well as go full hog and use something like that to explore all of the plot threads he failed to tie together decently (if he ever does do try to seriously continue Homestuck in the same way). No one cares about the lovely utopia-in-selfies or these inane non-Spades teenage romances. Actually if the Homestuck fanbase has taught us anything it's that quite a lot of people care about these.
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Feb 7, 2018 14:41
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It's all leading up to a fully canonical MMORPG where you can play as one of the 10 million dead Daves, and Jack is basically the Ski-Free yeti
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Feb 7, 2018 15:43
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:One thing Hiveswap could do to shake up it's storyline is steal a plot point from the Rebuild of Evangelion movies. Now granted not everyone thought this was good, but I loved it: See, the Evangelion movie were originally billed as remakes of the TV series, and the first movie pretty much does follow all of the major story beats of the show. However, in the second movie things start to get a bit strange and by the end of it everything has gone completely off the rails. The third movie explains why: Turns these movies aren't remakes, they're sequels. The entire cast was stuck in a timeloop that only a few people were aware of and able to change, and the changes that have been made caused everything to get much worse (and if you've seen the original Evangelion you know that things weren't that great to begin with). Here's how that could be applied to Hiveswap: These games aren't prequels, they're sequels. Weird time shenanigans has caused reality to reset and now, moving forward, we can change events that we know about and cause them to go better (or worse). I was going to unfollow this thread, but now it's been useful to me for explaining wtf is going on in the third Rebuild movie.
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Feb 8, 2018 02:38
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Spellman posted:It's all leading up to a fully canonical MMORPG where you can play as one of the 10 million dead Daves, and Jack is basically the Ski-Free yeti An afterlife where you and the other players all play alternate universe versions of a small cast of characters is actually a pretty neat premise for an MMO. The epilogue for the infinite ghost army should've been founding an infinite bubble-city of the dead. Just an endless society of the same 32 people repeated over and over with slight variations forever.
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Feb 8, 2018 06:58
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Android Blues posted:Actually if the Homestuck fanbase has taught us anything it's that quite a lot of people care about these. Okay no one with any taste cares
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Feb 8, 2018 13:18
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i think it is very funny that dirk strider is spending his time in his lovely new universe running an alternate porn-heavy something awful
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Feb 10, 2018 00:02
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Scarodactyl posted:Homestuck abridged. Kanaya cranks Vriska in the jaw while hollering "IM A gently caress-MOTHERING VAMPIRE!"
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Feb 10, 2018 06:55
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Homestuck Abridged already exists in-canon as Homosuck. Begins as a parody played straight, eventually collapses under the weight of its own meta, before the person(s) responsible lose interest and pursue other creative endeavors less than halfway through.
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Feb 10, 2018 07:44
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Which Abridged series are we throwing shade at here? Because that could probably be most of them.
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Feb 10, 2018 20:49
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Cabbit posted:probably most of them.
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Feb 10, 2018 20:57
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https://twitter.com/Strider4SENATE/status/960790894466105344 This is the worst timeline.
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Feb 10, 2018 22:37
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dont self-advertise ur twits
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Feb 11, 2018 02:57
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It'd be pretty cute if Hauntswitch had whatshisface's Hive full of 90s troll stuff that we wouldn't understand. although it's more likely be 90s-thing-but-slightly -alien
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Feb 15, 2018 18:34
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Thresh Prince of Bel Air, but more
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