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FilthyImp posted:The Bolt will do the same under the eco setting, iirc. Drop the Bolt into “L” and grab hold of the steering wheel regen button, and it will stop relatively quickly. That said, the steering wheel regen button does kinda have this annoying half-second delay which I couldn’t get used to on the test drive, and it’s not as easy to vary as the pedal. I liked it for what it’s worth, but still haven’t driven the “best” according to the car mags which is the i3, nor the car I can never afford, the Model S.
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Is the Bolt regen in "L" plus the wheel button stronger than just the wheel button in D? I didn't try much in L, but was super impressed by the deceleration just with the button in D. Kinda figured it was maximum since it was basically a reasonably smooth driver's natural maximum stopping force.
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Platystemon posted:The Tesla Roadster is now the world’s fastest production car.  Wheee!
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Jesus gently caress, the two boosters landing in formation while a roadster is cruising in space. The most [img-descending-shades-deal-with-it] ever done in space.
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Feb 7, 2018 00:22
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Ola posted:I guess it's just the sensation of it and that it mixes in friction brakes seamlessly. Prius has done that for over twenty years. Why's it weird/special/worth mentioning in newer EVs?
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mobby_6kl posted:
I wish there was a higher res version of this. Great desktop wallpaper.
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Prius has done that for over twenty years. Why's it weird/special/worth mentioning in newer EVs? I don't know! Bjørn has tried a lot of cars and he seemed particularly impressed with this one. Why is one pedal driving a new term at all if the Prius has done it for twenty years? E: Looked it up, you have a mode to switch between coast or regen and if the battery is full it ICE engine brakes. Doesn't mix in the brakes at all, even if perhaps OCD Prius owners say they don't touch the pedal. Ola fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Feb 7, 2018 |
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The Prius doesn’t do one‐pedal driving. There is regen if you lift off the accelerator in D (optional in the newest ones), but it’s minor. It’s the brake pedal that gives a mix of regen and friction braking. But it’s not really seamless. It uses regen exclusively, except when it can’t, including under heavy braking, when the battery is full or hot, and at very low speeds.
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Platystemon posted:The Prius doesn’t do one‐pedal driving. It does feel more like a manual with a heavy flywheel than a torque converter auto when you lift off the accelerator pedal though.
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Alpenglow posted:Is the Bolt regen in "L" plus the wheel button stronger than just the wheel button in D? I didn't try much in L, but was super impressed by the deceleration just with the button in D. Kinda figured it was maximum since it was basically a reasonably smooth driver's natural maximum stopping force. It wasn’t too significant, and the with the button engaged it may have been the same overall deceleration between L and D. It could be that I just “felt” like it was stronger due to the initial hit from L mode.  My butt dyno is pretty drat inaccurate, so I could be remembering it wrong.
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The Bolt will decelerate at 0.12G in full regen, the Leaf does it at 0.2G, iirc.
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The S doesn’t generally regenerate to a complete stop, which is fine with me, but it also doesn’t do the thing the i3 does where regen force is simulated by friction brakes when the battery is too full or cold to regen at the normal rate. I would really like that so that my car doesn’t drive materially differently depending on the weather.
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drgitlin posted:The Bolt will decelerate at 0.12G in full regen, the Leaf does it at 0.2G, iirc. Is that full regen in L mode or full regen in L with the paddle held down?
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ClassH posted:Is that full regen in L mode or full regen in L with the paddle held down? According to this article its .3g with L and the paddle. Drive mode (mildest regen <.2g’s) Drive mode using Regen on Demand paddle Low mode Low mode plus using Regen on Demand paddle (strongest regen ~.3g’s) https://insideevs.com/exclusive-inside-the-chevrolet-bolt-with-its-chief-engineer-new-details/
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Subjunctive posted:The S doesn’t generally regenerate to a complete stop, which is fine with me, but it also doesn’t do the thing the i3 does where regen force is simulated by friction brakes when the battery is too full or cold to regen at the normal rate. I would really like that so that my car doesn’t drive materially differently depending on the weather. Yep. I actually kind of hate taking my car out after I have to do a full charge for a longer drive. The first 20 minutes is spent reminding myself that I need to really use the brake, not just let off the accelerator. Couple that with I only fully charge about once or twice a month. ugh. cmon Tesla.
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silicone thrills posted:Yep. I actually kind of hate taking my car out after I have to do a full charge for a longer drive. The first 20 minutes is spent reminding myself that I need to really use the brake, not just let off the accelerator. Couple that with I only fully charge about once or twice a month. ugh. cmon Tesla. This is especially true after a supercharger stop and 100% fill up.
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Yeahhh, I got my first speeding ticket because of this with my Leaf. Whooooops going 50 on a downhill, used to regen keeping me at ~37 lollllll
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Just got an email from Tesla advising me that my production estimate has been pushed. My reservation now says March-May 2018. Damnit. (Dual motor and standard range estimates are now just "Late 2018," for anyone interested in those.)
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Feb 8, 2018 15:59
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Good lord. By that timetable the Bolt will have been widely available for an entire year before the first base Model 3 rolls off the line. And even the long range Leaf might beat it to market.
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MrYenko posted:Just got an email from Tesla advising me that my production estimate has been pushed. My reservation now says March-May 2018. Yeah mine was pushed to July-Sep and I'm planning on getting the more expensive one 
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Agronox posted:Good lord. By that timetable the Bolt will have been widely available for an entire year before the first base Model 3 rolls off the line. And even the long range Leaf might beat it to market. Yeah, the 3 isn't going to go in the win column for Tesla.
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I saw the first Model 3 I've seen in the wild last weekend and I live in San Francisco. Bolts and Volts and Leafs and i3s and Models S and X are so common they barely even register. They definitely kinda hosed up this entry.
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It's a shame none of us will live long enough to see T'la finally return to Earth, on its mission to learn all there is to learn, and return that information to its creator. RoboMusk v5.7 will of course be there to greet the returning vehicle and its brave and stoic pilot, a gleaming LCD tear in the corner of his eyepiece.
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Subjunctive posted:Yeah, the 3 isn't going to go in the win column for Tesla. Mine got pushed (Mar-May 2018 / late 2018 / late 2018) as well.
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KozmoNaut posted:It's a shame none of us will live long enough to see T'la finally return to Earth, on its mission to learn all there is to learn, and return that information to its creator. Please, Jeff Bezos is going to capture it and hang it as a war trophy in the lobby of Amazon HQ.
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blugu64 posted:Please, Jeff Bezos is going to capture it and hang it as a war trophy in the lobby of Amazon HQ. I wouldn't put it past him.
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My dad just sent me this:quote:*ELECTRIC CAR ** it makes you wonder**… * So conservatives hate electric cars because electricity costs $1.16 per kwh and premium mid size cars which are not electric cost more than economy sub-compact cars. Also we are going to crash the power grid because electric cars need to continuously draw 75 amps.
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Who's paying $1.16/kwh?
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Three Olives posted:My dad just sent me this: That one is definitely going around the old people circles since my grandpa, who doesn't normally send me those kinds of e-mails, forwarded it to me too.
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Kastivich posted:Who's paying $1.16/kwh? Electricity in Texas costs $.028/Kwh because, get this, wind energy is so goddamn cheap and plentiful in Texas it has pushed the market down. It's cheaper than the second cheapest energy in Texas, natural gas and we also produce shitloads of cheap natural gas. Also if electricity cost $1.16/kwh the average home electric bill would be like $1,400 a month so no.
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Funny how you must have 75 amps to charge a Tesla, but can only charge a Volt on 15. I wonder what rear end in a top hat made that up.
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I will always stand in awe at how corporate interests tricked the common idiot into doing their PR for them, for free, usually against the person's own best interests.
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That email doesn't contain a single correct number... But people eat this type of poo poo up unfortunately. And $1.16kWh?! My last power bill would have been $3,402 at that price. It costs me $1.30 to charge my Volt at home. Gas would have to at least be that per gallon to reach break-even point. Edit: Gas would have to be around $1.30 per gallon to break even with electric in the winter, and more like 70 cents per gallon in the summer. stevewm fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Feb 8, 2018 |
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Everything about it is complete nonsense but the thing that gets me is that there is plenty of completely legitimate criticism that you throw against electric cars down to literal child slave labor and what they came up with electricity costs absurdly more money than it actually costs which anyone can easily check by looking at their electric bill?
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I just looked and my most recent bill here in the Expensive Everything State of CA was $.15/kWh
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Yeah even in Canada mine ranges from $0.07 to $0.13 Canadian per kWh. Costs me less than $6 to fully charge my P90D.
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Mine is 9 cents per KWh. That email is loving stupid.
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Three Olives posted:Everything about it is complete nonsense but the thing that gets me is that there is plenty of completely legitimate criticism that you throw against electric cars down to literal child slave labor and what they came up with electricity costs absurdly more money than it actually costs which anyone can easily check by looking at their electric bill? This child/slave labour thing has been bandied about, as if the fact there's child miners in Uganda or whatever is the reason not to buy an electric car, but for some reason it's not enough of a reason to not buy prawns or t-shirts or food or jewellery or basically anything that doesn't have a documented supply chain that you've personally extensively researched. It seems like an argument of convenience used to justify a personally held belief, which is a pretty lovely thing to do when you're taking about child and slave labour. Not that anyone would do that. Like, if there weren't kids working in Ugandan mines, would naysayers suddenly embrace electric cars, like that was all that was holding them back? Of course not. There would be something else. Birds getting hit by windmills. Moose getting tangled in high tension lines. And the fact that there's still kids working in other mines, and plenty of slave labour in the gulf, well who gives a poo poo right? As long as there's no electric cars.
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