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I like Quentin, though I admit that a large part of that stems from him being (one of?) the only bisexual male leads on television. Plus, the actor's funny.
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Feb 6, 2018 04:52
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I mean he hooks up with Elliot but he was wasted on magic booze or something so I'm not sure it was really an active choice or something he'd identify as. Then again its not really my place to say what Quentin is or isn't but I don't recall him ever actually suggesting he was into dudes outside of that night.
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STAC Goat posted:I mean he hooks up with Elliot but he was wasted on magic booze or something so I'm not sure it was really an active choice or something he'd identify as. Then again its not really my place to say what Quentin is or isn't but I don't recall him ever actually suggesting he was into dudes outside of that night. Quentin just lacks the self confidence to refuse the human attention that genital contact represents
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Feb 6, 2018 05:00
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STAC Goat posted:I mean he hooks up with Elliot but he was wasted on magic booze or something so I'm not sure it was really an active choice or something he'd identify as. Then again its not really my place to say what Quentin is or isn't but I don't recall him ever actually suggesting he was into dudes outside of that night. It's been a while since I read the books, but I seem to remember it being implied that Quentin is a little jealous that Eliot never hit on him more. I think Quentin is attracted to Eliot, but not so much that he would ever pursue him outside of a drunken threeway. I think he's probably like a 1 or a 2 on the Kinsey Scale. Certainly not a hard 3 or 4.
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Feb 6, 2018 05:04
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Martha Stewart Undying posted:When is it established quentin is bisexual? In addition to what's been suggested -- and I think the emotion bottles are a little less rohypnol than has been suggested -- there's some very strong subtext during Umber's dinner date last finale.
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Feb 6, 2018 06:12
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Nihonniboku posted:It's been a while since I read the books, but I seem to remember it being implied that Quentin is a little jealous that Eliot never hit on him more. I think Quentin is attracted to Eliot, but not so much that he would ever pursue him outside of a drunken threeway. I think he's probably like a 1 or a 2 on the Kinsey Scale. Certainly not a hard 3 or 4. Wait, there's a Gay scale?
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Rocksicles posted:Wait, there's a Gay scale? Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not. But sexuality is a spectrum, and the Kinsey Scale says that people range from a 0 to 6. 0 being completely straight and 6 being completely gay. Studies have found that more people lie somewhere in the middle than you'd think, they just don't necessarily identify that way. While something like 75% of gay people are out, only like 20% of bi people are out.
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Rocksicles posted:Wait, there's a Gay scale? Sexuality is a spectrum, this is like basic stuff.
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Feb 6, 2018 13:00
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Rocksicles posted:Wait, there's a Gay scale? Yes
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Open Source Idiom posted:I like Quentin, though I admit that a large part of that stems from him being (one of?) the only bisexual male leads on television. Plus, the actor's funny. But Elliott is bi.
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Alhazred posted:But Elliott is bi. I think this is maybe why the Kinsey scale is a better descriptor of these characters. After all, neither of them identify as bi. The one time Quentin had sex with Eliot in the show, he was super drunk, and it was in a MMF threesome. Eliot, the same situation. And with his wife, it took him having sex utilizing his golem with another guy in another world in order to impregnate his wife. I'd say Quentin is maybe a Kinsey 1, and Eliot is maybe a Kinsey 5. But all of this is over-analysis of some fictional characters.
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Nihonniboku posted:I think this is maybe why the Kinsey scale is a better descriptor of these characters. After all, neither of them identify as bi. The one time Quentin had sex with Eliot in the show, he was super drunk, and it was in a MMF threesome. Eliot, the same situation. And with his wife, it took him having sex utilizing his golem with another guy in another world in order to impregnate his wife. and Margo is like a Kinsey 3, she's down to gently caress all the hotties
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Martha Stewart Undying posted:When is it established quentin is bisexual? spoilers but it worked
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Nihonniboku posted:Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not. But sexuality is a spectrum, and the Kinsey Scale says that people range from a 0 to 6. 0 being completely straight and 6 being completely gay. Studies have found that more people lie somewhere in the middle than you'd think, they just don't necessarily identify that way. While something like 75% of gay people are out, only like 20% of bi people are out. I didn't realise there was a scientific scale for it.
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Rocksicles posted:I didn't realise there was a scientific scale for it.
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Well, I guess that definitely answers the question as to whether or not Q is bi.
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Feb 8, 2018 03:37
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Well, that kiss happened. I'm going to move Quentin up the scale from a 1 to maybe a 2 or 3. Edit: The peaches couldn't possibly be a reference to Call Me By Your Name, could they? Oh poo poo. Quentin has a 5 year old with this woman? They really are spending a long time there. Whaaaat is going on here? Quentin and Eliot as gay dads?
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Feb 8, 2018 03:37
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I guess they decided to write those two out of the show!
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Feb 8, 2018 03:44
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That whole mosaic scene was so well done, plus the ending when they remember. I guess we're getting the whole Julia being a demigod storyline this season?
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Feb 8, 2018 05:34
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holy poo poo that was such a beautiful episode. The quest was the beauty of life. they lived a beautiful life together, that's how to solve the mosaic.
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Feb 8, 2018 08:21
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That was amazing. The whole Mosaic scene was just so good. Really moving and well done. I really like this show but I didn't expect this from it. Also it was kind of fun how it also answered the last page discussion regarding Quentin's sexuality. Though man, if they remember everything, it most leave some emotional scarring from essentially just having lost a wife, child and grandchildren. Unless magic somehow make them exist.
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Atreiden posted:That was amazing. The whole Mosaic scene was just so good. Really moving and well done. I really like this show but I didn't expect this from it. they definitely existed, I'd love to see Quentin descendants in Fillory sometime. Margo didn't make that unhappen. It all happened--and now they remember it, and yeah I'm excited to see how it affects Quentin and Elliot's relationship from here on. That's some powerful The Inner Light level poo poo.
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Tiggum posted:They have to exist because otherwise Quentin couldn't have given the key to Jane and arranged for the letter to reach Margot so she could go get the key back from Jane's body. Plus the basket of peaches and note was still at the wedding after Margo's trip to get them.
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Lupus Rufus posted:holy poo poo that was such a beautiful episode. The quest was the beauty of life. they lived a beautiful life together, that's how to solve the mosaic. Actually crying here. Fantastic episode. If they don't get some recognition for it it will be a crime. I'm so glad i decided to catch up with season 3.
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In a weird way, that episode makes me wish the show were less serialized. I’d love to show that one episode to someone and say “this is what this show can do, juxtaposed with all the sophomoric stuff.” But then half the episode is multi season arcs. I guess it’s more something I’ve been thinking about than a real criticism. I’m gonna go have a cry. Also, next week is Felicia Day... which is a decision I’d normally take a swipe at don’t want to do much right now.
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Jane asking for the key and Quentin saying “ahhh, it kinda took a while” was hilarious.
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Rhyno posted:She's enough of a reason for me to not want to watch the next episode. I was neutral on her until Supernatural. It just felt like they were trying so hard to pander to a fanbase with that character every time she was on screen.
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That mosaic storyline was beautiful, heartwarming, and sad. Jesus this show is always better than you think it would be.
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Fauxshiz posted:That mosaic storyline was beautiful, heartwarming, and sad. Jesus this show is always better than you think it would be. This episode was actually lovely and I don't often say that about any tv, to say nothing of Sexy Hogwarts/Narnia (yes I know they've largely outgrown that of late, but still). Elliott and Quentin as two dads was very sweet. Also I feel weird confessing this but Quentin's ponytails are always slightly different and always weirdly seem to work for him. I don't know why. MAGIC.
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It was such an awesome episode. I rarely rewatch tv but I'm rewatching this one.
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Feb 9, 2018 04:45
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That episode made me like Q a whole lot more.
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Feb 9, 2018 05:15
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I didn't love it quite as much as you guys (part of which I just chalk up to me not enjoying the show as much as you guys so not caring about the characters as much as you guys) but that was definitely a very sweet story and a high point for the show with character and storytelling sincerity. Like I said, I'm not at "it would be a crime if it doesn't get awards" level or anything but well done, Magicians. An episode I'd be comfortable recommending to people as something beyond "enjoyable trash." I genuinely didn't think you were capable of that. I definitely assume Quentin's (and I guess Elliot's, really) grandchildren are around somewhere. And yeah, it was genuinely hilarious at the bizarre timing of the answer on Q's leanings. I'm fairly indifferent to Felicia Day. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Feb 9, 2018 |
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She's the female Will Wheaton. But side bar..... wtf has she got to do with the show.
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I mean, she's an actress. On another note, Elliott's wife and daughter are going to turn out to be Quentin's descendants, right?
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Svensken posted:I mean, she's an actress. That's my view on Day, I generally like her work when I see it and she's been in loads of sci-fi/fantasy shows here and there in guest spots from what I know, seems like a natural fit for this show. Having Elliot's wife be a descendant from time fuckery is possible, I mean that family was already involved in time travel shenanigans before so there's certainly precedent. I'd be more interested to see a decent-sized family of alt-time relatives come in to help as part of the key quest. Oh, and I was kind of disappointed that the mosaic piece Quentin found didn't act as just a reference for what the design should look like and require him to actually build it out, I guess after seeing a fair number of attempts in the montage I had high hopes for seeing the finished version. Here's hoping with this latest key they've really got some mojo in their favor, so far the keys have been useful but very situational, and I have to believe a key that was a vital part of time travel abuse has some potent properties, even if there is the very sensible possibility that it's low on power after helping create you know, like 20 different versions of reality or whatever.
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