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Jiffletta
Dec 23, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Isn't that explicitly whole reason the right wing propaganda engine was created? So that, when a GOP politician did something as awful as Watergate again or worse, they wouldn't have to be held accountable by a free press? All the people who started the right wing propaganda engine were all Nixon cronies, right?

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Sandpuppy
Jun 16, 2012

Social Abscess
of the
Universe

I love those necktie banners. Now I can't wait to see Brown-Nose Ben's depiction of the Trump Loyalty Parade.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

Kopijeger posted:

"Channeled Agression":


I just got a call from Comcast this morning that my rates were hiking. This speaks to me :allears:

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

seiferguy posted:

I just got a call from Comcast this morning that my rates were hiking. This speaks to me :allears:

At least you got a call. :smith:

mistaya
Oct 18, 2006

Cat of Wealth and Taste

I can't believe even Kelly can write "Honest Cable CEO's" without his pen spontaneously exploding in rejection.

Is the Rall supposed to be ironic or is it actually saying rich people are abusers? I... I can't tell... :psyduck:

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

mistaya posted:

Is the Rall supposed to be ironic or is it actually saying rich people are abusers? I... I can't tell... :psyduck:

Ted Rall is dumb but he absolutely hates rich people to the proper degree

Basically the premise of it appears to be "#MeToo is good but what if we held the rich just as accountable for loving over workers as we are starting to do for sexual assault?"

(the first four words of that summary may vary depending on how much benefit of the doubt you are willing to give Rall)

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

mistaya posted:

I can't believe even Kelly can write "Honest Cable CEO's" without his pen spontaneously exploding in rejection.

Is the Rall supposed to be ironic or is it actually saying rich people are abusers? I... I can't tell... :psyduck:
It's "Why are these people being exposed as terrible now, when they've been blatantly lovely for years?"

Part of it is the whole one person a tragedy/a million a statistic thing: a handful of women abused adds a more personal face to the thing as compared to the millions who get screwed by capitalism. The other answer is that we've been conditioned to treat the poor as deserving of the abuse the ultra-rich heap upon them. Want better wages? Work harder, idiot. There's also a race angle here, as PoCs get this attitude even worse.

But really, this is Rall just being contrary and trying to act like he's one step ahead of the curve.

Trogdos!
Jul 11, 2009

A DRAGON POKEMAN
well technically a water/flying type


PSA: Unless this thread is brokebrained enough to ask for its return, from here on out I'm no longer going to bother posting Ben's deep state rants with his cartoons.

Erenthal
Jan 1, 2008

A relaxing walk in the woods
Grimey Drawer

Trogdos! posted:



PSA: Unless this thread is brokebrained enough to ask for its return, from here on out I'm no longer going to bother posting Ben's deep state rants with his cartoons.

Brokebrain raising his hand here. I’ve not survived incarnations of this thread since like 2008 just to be coddled like a baby.

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA
I have never read the words Ben wrote so I'm cool. Then again I never read anything and why I get all my news from cartoons.

I think I'm joking at least.

MelvinBison
Nov 17, 2012

"Is this the ideal world that you envisioned?"
"I guess you could say that."

Pillbug

Trogdos! posted:



PSA: Unless this thread is brokebrained enough to ask for its return, from here on out I'm no longer going to bother posting Ben's deep state rants with his cartoons.

It's a good measuring stick of how insane he's going (and I thought they were hilarious besides), so yeah, I guess I'm :shepface:.

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
I heart hammersickle too.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness
tag yourself I'm Hillary's bottle of Old Kremlin vodka

Dracula Factory
Sep 7, 2007


Prickly city angers me more than any other comic because it tries so aggressively hard to say nothing, and somehow this rear end in a top hat makes a living off of it. loving take a real stance on something you coward!

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


Erenthal posted:

Brokebrain raising his hand here. I’ve not survived incarnations of this thread since like 2008 just to be coddled like a baby.

:same: but keep doing the God's work in posting


DACK FAYDEN posted:

tag yourself I'm Hillary's bottle of Old Kremlin vodka

I'm HRC's shoe in the fountain

Retromancer
Aug 21, 2007

Every time I see Goatse, I think of Maureen. That's the last thing I saw. Before I blacked out. The sight of that man's anus.

I'm the national security represented by a stream of piss?

King Possum III
Feb 15, 2016

Here's the cartoon with the rant included;




Obama knew.

The Deep State has had a profoundly corrupting influence on our government.

Obama knew Hillary had an illegal, private ‘pay for play’ server and they both conspired to produce a false facts dossier on then presidential candidate Trump. The dossier was written with the help of the British spy and private investigator, Christopher Steele, whose anti-Trump bias was well known. He worked with his Russian operatives to produce a load of anti-Trump hogwash, long since proven to be nothing but lies. Steele was paid handsomely by Hillary to manufacture the dirt. Obama then used the dossier to obtain a FISA warrant, enabling him and his FBI cronies to spy on the Trump campaign.

This is far worse than Watergate, but partisan politics keeps the Democrats quadrupling down on their “Russia rigged the election” lie.



The corruption ran to the very top and there’s a fountain of evidence to prove it. These criminals are the biggest danger to our country. Not Russian ‘bots.’

—Ben Garrison

marathon Stairmaster sesh
Apr 28, 2009

ALL HAIL CEO NUGGET
1988-PRESENT

Trogdos! posted:



PSA: Unless this thread is brokebrained enough to ask for its return, from here on out I'm no longer going to bother posting Ben's deep state rants with his cartoons.

We sufffered years of Day By Day from Benjamins to the Sam Eliot's farmshed before its ban, we can take Garrisons' "THE DEEPSTATE IS AFTER ME! 4CHAN WILL SAVE ME" rants for longer. But no Dilbert rants, those are boring.

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope
The hammer and sickle is around the wrong way. Really takes me out of it.

Trogdos!
Jul 11, 2009

A DRAGON POKEMAN
well technically a water/flying type
That isn't even half of today's rant btw

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

quote:

This is far worse than Watergate, but partisan politics

loving lol

Jiffletta
Dec 23, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

marathon Stairmaster sesh posted:

We sufffered years of Day By Day from Benjamins to the Sam Eliot's farmshed before its ban, we can take Garrisons' "THE DEEPSTATE IS AFTER ME! 4CHAN WILL SAVE ME" rants for longer. But no Dilbert rants, those are boring.

There are Dilbert rants?

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
I checked Day By Day this morning out of curiosity, actually

Last time we discussed it ITT he was basically drawing incoherent grotesque porn; he seems to have backed off on that a little bit lately. The second-most-recent update was what appeared to be an incoherent attempt to depict some refugees (who speak with Jamaican accents) trying to mug the main characters only to be scared off by their manly guns.

just as a one-off though, not a complex story arc like My Roosevelts

Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


King Possum III posted:

Obama knew Hillary had an illegal, private ‘pay for play’ server and they both conspired to produce a false facts dossier on then presidential candidate Trump.
This is just conspiracy Mad-Libs.

Hillary's illegal Benghazi server in Eric Holder's Deep State IRS! :argh:

AnoHito
May 8, 2014

Starshark posted:

The hammer and sickle is around the wrong way. Really takes me out of it.

That's what it is! I've been staring at it wondering why it looks so off.

marathon Stairmaster sesh
Apr 28, 2009

ALL HAIL CEO NUGGET
1988-PRESENT

Jiffletta posted:

There are Dilbert rants?

I hate you for making me look him up to prove it.

http://blog.dilbert.com/2018/01/20/make-opponents-try-fail-prove-negative/ posted:

Sometimes you can prove an alleged event did happen, but you generally can’t prove something did nothappen. For example, if police have clear video footage of a crime in progress, several direct witnesses, and DNA evidence too, you can say they proved the defendant did the crime. But if your neighbor says an angel visited him in his bedroom at night, and there were no witnesses or physical traces left behind, you can’t prove it didn’t happen. All you can say for sure is that you don’t have any evidence of it happening.

So if you want to drive a political opponent crazy, allege that he or she did something evil, provide no direct evidence, and force them to do the impossible: Prove it didn’t happen.

Consider the Russian collusion investigation. We have seen no conclusive evidence that President Trump colluded with Russia to win the election. But the mere existence of an investigation into the allegations, along with lots of “Russia, Russia, Russia” news coverage on tangential topics, primes us to think “Where there is this much smoke, there must be fire.” To escape this trap, President Trump would need to do the impossible. He would need to prove he didn’t collude with Russia in some secret way that left no evidence behind. And you can’t prove a negative, as the saying goes.

So how do you defend yourself when you can’t prove something didn’thappen? One way is to turn the same trick against your attackers. An emerging story this week is that Republican Representative Devin Nunes wrote a secret memo detailing alleged various abuses to the FISA system that are somehow related to the same FBI and DOJ players who worked on the Russian collusion case. The public hasn’t seen the memo, politicians are barred from discussing it in detail, and there’s a good chance we will never see it in its full context. The longer we hear about the secret memo without knowing its contents, and the more speculation that gathers around it, the more the public will be thinking “Where there is this much smoke, there must be fire.”

You can’t prove a negative. But you can return the favor and put your opponent in the same position.

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

Trogdos! posted:



PSA: Unless this thread is brokebrained enough to ask for its return, from here on out I'm no longer going to bother posting Ben's deep state rants with his cartoons.

It is always Obama’s and Hillary’s fault. They’ve grown so accustomed to blaming Obama at this point they need to invite Illuminati conspiracies to find reasons to blame him for things still

Jiffletta
Dec 23, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
...the gently caress did I just read?

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

Jiffletta posted:

...the gently caress did I just read?

Dilbert man is an idiot who got lucky making a mundane comic about offices. This inflated his ego to an unbelievable size and now has decided he is a genius who can persuade people of anything and claims Trump is also a Great Persuader as well. He posts rambling pseudo intellectual rants that mean loving nothing and has somehow managed to turn twist his comic in such away around his bullshit that people reading it are finding themselves siding more with the pointy haired boss and Dilbert is now a douche bag

Dilbert man also believes in the alpha male MRA bullshit and one of his tactics to reply to people making fun of him is to show a picture of his abs :lol:

Dr. VooDoo fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Feb 7, 2018

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

loquacius posted:

just as a one-off though, not a complex story arc like My Roosevelts
well yeah, they know cracka will knockout mah jamaican roosevelts if they try

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

loquacius posted:

I checked Day By Day this morning out of curiosity, actually


I couldn't resist but have a look at it myself and then found myself reading the comment section, what a great place.

Raised By Birds
May 5, 2013

DACK FAYDEN posted:

well yeah, they know cracka will knockout mah jamaican roosevelts if they try

You best drat be so

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy
Pay-for-play servers? Are the different Hillary scandals bleeding into one another now?

Also if you have to keep crafting more and more elaborate conspiracies to explain away reality (let alone portraying your (out of power!) opponents as completely disingenuous and straight up evil ) maybe you need to come up for a breather and admit you were wrong before you drown in nonsense

Jiffletta
Dec 23, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Dr. VooDoo posted:

Dilbert man is an idiot who got lucky making a mundane comic about offices. This inflated his ego to an unbelievable size and now has decided he is a genius who can persuade people of anything and claims Trump is also a Great Persuader as well. He posts rambling pseudo intellectual rants that mean loving nothing and has somehow managed to turn twist his comic in such away around his bullshit that people reading it are finding themselves siding more with the pointy haired boss and Dilbert is now a douche bag

I'd accuse you of making that last part up for comic effect, but I honestly don't want to know at this point.

Ambitious Spider posted:

Pay-for-play servers? Are the different Hillary scandals bleeding into one another now?

No, see, Hillary also ran illegal premium servers for Overwatch.

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

Trogdos! posted:



PSA: Unless this thread is brokebrained enough to ask for its return, from here on out I'm no longer going to bother posting Ben's deep state rants with his cartoons.

The shoe lol

also we're gonna need one of our many talented editors to put an UberTrump head at the end of that pee stream.

A HUNGRY MOUTH
Nov 3, 2006

date of birth: 02/05/88
manufacturer: mazda
model/year: 2008 mazda6
sexuality: straight, bi-curious
peircings: pusspuss



Nap Ghost

marathon Stairmaster sesh posted:

quote:

So if you want to drive a political opponent crazy, allege that he or she did something evil, provide no direct evidence, and force them to do the impossible: Prove it didn’t happen.

Educated-stupid normies will tell you this is "slander" and "actionable" but they don't have the Genius Juice in their brainbox like me and Trump do

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Obama and Hillary no longer hold positions of power, the republicans controls all three branches of government, why are these idiots still complaining?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Jiffletta posted:

No, see, Hillary also ran illegal premium servers for Overwatch.

Still better than Donald Trump maining Hanzo then complaining about team comp.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

Ambitious Spider posted:

Pay-for-play servers? Are the different Hillary scandals bleeding into one another now?

Also if you have to keep crafting more and more elaborate conspiracies to explain away reality (let alone portraying your (out of power!) opponents as completely disingenuous and straight up evil ) maybe you need to come up for a breather and admit you were wrong before you drown in nonsense

When the Clinton Foundation got hacked, they found a folder called "Pay to Play." The actual contents of that folder were documents proving they were abiding by pay-to-play laws but that didn't matter to various idiots, who went crazy about it. I guess these same people would have us believe that criminals save details of their crimes saved in Crime.txt.

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Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Zivilyn Bane posted:

You best drat be so

Rare that Muir should be honestly defended for his legibility, but I'm pretty sure the "Roosevelt" was saying they should be sorry when he was interrupted by being shot.

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