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Schedule https://www.pyeongchang2018.com/en/game-time/results/OWG2018/en/curling/daily-schedule.htm Curling is fun to watch when you're bored. I have no idea why they yell at each other though, seems like a slightly raised voice would get the message across. Chicken gives you a better Olympic backstory than NBC: Chicken posted:Women's Curling Chicken posted:Men's Curling Chicken posted:Mixed Doubles Curling Inept fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Feb 16, 2018 |
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Inept posted:
It's because they really want their teammates to hurry hard, dumbass.
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Inept posted:
The best part is they do it with the intensity and anger they would make you think a town was being ethnically cleansed.
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Curling is cool and good. This year there is a new curling event at the olympics: mixed doubles! In this game a man and a woman team up to curl. Also each end has only five stones instead of eight, and there's something called a power play, and probably other esoteric differences who cares. Today America beat Russia in their first match of initial round-robin matches! Sorry if that's a spoiler but it's your fault for not watching mixed doubles curling live streaming! By the way you can officially live stream your mixed doubles curling from here: http://www.nbcolympics.com/curling You can do it free for 30 minutes and after that you have to log in through a TV provider like comcast or directv or whtaever. If you don't have any of those things or even if you do, here is how to stream the olympics: https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/7/16986832/winter-olympics-pyeongchang-2018-how-to-watch-live-stream
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Curling is the best sport and I am not currently accepting messages on this matter
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Curling is a good sport. I play a bit and watch a lot so if anybody has any questions just ask. For anybody in Canada (or possibly if you can pretend you're from Canada?) CBC has every single game on demand on their website for free! Mixed doubles is kind of weird but after watching the Canadian Olympics playdowns I've started to like it. The games are quicker and it rewards tactical thinking and soft precision shots over the "throw rocks really hard" strategy that some of the men's teams employ. It's also nice to have a curling event where the Canadians aren't medal favourites. I'll do some writeups on the teams later, but for now, I'll just leave this here so you can get PUMPED THE gently caress UP FOR CURLING!
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# ? Feb 8, 2018 05:09 |
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Mixed doubles started today and got off to a great start with a glorious win over
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Chicken posted:I'll do some writeups on the teams later Cool, I will put it in the OP. Please indicate which teams are villains so we know who to boo.
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Benne posted:Mixed doubles started today and got off to a great start with a glorious win over Oh I guess this isn't live then.
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All I remember from previous Winter Olympics is that Curling is awesome and the US Men's team has had some truly epic gently caress ups. Like 'give up 6 points in a frame" gently caress ups.
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EVE MUIRHEAD :
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Mixed Doubles Curling I know the least about mixed doubles curling but as it's started already I'll do what I can. Schedule Rules Mixed doubles is a brand new event at the Olympics and pretty new overall. It was invented in 2001 and the first world championship wasn't until 2008. As you might guess from the name, teams consist of two players, one male and one female. Teams play eight ends instead of the ten in men's and women's. Each team throws five rocks an end with one player throwing the first and fifth rocks and the other player throw the other three. The other player can either hold the broom for the thrower to aim at or they can sweep the rock. The thrower can also get up and sweep their own rocks. There aren't really any rules on this so you might see teams change it up depending on the type of shot. No rocks can be taken out of play until after the fourth rock is thrown. The biggest difference is that there are two rocks placed in play at the beginning of each end. The team that has last rock in the end gets a stone of their colour placed in the house at the back of the button. The other team has their stone placed as a guard in front of the other rock. Each team has the option, once per game when they have last rock, to move the rocks 4 feet to the side. This is called a powerplay. Just like hockey. I guess? To determine who gets last rock in the first end (also called the hammer) all players throw a rock as close to the middle as possible. The team with the smallest combined distance to the middle get last rock. This is an advantage! Format The eight teams play a round robin. The top four teams make the playoffs. Team 1 plays Team 4 and Team 2 plays Team 3 with winners going to the gold medal game and losers going to the bronze medal game. Teams Canada - Kaitlyn Lawes and John Morris If you just looked at the pedigree of these two you'd think they'd be shoo-ins for the gold medal. Each have won an Olympic gold medal and between them they have multiple national and world championships. The only problem is that they've won all those in men's and women's. The first time they played mixed doubles was at the Canadian Olympic playdowns a month ago! Their biggest challenge will be learning the game. I noticed at the playdowns that John sometimes dictates what's going to happen while Kaitlyn often has the better plan. If they're going to challenge for a medal John's going to need to shut the hell up once in a while. Hero or Villain? If you're not from Canada definitely villains, Heroes if you're Canadian. China - Wang Rui and Ba Dexin These two have won a silver and bronze medal at the last two mixed doubles world championships and they have have a handful of Olympic and world championship appearances. I haven't watched them play but if they're like the other Chinese teams they'll try to play a fairly defensive, low- scoring game. Hero or Villain? Hero if you're a fan of racial diversity at the Winter Olympics. Finland - Oona Kauste - Tomi Rantamki She's played for the Finnish national women's team for a while. He, on the other hand, has come out of nowhere. There's nothing about him on the internet. Is he a spy? A ringer? Nobody knows! All we know is that they are the most Finnish looking people in the world. Hero or Villain? Meh. Norway - Kristin Skaslien - Magnus Nedregotten I saw them beat Canada in the first game and they looked really good. He missed a few shots but she was on the ball. Or rock I guess. I don't think they played a single take out the whole game so expect to see some really high scoring games. Hero or Villain? They don't wear cool pants like their men's team compatriots, so villain. Definitely not Russia - Anastasia Bryzgalova - Alexander Krushelnitskiy They won the world mixed doubles two year's ago so they can definitely challenge for a medal here. Unlike most of the other teams almost all of their experience is in mixed doubles so expect them to have a leg up on the competition. Although they got stomped by the Americans so what do I know? Hero or Villain? I don't think Russia can avoid being the villains at these Olympics in any sport. United States - Rebecca Hamilton - Matt Hamilton Like the Canadians, these two have very little experience in mixed doubles but quite a bit of other curling experience. I assumed they'd be bad but they beat Russia so they might actually be good. He might be the most stereotypical American at the Olympics. Hero or Villain? I want to say villain, but that moustache is endearing... South Korea - Jang Hye-ji - Lee Ki-jeong These two have basically no experience and only got in because their country is hosting. They beat Finland in their first game though so the boisterous home crowd might just carry them to the playoffs. Hero or Villain? Underdog heroes! Switzerland - Jenny Perret - Martin Rios Switzerland has won more mixed doubles world championships than everybody else combined and they are definitely the gold medal favourites. Hero or Villain? Do you like cheering for the New England Patriots, New York Yankees, or Manchester United? Then cheer for Switzerland you jerk.
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Chicken is right, team Norway not wearing those pants is the most villainous act of these Olympics
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You're in luck! Just the pants, not the jackets obviously.
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This mixed doubles event is hosed up also awesome and I really enjoyed these first matches!!
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Chicken posted:I'll just leave this here so you can get PUMPED THE gently caress UP FOR CURLING! if anyone scrolled past this and didn't click on it then you hosed up badly!
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Curling is my favorite Olympic sport, and mixed doubles is awesome cause the person throwing the stone has to sweep. loving hell am I pumped for curling! They yell with the intensity of hockey but their game has the intensity of a nap!
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I'm not so sure on this.mixed doubles thing. I guess I'm a curling traditionalist.
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What's a good way to learn about curling basics? It seems like a fun sport to watch during the olympics but I never have any idea what the hell is going on.
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Not sure why this was a small link that nobody will ever see... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAtBVRFD_Zg
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the second session is ongoing https://twitter.com/Devin_Heroux/status/961560674919890944 https://twitter.com/Devin_Heroux/status/961561337254969344
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so they brush forward and back if they're trying to keep it going and sideways if they want to slow it? Seriously I wasn't being glib with my previous post I don't know a loving thing about curling but I want to.
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GobiasIndustries posted:so they brush forward and back if they're trying to keep it going and sideways if they want to slow it? Seriously I wasn't being glib with my previous post I don't know a loving thing about curling but I want to. The ice itself is covered in little ice beads that let the rocks slide. Because of that, under normal circumstance the rocks would only slide straight if you don't put any curl on the rock. However, in order for them to get the rocks to go where they want they need to curl. The problem is that once the rocks starts to spin it wants to continue spinning in place. So when the person throwing the rock goes to spin it, they have to put enough force behind it to make sure it reaches the other end of the ice. Otherwise it'll just do donuts in the middle of the ice. The role of the sweepers is to affect those beads on the ice. Sweeping wears down the beads and makes the rock slide straight. So you'll see them sweep for most of it because they don't want to rock curling until it's just right. The skip (captain) generally sits at the other end of the ice and is the person you hear screaming. They're giving directions to the sweepers depending on how the rock is moving. If it's not curling enough, the skip tells them to stop. if it's overcurling then the skip tells them to sweep harder. Sweeping also makes the rocks slide farther. This is why you'll generally see a player sweep the front of a rock that is about to stop so they can get it move an inch or so more. Players also do this to make the opposing rocks slide too far.
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Curling owns, I've been curling a few times and it's good fun all around. There's a curling club in Brooklyn, I should go. Anyway I'm here for curling. Can't wait to see how John Shuster fucks it up this year.
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I missed the vast majority of the Winter Olympics last time because of work, so I'm looking forward to curling this year
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Chicken posted:Their biggest challenge will be learning the game. I noticed at the playdowns that John sometimes dictates what's going to happen while Kaitlyn often has the better plan. If they're going to challenge for a medal John's going to need to shut the hell up once in a while. I noticed this last night during their time out. She had a better idea, John and the coach convinced her that John's idea was better, then he hosed up the throw. It happened a couple of other times during the game that allowed Norway to steal.
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quote:South Korea - Jang Hye-ji - Lee Ki-jeong They just missed a draw to beat China and start off 2-0 too. China had to screw up pretty badly in the 8th end to get it there though.
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GobiasIndustries posted:so they brush forward and back if they're trying to keep it going and sideways if they want to slow it? Seriously I wasn't being glib with my previous post I don't know a loving thing about curling but I want to. In addition to what Stretch Marx said, a few years ago there was some weird fabric that they used on brooms that would change the curl of the rock depending on the angle the sweeping was done at. They banned the hell out of it but a few players will still sweep like that. Also in mixed doubles you'll see people sweeping in all kinds of weird positions so that they don't block the view of the other person. I am sick as hell today which means I get to stay home from work and watch curling through a fever which is awesome! I'm going to watch all the Canada games obviously but tell me if some of the other games were good.
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Chicken posted:I am sick as hell today which means I get to stay home from work and watch curling through a fever which is awesome! This was how I became a curling fan. I had a horrible flu and curling was the only thing gentle and engaging enough to make me feel even a little bit better, and I imprinted on curling like a baby duck imprinting on a mama duck. I will forever love curling now.
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I swear to god Matt Hamilton looks like the perfect definition of Minnesotan.
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GobiasIndustries posted:What's a good way to learn about curling basics? It seems like a fun sport to watch during the olympics but I never have any idea what the hell is going on. The best way to learn about curling is to head down to your local curling club. If you live in Canada there;s almost certainly one within 10 km of you. Judging by your av you're American though so here's the Wikipedia list of curling clubs in the United States. There's more than you might think! Plenty in Minnesota, New England, and the northern prairie states, but there's also a bunch in Florida for snowbirds. And there's one in every state except Alabama, West Virginia, and Kentucky. Hawaii apparently has a paper curling association which uh I'm not sure what that means. In the rest of the world, Scotland, Scandinavia, and Switzerland will all have plenty of curling clubs. Outside of that it gets a little more sparse but if you live in a country that has winter, chances are there's a curling club somewhere. Most curling clubs will have a new curlers event at the beginning or end of the season and even if you don't know if you want to play you'll still learn the basics and have a better understanding of the physical effort needed. Sweeping is surprisingly difficult. Other than that, the best way to learn about curling is to watch with commentary. CBC's commentary team is ok if you can get that. Not sure what the American commentators are like. This glossary of curling terms should help you out with some of the weird words we use. The worst way to learn about curling is reading a post on an internet forum but I'll give it a try! Olympic curling (besides mixed doubles) has two teams of four players each playing for ten ends. The coloured circles are called the house and the largest ring is 12 feet in diameter. Rocks that are not touching the house do not count for points. The team that has the closest rock to the middle will get at least one point, with an additional point for each rock in the house that is closer to the middle than any of the opponent's rocks. Throwing the last rock in an end is an advantage, so the team that does not get points gets last roick in the next end. If no teams gets points, the hammer stays with the same team. So it might be better to get zero points and keep the hammer than to only get one point and lose the hammer. One player throws the rocks, one person holds the broom for the thrower to aim at, and the other two move alongside the rock to potentially sweep it. In general (but not always) the skip holds the broom for the first three players and then throws the last two rocks. The lead will throw the first two rocks and then sweep the rest. The second will throw the third and fourth rocks and sweep the rest. The third will sweep the first four rocks, throw the fifth and sixth rocks, and then hold the broom for the skip. In terms of tactics, the general strategy is to try and get at least two points when you have the hammer. If that's not possible, you generally want to blank the end. Teams with hammer will often play rocks to the sides of the house, leaving the middle open for the skip to throw their last rock to the middle. For the team without hammer, you want to either get one point or force the opponent to take one point. To do this you play lots of rocks in the middle of the sheet, trying to get one rock in the middle of the house protected by guards. Obviously these two strategies are very different so the interesting thing to watch for is when teams move away from their strategy to trying to disrupt their opponent's strategy. These strategies are not universal! Teams that are ahead will often try to keep as few rocks in play as possible and just take out all of their opponent's rocks. Teams that are behind will try to keep as many rocks in play as possible. There's a whole bunch of other stuff that goes into choosing shots but that's pretty advanced stuff. One rule that changes things a lot is the "four rock rule" (will become the five rock rule for most events next year). This rule says that if rocks are outside of the house, they cannot be removed by the opponents team until the fifth rock of the end. This encourages teams to play a few guards and setup the end. It tends to mean that more rocks are in play and makes for a more exciting game. If you have any other questions, just ask! Chicken fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Feb 8, 2018 |
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I'm stoked on how stoked South Koreans seem to be about curling tbh
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When is the calendar coming out? edit: its available!
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I bought that calendar for my sister for Christmas and cut her husband's face out of a picture and put him on the guys.
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Have been curling for about 8 years; I can confirm curling is cool and good, both to watch and to do. Throwing rocks is fun; sweeping is fun and really satisfying to do well; yelling at your guys to sweep HARD NO GUYS REALLY HARD YOU GOT THIS is also fun. (I play vice, so I get to do all of those things.) Seriously, I got into the sport after the Vancouver games and thought "huh, too bad there's no place around here to do that" but it turns out THERE IS. (Note, in the US, "around here" may mean something like a 45 minute drive. Not like in Canada where Toronto has like 25 curling clubs.) My club (Potomac Curling Club in Laurel, MD) does an open house (aka a "Try Curling" event) about twice a year, and the one we're having next week has been sold out for months because it's during the Olympics and everyone wants to see what the hell this is about. Also, I just love to talk about curling, so like Chicken, I'll answer any questions I can, whether about the Olympics, other competitions, or just the sport in general. (At one point, I tried to start a general curling thread in main SAS; it didn't last very long.)
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WTF I didn't realize USA/CAN played this morning. I'm missing so much (live) curling!
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Josh Lyman posted:WTF I didn't realize USA/CAN played this morning. I'm missing so much (live) curling! Yeah and the result of the match was massively spoilered on the page where you go to watch a stream of it, something that I suddenly remember was a constant source of irritation last time I watched the olympics. Goddamnit world I'm not up at 6 AM to watch curling don't shout the results out at the top of every page where sports are mentioned! e. Oh yeah so, curling experts, under what conditions are you allowed to start brushing in front of your opponent's stones? Do they have to cross a particular line first, or is it just any time you want but if that's the case, what stops you from getting into counter-sweeping tangled battles in the house?
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I wouldnt mind trying curling if I wasnt so terrified of walking on ice.
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I'm really warming up to this mixed doubles event
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McStabby posted:I noticed this last night during their time out. She had a better idea, John and the coach convinced her that John's idea was better, then he hosed up the throw. It happened a couple of other times during the game that allowed Norway to steal. Hopefully its just people unfamiliar with each other falling into their regular skip/third roles. I wonder what the dynamic would have been with the planned Morris/Homan pair as theyd both be used to calling the shots. Leperflesh posted:
You can sweep the other teams shot behind the t-line (the line that cuts across the centre of the rings). Usually by then it will be clear enough what will happen that only one team will want to sweep it.
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