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Aphrodite posted:Wait, Fury Road has romance and prominent male characters. Fury Road doesn’t have romance uhm like at all and Max, while prominent, has like 10 lines in the whole movie. The movie is about Furiosa, hence the subtitle. Immortan Joe is like an idea more than a character, which is why we never see his face unmasked or revealed. The idea he represents is dead when he dies, the man is irrelevant. Sorry if I’m slipping into SuperMechaGodzilla territory, I talked myself blue about MM:FR when it dropped and I still think it’s the best action movie in the last 10 years
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Bust Rodd posted:Fury Road doesn’t have romance uhm like at all and Max, while prominent, has like 10 lines in the whole movie. The movie is about Furiosa, hence the subtitle. Sure it does: Nux and Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Feb 8, 2018 |
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Feb 8, 2018 15:35
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So, like, in the JJ2 trailer Slow clapper is totally a killgrave hallucination right?
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bunnyofdoom posted:So, like, in the JJ2 trailer Yeah, they've said outright before that Jessica is suffering some amount of PTSD from Kilgrave still, and probably always will. That kind of trauma rarely goes away completely.
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Feb 8, 2018 15:54
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Re: Black Widow’s age, Zola literally says she was born in 1984 in Winter Soldier. Same age as Scarlett. https://youtu.be/KwjXPA8mZYk To keep this more on topic, it’s a little disappointing that Daredevil and Widow have a decades long comics relationship that will never show up in the MCU due to the different Movie/TV lanes.
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Feb 8, 2018 16:11
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Bust Rodd posted:Black Falcon 
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Feb 8, 2018 22:02
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as a general rule if a black hero doesn't have electricity powers and isn't Spawn they have "black" in their name
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I couldn't decide if that was worth drawing attention to or if it just deserved a pass on the grounds of "Black Lightning, Black Panther, Black Vulcan... I see a troubling pattern".
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it's absolutely worth drawing attention to but it's not really a unique issue to that character like, it's kind of loving sad and astounding that Spawn of all characters is probably the most famous black superhero where his race isn't used as a gimmick in any way (and he also doesn't inexplicably have electric powers)
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Feb 8, 2018 22:12
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STAC Goat posted:I couldn't decide if that was worth drawing attention to or if it just deserved a pass on the grounds of "Black Lightning, Black Panther, Black Vulcan... I see a troubling pattern". Black Vulcan wanted to be called Supervolt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKbGnzmidsw
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Feb 8, 2018 22:13
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:it's absolutely worth drawing attention to but it's not really a unique issue to that character ... Blade?
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Feb 8, 2018 22:15
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:as a general rule if a black hero doesn't have electricity powers and isn't Spawn they have "black" in their name Except for the bit where this particular hero has never been called that.   
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Feb 8, 2018 22:18
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Phylodox posted:... John Stewart too.
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Feb 8, 2018 22:19
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STAC Goat posted:John Stewart too. Hoping Bishop gets some love after Deadpool 2
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Bust Rodd posted:Black Widow can’t carry a whole film on her own, not because ScarJondoesnt have the range, but because Black Widow doesnt have the range. I would argue Scarjo doesn't have the range. I know she's headlined a lot of "good" movies but she's so drat bland to me. I hope they give her some meaty scenes and range in the Black Widow movie. quote:How do you think Black Falcon feels/War Machine feels about being black heroes in the MCU but Black Panther is basically being sold as the first Black Super Hero of the generation. Is it because they just have armor and BP has actual powers? Or is because BP is like a real hero in his own whereas War Machine and Falcon need a team to really shine. Falcon and War Machine were kinda goofy sidekicks. I'm not going to go into racist tropes but the closest we got to either of them celebrating their blackness or even addressing it was Falcon telling Iron Man he'd have to "Mark Furhman" him. Which is probably my favorite line in the whole movie. Most of the reason Black Panther is being celebrated is because it's black as gently caress. RareAcumen posted:When I brought up Black Widow maybe also having been given some kind of serum like Captain America, I just meant the character in general. Not specifically in the whole movie connection. Falcon would be a great foil to BW, better than Hawkeye, honestly. My hope is that when Evans leaves they let Falcon become Captain America instead of Bucky. Black Panther's sales are amazing so hopefully they get the hint and let Falcon take the mantle and give him his own movie. So in my head it's something like: Falcon becomes Cap -> Black Widow movie (with Falcon!Cap being the side character, like BW has been in to CA, so it's circular and carries emotional weight) - > Falcon!Cap Solo film
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Black Widow: Agent of SHIELD, drat it! The only way to possibly get them in the movies.Koalas March posted:Falcon would be a great foil to BW, better than Hawkeye, honestly. My hope is that when Evans leaves they let Falcon become Captain America instead of Bucky. Black Panther's sales are amazing so hopefully they get the hint and let Falcon take the mantle and give him his own movie. It sort of feels like turning Sam into Captain America and then immediately making him a side character to someone else is actually kind of dismissive and patronizing. No? Like, if you're going to introduce a new Cap - whether its Falcon or Bucky - seems like you have to commit and immediately make him "Cap" with the A List spot or else you're just keeping them as sidekicks.
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Feb 8, 2018 23:11
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Black Bolt
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STAC Goat posted:Black Widow: Agent of SHIELD, drat it! The only way to possibly get them in the movies. The television and movie divisions of Marvel are completely separate from one another and have been since August 2015. You aren't going to see anyone from AoS or the Netflix shows popping up in the movies.
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Timby posted:The television and movie divisions of Marvel are completely separate from one another and have been since August 2015. You aren't going to see anyone from AoS or the Netflix shows popping up in the movies. I know. Its just a dumb idea of mine that since both SHIELD in the movies and a Black Widow movie seem like impossibilities I just want it all in one.
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I’m sorry I thought his name was Black Falcon, I see now that he is simply Black and a ‘The Falcon’. I always appreciated that Spawn was always black even when he didn’t have skin anymore. Although I always chuckle when I think that Todd McFarlane’s answer to creating a strong black role model was a homeless, disfigured Veteran.
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Bust Rodd posted:I always appreciated that Spawn was always black even when he didn’t have skin anymore. Except when he turned into a white guy. Because after he became a superhero his choices were either McDonald’s dumpster ground beef face or Jack McBrayer.
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An hour and a half of black widow doing a bunch of unnecessary flips sounds like a boring rear end movie to me. She is such a lovely, generic spy that can fight character.
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Feb 9, 2018 02:34
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Field Mousepad posted:An hour and a half of black widow doing a bunch of unnecessary flips sounds like a boring rear end movie to me. She is such a lovely, generic spy that can fight character. But what if we were to add in Roy Harper from Arrow?
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Feb 9, 2018 02:48
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A good movie can be made out of anything. It's a matter of writing/cinematography.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Uh, not quite. They've not given away who most of the new actors are playing, but we know that Janet McTeer and David Tennant are recurring this season, and Leah Gibson and J.R. Ramirez are going to be new regulars. yeah, that's what I meant
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BiggerBoat posted:Black Bolt You mean Blackagar Boltagon?
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Field Mousepad posted:An hour and a half of black widow doing a bunch of unnecessary flips sounds like a boring rear end movie to me. She is such a lovely, generic spy that can fight character. Worked well for Jason Bourne.
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homullus posted:Worked well for Jason Bourne. He's not part of the marvel universe though. If you had him next to a god, an unstoppable living tank and billion dollar tech suit man I would have said the same thing about him.
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STAC Goat posted:It sort of feels like turning Sam into Captain America and then immediately making him a side character to someone else is actually kind of dismissive and patronizing. That's what they did to Steve Rogers, tho
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Field Mousepad posted:He's not part of the marvel universe though. If you had him next to a god, an unstoppable living tank and billion dollar tech suit man I would have said the same thing about him. Sorry, I inferred that you were talking about a standalone Black Widow movie being boring.
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Field Mousepad posted:He's not part of the marvel universe though. If you had him next to a god, an unstoppable living tank and billion dollar tech suit man I would have said the same thing about him. Yeah but what if he rolls up a magazine and uses it as a weapon?
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I generally don’t mind Black Widow, but she was awful in Iron Man 2. And she’s pals with the Arrow, the worst avenger.
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Field Mousepad posted:He's not part of the marvel universe though. If you had him next to a god, an unstoppable living tank and billion dollar tech suit man I would have said the same thing about him. So...Hawkeye? Like, he was even in a Bourne movie.
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Where does The Shoveler fit into these power rankings?
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homullus posted:Sorry, I inferred that you were talking about a standalone Black Widow movie being boring. I was. But I'm pretty sure a black widow movie would have some super hero cameos. I think it could work as a Netflix series, not a feature length film.
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It could work... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_5KgpN38hM
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Burning_Monk posted:It could work... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_5KgpN38hM More like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxCjqhDD7X4
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Azhais posted:Where does The Shoveler fit into these power rankings? I dunno. He shovels well. In fact he shovels better than any man I have ever seen... Samizdata fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Feb 9, 2018 |
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Field Mousepad posted:I was. But I'm pretty sure a black widow movie would have some super hero cameos. I think it could work as a Netflix series, not a feature length film. It's a shame the Netflix series characters will never appear in the movies because a Black Widow/Punisher teamup/buddy murder movie would be fun.
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I'd love to see Daredevil appear in the Spider-man movies, those two always had great team ups in the comics
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