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Running around as a colonizing Japan generally doing Japan things. Like not being able to do poo poo on the asian mainland, and getting attacked by Ming. I ended up defending Japan, Taiwan(they attacked over Taiwan), and Brunei from Ming by boating around and repeatedly stackwiping the poo poo out of them with a 20infantry/4cav stack 
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:How the gently caress is the Papacy's fleets of transports and Light ships completely clowning on my fleets of Heavy Ships? I've lost forty heavies to them losing like five Lights, across four battles where I had ten Heavies in my fleet and they have ppbbbt 17 Lights and 50 transports? You're basically not killing them fast enough before your heavies lose morale and then get cut up by the rest of the fleet. If the 40 heavies were in one fleet then it'll do a lot more damage to the point where the morale hits from losing ships causes the Papacy's fleet to lose morale in a cascade. tl;dr Don't split fleets and don't be outnumbered.
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Feb 9, 2018 08:12
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There's also naval engagement width to consider. By default it's 25, and each heavy ship takes 3, so if you've got 10 heavies only 8 of them will actually be fighting. I don't know what tech level you're at, but let's say DIP 15 so that's 480 firepower and 240 hull points. On the pope's side, he can squeeze all 17 light ships and 8 transports at once for a total of 399 firepower and 348 hull points. They have less firepower but more hull points than you, and their large reserve of transports can easily beat your weakened heavies once they get on the line.
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Feb 9, 2018 08:20
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Drill your boats.
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Feb 9, 2018 08:48
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Is there any info on how the new content pack is going to handle the English civil war? In the current game it just spawns a bunch of noble rebels, right?
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Feb 9, 2018 08:55
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Node posted:Drill your boats. That sounds counterproductive.
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Feb 9, 2018 11:07
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MrBling posted:That sounds counterproductive. Next thing you know people will be lighting fires below decks hoping it'll make the ship go faster
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Feb 9, 2018 12:42
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Look, the problem with boats is when they fill up with water and sink, right? So you just need to drill some drainage holes to let that water back out!
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Feb 9, 2018 12:54
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as soon as one ship is destroyed the others take a morale hit and it snowballs from there so micro your naval battles and look for a ship that's about to die and retreat before you lose all of them. also never use galleys
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Feb 9, 2018 13:22
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Seems like a bit of a design flaw if losing a 12-gun galley gives the same morale hit as losing a 40-gun carrack.
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Feb 9, 2018 13:34
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This was a fun run Started off just going for Abu Bakr II's Ambition. Got it fairly quickly but I was enjoying the game so I said gently caress it, let's make it African Power And Also A Sun God But As Mali. The game ended up having a cool flow of bosses - Songhai in the early game, then the Iberians and Britain mid game, and finally a series of apocalyptic hellwars with the Ottomans in the end game. Fortunately the Europeans showed little interest in colonising Africa so aside from a couple of outposts I was left to consolidate it for myself and get caught up on tech before challenging them for South America. Europe itself got a bit weird with very little intervention on my part (just fighting the Iberians to kick them out of South America and Morocco). France got fuckin rolled - England not only never lost its holdings in Northern France, it actually expanded them, and Spain and Swole Protestant Austria both took substantial areas of France too. Almost the entire HRE went Protestant but no-one else. The Papal States took over almost all of Italy and a bit of Southeast France. The Commonwealth never formed and Poland and Lithuania got eaten by Sweden, Russia, and Fuckin Hungary of all people. Who later got eaten by the Ottomans as usual. Riga survived and got kinda big. Not in Europe but Kathiawar went nuts which I hadn't seen before.
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Feb 9, 2018 15:09
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Red Bones posted:Is there any info on how the new content pack is going to handle the English civil war? In the current game it just spawns a bunch of noble rebels, right? The current game it's a disaster that ticks up from a couple conditions involving the English monarchy. You can choose to support Cromwell and become a republican dictatorship or go against him and get rid of parliament. The disaster does cause a bunch of noble rebels to start popping up though.
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Feb 9, 2018 16:11
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here's a good tool to use when trying to spawn institutions through development: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DFV5oZ5OG0sS7gfNK1XgvC-RmfUbTMqO2bVMes0YHmU/edit#gid=0 found it on reddit
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Feb 9, 2018 17:54
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wait if I mothball forts does all the garrison manpower just disappear?
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Feb 9, 2018 18:37
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fuf posted:wait if I mothball forts does all the garrison manpower just disappear? Garrisons don't use manpower. They just sort of spring forth from the ether.
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Feb 9, 2018 18:40
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AnoHito posted:Garrisons don't use manpower. They just sort of spring forth from the ether. ok phew, thanks.
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Feb 9, 2018 18:41
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Fister Roboto posted:There's also naval engagement width to consider. By default it's 25, and each heavy ship takes 3, so if you've got 10 heavies only 8 of them will actually be fighting. I don't know what tech level you're at, but let's say DIP 15 so that's 480 firepower and 240 hull points. On the pope's side, he can squeeze all 17 light ships and 8 transports at once for a total of 399 firepower and 348 hull points. They have less firepower but more hull points than you, and their large reserve of transports can easily beat your weakened heavies once they get on the line. Agean90 posted:how many 0's is the """random""" number generator giving you during these battle op
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Feb 9, 2018 18:42
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Yeah I'm lazy and this information is not conveniently placed in the game's UI (that I have found). That still doesnt explain how 17 of their outdated Light ships plus zounds transports beat an up-to-date Heavy and 25 Lights. Unless you give us a screenshot of the battle or some more detail from some other source, I don’t think you’re going to find any useful information here. That being said, keep in mind light ships have the low hull strength (lower than transports if memory serves).
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Feb 9, 2018 19:11
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Another thing is if you're behind on mil tech, particularly at a level where you get a huge boost to artillery fire like 16 or 22, it could make a huge difference. Ship damage is affected by your artillery fire damage.
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Feb 9, 2018 19:33
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MuffinsAndPie posted:What do you all do once you've vassalized your majority of HRE elector princes and become emperor? Do you just release them leaving them pissed off, do you annex them leaving everyone pissed off, or do you just let them stay your vassals leaving a draining imperial authority? I'm playing as Saxony and Austria actually managed 4 reforms by 1550, so my plans quickly changed from conquer all neighbors to just gunning for revoke the privileges. Keep the electors as vassals. To get more authority, get into wars with the HRE members and punch them until more countries come out, to increase the total number of princes.
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Feb 9, 2018 19:40
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:How the gently caress is the Papacy's fleets of transports and Light ships completely clowning on my fleets of Heavy Ships? I've lost forty heavies to them losing like five Lights, across four battles where I had ten Heavies in my fleet and they have ppbbbt 17 Lights and 50 transports? Make sure you haven't run out of sailors. If you have, your ships are probably going around with less than full health.
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Feb 9, 2018 19:42
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Fister Roboto posted:Another thing is if you're behind on mil tech, particularly at a level where you get a huge boost to artillery fire like 16 or 22, it could make a huge difference. Ship damage is affected by your artillery fire damage. Whoah really? I had no idea. Is it just the raw number or does artillery combat ability matter too? Anyway, for those battles, are you really composing all those fleets with a single heavy? I know they look like hot poo poo but that's practically a rounding error on the dice rolls if you're dealing with full stack navies otherwise. Why did you not have your 40 heavies grouped into a few proper battlefleets? Or do you have 40 individual trade fleets or something strange? I'm kind of confused. And outdatedness doesn't matter for ships all that much, especially for non-heavies. Sure it's helpful to keep up to date but a few not-even-that-bad dice rolls will nullify any advantage on that front. If your cutting edge war-fleet of 40 heavies that you'd split into a few full stacks was getting resoundingly whooped by Papal fleets that don't have a single warship in them it's one thing, but from what it sounds like you're pitting trade/transport fleets with a single heavy in them against another trade/transport fleet. Also are you really sure they don't have any galleys anyway? The AI, especially on the Mediterranean, spams the things like crazy. Koramei fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Feb 9, 2018 |
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Feb 9, 2018 19:51
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According to the wiki, it's just artillery fire: https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Naval_warfare#Combat_statistics
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Feb 9, 2018 19:58
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Fister Roboto posted:Another thing is if you're behind on mil tech, particularly at a level where you get a huge boost to artillery fire like 16 or 22, it could make a huge difference. Ship damage is affected by your artillery fire damage. What the gently caress I've played this dumb game for like 500 hour why am I only just hearing about his
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Feb 10, 2018 02:22
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Can we have it so that the war leader can always control who gets control of occupied provinces? I'm really sick of my "allies" sniping provinces that I want to take for myself.
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Feb 10, 2018 04:46
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Not the Messiah posted:What the gently caress I've played this dumb game for like 500 hour why am I only just hearing about his I always understand easily why I've lost an army battle, but never understand anything ever about naval battles in this game. It's the 2nd worst thing right now behind all the different bars i'm filling to 100
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Feb 10, 2018 05:05
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Senor Dog posted:I always understand easily why I've lost an army battle, but never understand anything ever about naval battles in this game. It's the 2nd worst thing right now behind all the different bars i'm filling to 100
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Feb 10, 2018 05:28
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420 Gank Mid posted:Next thing you know people will be lighting fires below decks hoping it'll make the ship go faster Napoleon was, secretly, the worlds dumbest person ever born.
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Feb 10, 2018 06:16
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Fister Roboto posted:Can we have it so that the war leader can always control who gets control of occupied provinces? I'm really sick of my "allies" sniping provinces that I want to take for myself. noooooo don't take my province sniping
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Feb 10, 2018 12:37
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Fister Roboto posted:Can we have it so that the war leader can always control who gets control of occupied provinces? I'm really sick of my "allies" sniping provinces that I want to take for myself. A real "ally" wouldn't begrudge their friends taking the territory an entire generation of their young men died to capture in the war their so-called "friend" started 
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Feb 10, 2018 13:04
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marking anything you care about as a "vital interest" helps with province sniping and after that, well, i mean if the ai wants it and you call them in and they get there first it's only fair they get the occupation isn't it
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Feb 10, 2018 13:54
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Exactly. EU4 is ultimately a realpolitik simulator and that's what sets it apart from the likes of Civ and Total War. Don't complain when the AI realpolitiks. Alliances are never about friendships, such things don't exist for states, or at least didn't in the game's time period, and arguably still don't today. They're mutually convenient arrangements usually driven by a shared rivalry. Each state is out to look after number one.
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Feb 10, 2018 15:10
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“A thousand of our guys got to Sevilla before your 34k did so we own it now if you negotiate for it in a peace and there is no way we could negotiate a transfer to you” is not an accurate realpolitik simulator. “Oh by the way, we know you want it but since we occupied it but don’t want it you can’t negotiate for it at all” is really, really not an accurate realpolitik simulator. In general EU would benefit from much more comprehensive province swapping and peace making capabilities. Much of that era had these wars that ended with complex peace deals where both sides transferred land to the other let alone intricate multiparty arrangements. Assuming Paradox could work out the AI and UI for that. It’s a hard set of problems so I don’t see it coming anytime soon. But let’s not pretend it’s realism. doingitwrong fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Feb 10, 2018 |
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Feb 10, 2018 17:22
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Wait, are you telling me that I can't ask for land AND give up land in a deal??
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Feb 10, 2018 17:33
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Prav posted:marking anything you care about as a "vital interest" helps with province sniping Yeah I always do that. But then while I'm distracted elsewhere (usually halfway around the world sieging down an OPM), my enemy takes back the province, and then my ally beelines to take it back for themselves. Then for some strange reason, my enemy never seems to take back provinces that are occupied by my ally. The best part is that this happens in wars where I call allies in with favors.
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Feb 10, 2018 17:33
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I wish that there wasn't such a tight restriction on who can form Rum, it would make sense if it could be formed by Iranian cultures (much like the Persia decision it would change your primary culture to Turkish) or at the very least Azeris and Turkomen.
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Feb 10, 2018 18:09
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It is 1662. My Manpower cap is 405k. I get the feeling that if I take Quantity I could probably get the "Over a Million" achievement. I wonder if I could do it without (assuming I will continue to take and state more land and invest excess mil points in manpower)... edit: ahaha I just noticed that I dunked on Portugal so hard their colonial nations are invading them 
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Feb 10, 2018 19:39
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You probably can, but quantity's manpower idea is the very first one you unlock, so you could just grab that one idea and then refund it after you get the achievement without losing much. Just remember you need to actually have the million dudes, not just the capacity to have them.
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Feb 10, 2018 19:44
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Koramei posted:You probably can, but quantity's manpower idea is the very first one you unlock, so you could just grab that one idea and then refund it after you get the achievement without losing much. I've been sitting with just the first Exploration idea unlocked so I could colonize a bunch of the empty spaces in Africa and whatnot (I'm incredibly rich so I just have 4 or 5 colonies going at one time despite only having one colonist). Going to drop that soon and maybe I'll just grab that first Quantity idea...
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To follow up on what Fister Roboto is saying... Commonwealth is at war with Russia and Sweden; they are on the offensive in Russia and have a good two dozen provinces occupied in Russia. I declare war on Commonwealth to take advantage of the distraction. Then this happens:  You have got to be kidding me. They just walk through the whole country because the AI is bad at forts. If I want to conquer those provinces now I have to go to war with Russia+Sweden OR wait for their war to end. Its horseshit AI dickmoves. Its also hilarious, but.... gently caress, man, thats shits annoying! edit: and just to be clear, my mission and wargoal is to conquer Halicz! AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Feb 10, 2018 |
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