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(EDIT: responding to post on previous page) I always just fiddled with that one until they were all lit up.  Assuming it works like it did in Exile 3 anyway. It may help to map out which labels are affected by which buttons, so you can see e.g. "oh, this button is the only one that affects that label, which means that I have to push it, and then figure out how to fix the labels it makes go away using some other buttons."Berke Negri posted:Eastern Caverns pacified, now to southern Avernum where I hear they have a bit of a problem with undead. You poor bastard, you started out with the sliths? Congratulations, you're now overlevelled for the northern caves. 
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I think I'm like level 13 or something before even getting to Mertis. I don't know how overleveled that is but the spiral pit is a pretty breeze at this point
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Feb 5, 2018 20:39
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Is the bless chest in the Tower of Magi infinite? Also is the bless effect permanent?
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Feb 5, 2018 20:43
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How screwed are you if you have a mage in an anama run? I'm kinda tempted to restart with a just full on Anama party.
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Feb 6, 2018 00:29
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Can I just say 'gently caress all magical skulls'? Is this annoying poo poo even worth it?
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Gorelab posted:How screwed are you if you have a mage in an anama run? I'm kinda tempted to restart with a just full on Anama party. Well, it means you wasted all the skill points and money you invested in mage spells, so in that sense it's better to plan for it from the start if you intend to join the Anama. I wouldn't particularly recommend joining them on a first playthrough anyway, since it makes the game harder overall.
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Fuckin'  Vogel got the effects backwards for the Tower of the Magi donation box. If you donate and pray, then you lose about 500 experience. If you steal and pray, then you gain about 200.
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Gorelab posted:How screwed are you if you have a mage in an anama run? I'm kinda tempted to restart with a just full on Anama party. Once you formally join the Anama you lose any and all access to your mage skills. If you relearn mage skills your rings will dissolve and you'll lose your membership. You'll need a handful of piercing crystals to tear down any obnoxious barriers as you quest. However (fun spoilers): Speak to the innkeep in Shayder and you'll be directed to the guy across the room, who will ask you to make a very illegal delivery to Lorelei. Take Ernest's portal to skip the checkpoints. Once you've completed the delivery you can buy counterfeit Anama rings from the black market in Lorelei. This will give you access to the Anama's inner sanctum, which you can rob blind. If you do this the entire city of Shayder will be permanently pissed off at you, so only do this if you have zero plans to ever return to Shayder. Horace Kinch fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Feb 6, 2018 |
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Feb 6, 2018 05:28
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Fuckin' I figure he'll fix it but it owns
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Now that Vogels five year plan of Avadon and Avernum alternation is over, is there any word on what his next project might be?
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Arrhythmia posted:Now that Vogels five year plan of Avadon and Avernum alternation is over, is there any word on what his next project might be? New IP then alternating it with Geneforge remakes.
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Feb 6, 2018 23:08
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Has he confirmed he’s doing the Geneforge remakes?
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Feb 6, 2018 23:24
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Blades of Avadon Sequences of Geneforge Nethergate 2: Roman Boogaloo But seriously Nethergate was great and I want more.
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moot the hopple posted:Has he confirmed he’s doing the Geneforge remakes? He's confirmed that he intends to remake at least the earlier Geneforge games at some point, but I don't think he's confirmed exactly when he's going to start.
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Took out Sss-Thsss and I'm now beloved by Avernum. Just about level 24. What's the soft cap again? Around 30-35? Starting to get strapped down in artifacts as well, taking on Drath went much smoother than I was worried about
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Berke Negri posted:Took out Sss-Thsss and I'm now beloved by Avernum. Just about level 24. What's the soft cap again? Around 30-35? Yeah. You start getting fewer benefits per level after 30, and 35 is about the practical limit to how high you can get without some really tedious and unnecessary grinding.
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Part of the reason for the soft cap is simply that there aren't high-level monsters to give any remotely substantial amount of experience past level 30, and experience rewards are scaled based on the level difference between you and your opponents. If you're level 33 and you're fighting level 25 monsters, you'll be getting single-digit experience points at best. The experience scaling also means that those traits that increase your experience gain are laughably worthless. Like, sure you might reach level N+1 a little earlier because of the trait, but that'll just knock down the experience you get from your level N enemies even lower, which will slow you down again.
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It's also worth noting that the way Vogel scales his games, unless you've really hosed up your party, by the end you'll be completely stomping anything except the uber-bosses (if he's even put any in the game you're playing).
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Yeah I just saved the Tower of Magi last night and the boss didnt even get a chance to fire off his death curse thing I'm not sure when the jump really happened though, being level 15 and 20 side by side numbers wise doesn't look like a huge game changing improvement but that's when I started picking up a lot of the higher end spells which are a pretty big deal
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Feb 8, 2018 02:38
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Not sure if it's just my grossly overleveled party but Hill Giants seem a lot squishier. The Giants in A1 & 2 were much tougher.
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Drakes!  Because it's real fair when an enemy gets three actions each turn, at least two of which can be a firebreath that deals 80% of my characters HP if it touches them. Plus Vogel decided to teach them to use the Leap spell when they're in melee range, instead of, y'know, using their AP to attack from melee range. And they invariably have a million melee flunkies so you can't chase them around either. Why yes, I'm salty about Kneese.I also feel like the random encounter rate has been ramped way the hell up on the Isle of Bigail. Like, none of these guys are even a speedbump any more, can I please stop having to fight them every fifteen steps?
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Bigail was hard. I've not revisited it to solve the extra issues. My team can't withstand drakes.
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In Avernum 1 if I do any of the "ending" missions does that end the game or do I get to go back and do the other two?
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Berke Negri posted:In Avernum 1 if I do any of the "ending" missions does that end the game or do I get to go back and do the other two? You can still continue on. (Except for the "escape from Avernum" one if you actually choose to go through with escaping, of course. That one does end the game.)
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Okay, I'm really enjoying Avernum 3 so far, but not being able to teleport to Lorelei and get the fake Anama rings just because the game thinks I'm under-leveled is super lovely. Would it really have been so hard to just put a 'you sense some powerful opponents on the other side of this gate, are you sure you want to do this?' message instead of just straight-up not allowing it?
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Someone in the Geneforge LP linked to Vogel's recent AMA: https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/7vyv09/im_jeff_vogel_founder_of_spiderweb_software_since/
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i done beat avernum 3. pretty good, but it basically turned into the magic show by the end there. dual wielding swords would gently caress up a dude, but 2 magic users would do the same amount of damage to 7 dudes.
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Hm. I seem to be being blocked off by barriers a lot more than I remember both in the crypt in the island, and the big tower. Where the heck do I find dispell barriers rank 2?
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Gorelab posted:Hm. I seem to be being blocked off by barriers a lot more than I remember both in the crypt in the island, and the big tower. Where the heck do I find dispell barriers rank 2? Not clear which game you're talking about. Avernum 1: Help the commander of Fort...Dranlon? In the northwest Eastern Gallery area. Avernum 2: Clear Sss-Thsss' old island fortress, which has been co-opted by the Empire. I think Fort Emerald has the quest. Avernum 3: Assuming it hasn't changed from Exile 3, complete Shayder's quest to be a diplomat to the troglodytes.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Not clear which game you're talking about. This guy spelunks.
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Gorelab posted:Hm. I seem to be being blocked off by barriers a lot more than I remember both in the crypt in the island, and the big tower. Where the heck do I find dispell barriers rank 2? Assuming you're talking about Avernum 3: Rank 1: Sharimik after being the Troglo ambassador, or by breaking in through the back. Rank 2: Taught by Black, in Calloc. Won't speak to you if you're wearing fake Anama rings. Rank 3: A book in Khoth's Lair
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Avernum 2: Clear Sss-Thsss' old island fortress, which has been co-opted by the Empire. I think Fort Emerald has the quest. I'm just going to add here that I love the boss of that quest as a concept. Not a powerful soldier or anything, just an everyday bureaucrat that Garzahd dropped a bunch of superpowers onto because gently caress you I'm a wizard.
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There's only one level of the negotiator trait, right?
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Correct, once you have it you should feel free to sell things. It's still a dumb trait to have, since it encourages veterans to hoard everything until they hit level 10 (or whenever it unlocks), and/or penalizes newbies for not doing so. It's not a huge penalty, but considering that your endgame power is substantially affected by how much money you collect...
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Correct, once you have it you should feel free to sell things. Yeah, I'm not fond of it. But many of his longtime customers are really into this sort of goofy pseudo-systems mastery poo poo and get upset when he cuts out the skill traps.
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I guarantee the fandom would not weep at the loss of Negotiator.
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You'll have more money than you can possibly spend without negotiator. Loot everything with a gold value, do sidequests, rob the Anama, sometimes the randomized job board requests are actually reasonable.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:It's still a dumb trait to have, since it encourages veterans to hoard everything until they hit level 10 (or whenever it unlocks), and/or penalizes newbies for not doing so. It's not a huge penalty, but considering that your endgame power is substantially affected by how much money you collect...
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MagusofStars posted:It’s also dumb because it’s super unexciting - 10% or whatever more money is a really useful trait but boring as hell. To be honest, most of building a character in the reremakes is not very exciting. The power curve is ridiculously smoothed out, and level plays a huge direct role in how much damage you give/take, so even an effective build just means you can take on higher-leveled content slightly earlier than before. That said, I have a dodge tank par excellence this time around: a nephil archer with max Dexterity and Gymnastics. Her damage is surprisingly good, though it doesn't hurt that on Hard difficulty, the game turns on friendly fire for spells so your mages can't blast everything with impunity quite so much. And she hardly ever gets hurt.
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And Tyler Too! posted:Assuming you're talking about Avernum 3: One very important note: The Rank 1 book only gives you basic knowledge of the spell, if you purchase the second rank before reading it then that money is basically wasted. Even worse, if you purchase the second rank before reading the first rank tome, and then put on the fake Anama Rings then you can't go back to purchase a second rank and are, as far as I can tell, permanently locked out of obtaining all three ranks. I'm enjoying the game overall, but running into this without a backup save or way to fix it is pretty loving frustrating.
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