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Laterite posted:David Angell probably wishes he skipped 9-11 too. 
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Laterite posted:David Angell probably wishes he skipped 9-11 too. Yikes
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Feb 10, 2018 01:12
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Laterite posted:David Angell probably wishes he skipped 9-11 too. goldmine
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Feb 10, 2018 01:24
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Laterite posted:David Angell probably wishes he skipped 9-11 too. Oh I feel very bad for laughing at that
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Feb 10, 2018 01:50
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I rewatched this episode tonight due to your post and it was choice. Knowing that this is coming, all the lovely comments Frasier and Niles are making about the restaurant just look horrible. Even though they're presented as laugh lines with the laugh track going. It really fucks with the audience in a good way. Also, third episode of the series, and this lays down a major theme for the next 11 seasons. Frasier and Niles are lovely people. Their snobbery is played for laughs but it's still a basically lovely thing. Don't forget the scene that played under the credits. It's hours later and the restaurant is obviously about to close but Frasier and Niles are still sitting at the table, obviously shamed by their father's words but unable to suck it up and eat their meals. Martin's denunciation wouldn't work nearly as well if it wasn't for that scene. In their hearts, they know he's right.
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Feb 10, 2018 02:03
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I liked the episode where Frasier enters a sailboat race and takes last because he got food poisoning so he had to keep stopping on shore to poo poo in the woods and wipe with leaves.
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Feb 10, 2018 02:22
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Not a Children posted:I stopped being able to be impressed by the show after niles + daphne got together. It was just so friggin contrived. I’m on season 10 but it’s seemed like such a slog to keep going. Is it worth finishing? I loved the show all the way through, but TBH you can probably skip half the episodes after Niles and Daphne get together. Also, definitely the ones with Gertrude Moon. Those were painful to watch.
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Feb 10, 2018 02:26
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There’s a large decline when Daphne’s family, Julia and Kirby become regular characters. Which are all in later seasons.
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Feb 10, 2018 02:28
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Don't forget the scene that played under the credits. It's hours later and the restaurant is obviously about to close but Frasier and Niles are still sitting at the table, obviously shamed by their father's words but unable to suck it up and eat their meals. They're just such loving babies. I've visited people and been served food or drink I didn't like and ate it and complimented it because I was a guest. The food at that place can't be so bad if it's such an institution.
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Feb 10, 2018 02:44
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Kinda funny given iirc, that was a folksy steak place, which would now be trendy as all hell. Frasier and Niles were always somehow more old-fashioned than Martin in being snobby, before wealthy people started desperately trying to be relevant rather than exclusive.
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Feb 10, 2018 02:59
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Inescapable Duck posted:Kinda funny given iirc, that was a folksy steak place, which would now be trendy as all hell. Frasier and Niles were always somehow more old-fashioned than Martin in being snobby, before wealthy people started desperately trying to be relevant rather than exclusive. I already made that observation earlier in this thread dammit! But yea, it's not even that the restaurant is trying to be folksy that would make it insanely trendy in today's world, it's that it's in a re-purposed sawmill. That would be an insanely awesome place to put a steakhouse today.
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Feb 10, 2018 03:08
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Not a big fan of tie-cutting, though. 
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Feb 10, 2018 03:44
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Accretionist posted:Not a big fan of tie-cutting, though. Yeah, I'd be pissed off if the waitstaff just cut off my tie without any warning. Also I'm convinced Frasier should've ended with Daphne and Niles hooking up. There's really nowhere to go after that.
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Feb 10, 2018 05:11
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Tumble posted:I already made that observation earlier in this thread dammit! That's probably what I was recalling, sorry. Similar point that it's almost a funny little period piece given how, ironically, Frasier and Niles could actually be ahead of the curve if they were a little more open-minded. I feel they coulda done more with Niles and Daphne if they'd explored Daphne's personality and attitudes a bit more beyond 'has a hosed up childhood and family' and 'is middle class British'. Even her brother Simon has more interesting personality traits there than she does; interesting that he uses big fancy words, perhaps to appear smarter or to mock Frasier, but he always uses them correctly. (might go with how Roz and other Americans think he sounds classy)
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Feb 10, 2018 05:25
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Thought what really killed it was the whole “getting fat” story to cover her real pregnancy
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Feb 10, 2018 06:30
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:They're just such loving babies. I've visited people and been served food or drink I didn't like and ate it and complimented it because I was a guest. The food at that place can't be so bad if it's such an institution. They aren't guests though, they're paying customers. Take some young hip friends to Olive Garden, or hell jist even mention the olive garden, and watch this behavior happen irl. Though it's also imo a sendup of the standard sitcom wisecracks and insults, which are almost a genre convention but would be extremely tedious if they were real people
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Feb 10, 2018 06:52
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Olive Garden has the salad and bread sticks. Being dragged to Chile's... I really tried to like it. Edit: kept my mouth shut, though.
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Feb 10, 2018 08:30
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Dago Denny's is awesome. Never ending pasta isn't as good as never ending shrimp at Red Lobster, but smashing breadsticks into vodka sauce until you can barely walk out for $20 is a deal.
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Feb 10, 2018 12:27
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:They aren't guests though, they're paying customers. It's a place where Martin has been going for years and is a regular. He's trying to bring them into his world. They're guests.
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Feb 10, 2018 17:45
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:They aren't guests though, they're paying customers. You must be one of those  THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT typesa sexual elk posted:Thought what really killed it was the whole “getting fat” story to cover her real pregnancy Yea, looking back on this, it comes across as really terrible how much they mock her for a slight weight gain.
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Feb 10, 2018 17:48
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:They aren't guests though, they're paying customers. Yea but it's a loving steakhouse. You get wedge salads and baked potatoes and steaks. It's delicious.
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Feb 10, 2018 18:01
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They'd eat a worm if they gave it a fancy French name.
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Feb 10, 2018 18:58
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Tumble posted:Yea but it's a loving steakhouse. You get wedge salads and baked potatoes and steaks. It's delicious. Same except red sauce italian place, spaghetti, breadsticks, and salad
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Feb 10, 2018 19:05
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a sexual elk posted:Thought what really killed it was the whole “getting fat” story to cover her real pregnancy Nah that was the best part
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Feb 10, 2018 19:06
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They even made a joke about how much weight she'd lost after she had the baby.
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Feb 11, 2018 05:43
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I barely watch this show and drat
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Feb 11, 2018 05:45
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kelsey grammer's actual dad just sort of shifting uncomfortably in his chair
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Feb 11, 2018 11:49
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:kelsey grammer's actual dad just sort of shifting uncomfortably in his chair His dad was murdered. So was his sister, in a separate incident. His life has been hosed up.
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Feb 11, 2018 12:22
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coffin then
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Feb 11, 2018 13:35
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Was it his sister or dad who was lost at sea while diving, implied to have been eaten by a shark
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Feb 11, 2018 13:45
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Calaveron posted:Was it his sister or dad who was lost at sea while diving, implied to have been eaten by a shark I expect to hear that he had a cousin who was killed by a falling piano.
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Calaveron posted:Was it his sister or dad who was lost at sea while diving, implied to have been eaten by a shark That was both his half brothers who died in a scuba accident. I honestly don’t blame him for becoming an alcoholic pill popper.
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Feb 11, 2018 15:58
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His father was murdered and his little sister was raped and murdered. wtf
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Feb 11, 2018 16:35
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Le Cigare Volant!
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Feb 11, 2018 17:14
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And apparently he was good friends with the producer that died in 9/11.
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Feb 11, 2018 17:16
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get OOUUTT!!!!
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Feb 11, 2018 17:18
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John Mahoney was only in his 50's during most of the show's run. 
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Feb 11, 2018 17:21
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I think not actually casting super old dudes to play super old dudes for ongoing series tends to be a good idea, because they y'know, die.
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Feb 11, 2018 17:36
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Solice Kirsk posted:Le Cigare Volant!
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A decrease in friction between Frasier and Martin over the first four or five seasons makes sense. When they move in they're still just this side of estranged, Frasier just left Boston to get away from his ex-wife that cheated on him, and Marin's wife died like two years ago. They begin with a lot of tension and frustration, but as their relationship matures and they become better able to communicate with each other, there's less serious fighting. I always thought it was a great example of how a relationship naturally evolves. Niles and Daphne needed to get together but it probably should have been in the series finale, not three seasons beforehand. Solice Kirsk posted:Dago Denny's is awesome.
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