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RE: touch screen chat Here's a game with some pretty graphics and neat stuff to look at. Now use your fat fingers to obscure the screen.
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Detective No. 27 posted:RE: touch screen chat If only we all had fingers of presidential caliber.
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Feb 10, 2018 05:20
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Platystemon posted:If only we all had fingers of presidential caliber. 
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Feb 10, 2018 05:27
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Just off the top of my head, my phone could have Right side: Power on/off switch Bluetooth on/off switch WiFi on/off switch Volume wheel Bottom: Landscape/portrait switch Regular power usage/low power switch Left side: Flashight on/off switch Scroll wheel "End call" hangup button All these would barely stick out of the phone. You would hardly notice them. And in a week you would be able to memorize the location of all of them.
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Feb 10, 2018 05:56
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Platystemon posted:If only we all had fingers of presidential caliber. We would drop our phones/tablets continually because we can't hold them and we suck at juggling?
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Feb 10, 2018 06:34
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JnnyThndrs posted:Holy poo poo. The friend hid prawn (shrimp) heads in my curtain rods as a prank. Took a while to find the source of the smell. Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Just off the top of my head, my phone could have OMG get this built. The landscape/portrait switch alone is worth it. Humphreys has a new favorite as of 13:50 on Feb 10, 2018 |
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Feb 10, 2018 13:45
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Just off the top of my head, my phone could have Make some of them user assignable and I will love it forever.
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Feb 10, 2018 14:29
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People are addicted enough to their phones without also building in a fidget cube (I'm all about physical controls, make this happen (
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Feb 10, 2018 17:19
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I like small phones. I'm using a Sony xz1 compact. One useful physical button I do like is the camera button. The only other physical button I'd want is flashlight. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO has a new favorite as of 18:19 on Feb 10, 2018 |
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Feb 10, 2018 17:43
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Just off the top of my head, my phone could have Just for reference, the other reason buttons are going away is you probably just increased the size of the phone 10-20%.
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Feb 10, 2018 17:59
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It seems that phone would be useful if you wanted to play android like StarCraft. E- Hangup button on the side seems like a problem, dropped calls. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO has a new favorite as of 18:29 on Feb 10, 2018 |
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Feb 10, 2018 18:16
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:It seems that phone would be useful if you wanted to play android like StarCraft. lmao who uses their phone to call people? (I've seen people hang up accidentally with their cheek, so there's that.)
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Feb 10, 2018 18:32
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I had a Sony Ericsson phone with a joystick in the early 2000's. A little bit earlier they also had phones with a sideways jog dial, which was the superior choice. I'd appreciate a jog dial instead of a volume rocker now, even if we've mostly moved on from interfaces that are nothing but sequential lists (with icons if we're fancy).
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Feb 10, 2018 18:52
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I also had a small Sony phone in 1999/2000 that had a jog dial. I don't remember much else about the phone but that was a nice feature to have. Not sure how useful it would be with today's UX's, though.
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Feb 10, 2018 18:58
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Those little Sony Ericsson phones were good. I like this Sony android, but man, you need to disable a few apps as they're borderline annoyware.
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Feb 10, 2018 19:58
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And the jog dial did three things. Make something go up, make something go down, and make something do something. I recently got an iPhone and I’m amazed at how many different functions the “home” button does. It doesn’t even do the same thing with the same presses in different modes. And you can’t use it as a mini trackpad (e.g for selecting text)
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Feb 10, 2018 20:02
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I want to point out that all smartphones have buttons for volume and a home key at minimum. This is because if your phone starts screaming at the wrong time you can mute it instantly and other stuff. You wouldn't argue against having those. So if we're talking about phones why can't we have a couple of extra buttons to take care of the most important things like picking up or hanging up, being able to open recent calls and calling back with a button press etc. Tablets don't need that, but phones need to have the basic phone functions available like this. As it is now, the phone is just another app on the device which I think is fundamentally dumb especially since you have tablets, notebooks, smart watches and whatever'll come out of the smart glass tech. Just... give me three extra buttons is all I ask.
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Feb 10, 2018 21:06
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Vic posted:and a home key at minimum
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Feb 10, 2018 21:57
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Just think how easy it would be to restart your phone if you had a tiny little power switch on the side. Or scroll down a web page or a book with a little wheel on the side.
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Feb 10, 2018 22:03
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Vic posted:Just... give me three extra buttons is all I ask. I hope you get them. I def don't want them. But wth. Phones are boring right now. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO has a new favorite as of 23:10 on Feb 10, 2018 |
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Feb 10, 2018 22:06
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Button/Touchscreen 2020
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Feb 10, 2018 22:30
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Vic posted:Button/Touchscreen 2020 Clitmouse would have won!
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Feb 10, 2018 23:12
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Mein Kampf Enthusiast posted:Android phones don't have mute switches because you literally just press and hold the volume down switch for 2 seconds instead But they have no less than three semi-physical (capacitative) buttons, of which two (app switch and back) could be implemented in software, by performing a certain swipe or clicking an in-app button. Are you a Google shill or something, because that sounds like an argument they would bring to the table. Do you also think the volume buttons should be omitted? That can be done in software also. Most importantly, I need to unlock my phone first before I can hold down the volume buttons in order to mute it. Then to unmute it, I need to click the volume up button a few times, while watching the display, in order to not crank it up to eleven. You seriously cannot see the benefit of a simple mute switch? Explain precisely why physical buttons need to go - it's not as if there isn't any room on the phone. There are dozens of centimeters of room for physical buttons all around the edge of a modern phone. Anyway, I guess this is futile to debate because Apple has made people used to not having buttons, and their fans... well, I'll stop now.
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Feb 10, 2018 23:53
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My phone (Moto X Play) has the back/home/switch buttons purely in software, and hides them for fullscreen apps. Also, you can still control volume on an Android phone while it's locked.
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Feb 11, 2018 00:00
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KozmoNaut posted:Also, you can still control volume on an Android phone while it's locked. Ya, I do this all the time. Are you ok pilsner? Maybe I missed a post but uh, yea. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO has a new favorite as of 00:34 on Feb 11, 2018 |
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Feb 11, 2018 00:25
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Pilsner posted:Explain precisely why physical buttons need to go - it's not as if there isn't any room on the phone. There are dozens of centimeters of room for physical buttons all around the edge of a modern phone.
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Feb 11, 2018 00:31
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KozmoNaut posted:My phone (Moto X Play) has the back/home/switch buttons purely in software, and hides them for fullscreen apps. It's just one tiny thing I miss from back when I had an iPhone - when I met at the office, I'd put it on my desk and mute it with the flick of a switch, in order to not annoy my co-workers. Call me lazy, but having to unlock it and tap buttons is just too much effort. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Are you ok pilsner? Maybe I missed a post but uh, yea.  It's just Saturday night and I'm an angry old man when it comes to hardware that gets worse with time.
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Feb 11, 2018 00:45
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One thing I do enjoy about my V30 is that the fingerprint sensor on the back is the power button. I mean it's a real round button you can push.
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Feb 11, 2018 00:49
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Pilsner posted:But they have no less than three semi-physical (capacitative) buttons, of which two (app switch and back) could be implemented in software, by performing a certain swipe or clicking an in-app button. Are you a Google shill or something, because that sounds like an argument they would bring to the table. Do you also think the volume buttons should be omitted? That can be done in software also. drat dude you've got some seriously strong opinions on this, maybe go outside or something
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Feb 11, 2018 01:13
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Room on the edge of the phone doesn't equal room inside the case, though. Physical buttons need connections that software buttons don't. Anyway I'm pretty sure Blackberry (but not really) is still making a phone with a physical keyboard. Maybe they have call buttons? Maybe they solve the "bumpy road" conundrum that affects touchscreens but somehow not keyboards?
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Feb 11, 2018 01:25
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Humerus posted:Room on the edge of the phone doesn't equal room inside the case, though. Physical buttons need connections that software buttons don't. Look smartphones are a screen and a battery. There ain't no engineering problem there. We figured out tiny wires already. There are buttons on the phone and no the phone won't be bigger when you want more. I feel like I'm unable to explain to you how this works but yes, buttons are easier to push than no button. You can try this at home in fact. Take a sheet of paper and draw a dot on it. Now have another person move your hand and the paper slightly each in random directions. Now try to press on that dot. Now do the same again with a real goddamn phone with buttons you idiot.
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Feb 11, 2018 02:03
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Vic posted:Look smartphones are a screen and a battery. There ain't no engineering problem there. We figured out tiny wires already. There are buttons on the phone and no the phone won't be bigger when you want more. I got stumped at the "another person" part
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Feb 11, 2018 02:19
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More buttons are more things that can break and more places for water to get into the phone.
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Feb 11, 2018 02:40
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Vic posted:Look smartphones are a screen and a battery. There ain't no engineering problem there. We figured out tiny wires already. There are buttons on the phone and no the phone won't be bigger when you want more. Every hole you stick in the side of a case weakens the structural integrity of the case. It’s not as simple as adding a bunch of tiny wires. Back before the iPhone there were smartphones like you’re describing and they were terrible. Tablets and e-readers before the iPad were chock full of buttons and it was a pain in the rear end. But even if it wasn’t, what was possible when your phones were half an inch thick isn’t possible when they’re half that size. If it is possible, it’s not worth the trade offs. Let it go, Vic. It’s Stevejobs town.
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Feb 11, 2018 02:55
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Pilsner posted:But they have no less than three semi-physical (capacitative) buttons, of which two (app switch and back) could be implemented in software, by performing a certain swipe or clicking an in-app button. Are you a Google shill or something, because that sounds like an argument they would bring to the table. Do you also think the volume buttons should be omitted? That can be done in software also. I dunno, whenever I am jamming on my tablet, I use some Bluetooth earbuds, and the volume works fine while it is locked, and I can pause rather than mute.
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Feb 11, 2018 03:03
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Pilsner posted:I can adjust volume unlocked while playing MP3's, but ringtone volume doesn't budge while my (Xiaomi A1) phone is locked, I just tried. I like buttons too but also my n5x turns down the ringer when locked
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Feb 11, 2018 03:05
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If the entire phone is moving than hardware vs software buttons aren't going to really change anything. I've been on my phone and on a laptop as a passenger and neither seemed superior or inferior. Except the laptop was much bigger and generally harder to position. Which a tablet of similar size would have not had those drawbacks. But like I said there's a company stamping Blackberry's name onto phones with keyboards, or they still make dumbphones? Like buttons assigned to specific tasks just don't make sense on a device that can do so many different things. Why do I need a hangup button when I'm watching YouTube? There's a reason Google got rid of hardware (capacitive) buttons like 7 years ago. Back then there were actually four buttons, and the one they eliminated was Menu because it was very situational and not needed most of the time (also most app developers implemented it very poorly). Anyway we're not changing minds here so... Future obsolete technology: touchscreens probably.
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Feb 11, 2018 04:10
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Krispy Wafer posted:Every hole you stick in the side of a case weakens the structural integrity of the case. It’s not as simple as adding a bunch of tiny wires. There was a mass recall of phones that bent because people had it in their pockets. It was funny because bunch of nitwits gave other nitwits so much money they made a phone super thin because it looks good. Then there was a mass recall of phones that literally exploded due to lovely batteries. Same thing. Those phones are mass produced poo poo products meant to be replaced therefore they cut corners (in the samsung case literally). It's a poo poo exploitative industry with lovely practices. That said, it's so much cheaper to make a device with no buttons for the reasons you mentioned. It's not ambiguous - we can definitely make a normal phone that won't bend, be regular smartphone size, won't explode, have buttons. It would cost more to make such a phone, sure. But there's a large profit margin. Now whether you're saying it ain't possible or that it's prohibitively expensive to make such a phone, I don't care. It's some weird stockholm syndrome you and a bunch of others have with lovely and cheaply made electronics. What a weird loving hill to die on screaming "This is the height of creation!"
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Humerus posted:Like buttons assigned to specific tasks just don't make sense on a device that can do so many different things. Why do I need a hangup button when I'm watching YouTube? Best analogy I can think of is the swiss army knife paradigm. The knife is the most important and most used part of the tool. Y'all dick waggling with the number of accessories but ur knife is poo poo and you secretly know it.
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