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Sombra changes are great. Health pack ult charge was probably the worst designed mechanic in the game. Only mechanic left to work out is healing giving ult charge but it's a much more difficult issue to solve.
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how can you justify taking ult charge from healing? mercy would never be able to ult or become the worst DPS and Healer simultaneously
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Feb 9, 2018 18:17
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Maybe I should have mentioned in my post that it was a difficult problem to solve.
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Feb 9, 2018 18:33
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Why is it even a problem? Support gets ult too fast? Make them need more ult charge points per ult. Get them too slow? Make them need less points. The only "difficult" part is balancing that, unless you think that healing shouldn't give ult charge at all, in which case i'd assume you were insane.
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Feb 9, 2018 18:35
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I do think that because intentionally taking damage to charge your healer's ult is a dumb play pattern. It's the same situation as Sombra heal packs just less clowny looking. No Wave fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Feb 9, 2018 |
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Feb 9, 2018 18:38
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i think what he's driving at is that doing damage to the enemy team shouldn't indirectly benefit the enemy team e:f;b
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It also directly benefits your team though. Definitely a balancing act. If it became too much of a problem i'd just reduce the rate support players get ults at, but I don't really have a problem with it as a mechanic, aside from maybe the lack of in game indication that it might be a bad idea.
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Feb 9, 2018 18:43
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I don't think it's as big a deal now that Valk has been nerfed. Giving Ana or Moira ult isn't that big a deal. Giving Zen/Lucio ult charge can be I suppose but if you're also getting your own Genji Blade, Tire, etc, that seems like a fair trade off most of the time.
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Feb 9, 2018 18:44
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Yeah, as play continues to grow so do the tactics around it. The recent slew of people using blade to bait out trans and then graving the enemy team when they push forward using trans is one of those things.
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You've got a point, it was more of an issue when mercy's ult was significantly better than every other ult in the game. You're obviously also giving them ult charge so dogstile's probably right that you can effectively balance it via charge rate (ie as long as enemies get more out of shooting than you get out of healing its ok). Maybe not a real problem i take it back.
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Feb 9, 2018 18:49
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You could also increase the rate of ult gain for sustained healing to reduce the ult gain for healing chip damage.
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No Wave posted:You've got a point, it was more of an issue when mercy's ult was significantly better than every other ult in the game. You're obviously also giving them ult charge so dogstile's probably right that you can effectively balance it via charge rate (ie as long as enemies get more out of shooting than you get out of healing its ok). Maybe not a real problem i take it back. Eh, don't take it back if you still think its a thing. Sometimes i'm a bit of a dick with my opinions and have been ever since i started my new job, still in my probation period so i'm a little anxious these days. Sorry if i was!
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Feb 9, 2018 18:55
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I'm a dick with my opinions for no reason except I think I'm better than everyone and I'm not sorry at all!!
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Feb 9, 2018 18:58
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Rand Brittain posted:You could also increase the rate of ult gain for sustained healing to reduce the ult gain for healing chip damage.
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I'd legitimately forgotten that resurrections were why that was such a thing in the first place.
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Feb 9, 2018 19:04
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if the sombra changes go through i will start learning her since she'll suddenly not be an EMP farmer and be more of an active participant
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Feb 9, 2018 20:35
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Snazzy Frocks posted:if the sombra changes go through i will start learning her since she'll suddenly not be an EMP farmer and be more of an active participant Looks like the Sombra changes got reverted to normal for now. Wish they just kept them in the game and not worry about putting them on PTR where they never use it for any actual feedback.
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Feb 9, 2018 21:10
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I'd like to propose these improvements to CtF:
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dude, yes! that would make CtF so much better
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:I'd like to propose these improvements to CtF: ... I just got this.
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No Wave posted:You've got a point, it was more of an issue when mercy's ult was significantly better than every other ult in the game. You're obviously also giving them ult charge so dogstile's probably right that you can effectively balance it via charge rate (ie as long as enemies get more out of shooting than you get out of healing its ok). Maybe not a real problem i take it back. Probably the main issue is that DPS ults usually aren't as good as support ults on average.
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Feb 9, 2018 22:01
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Montalvo posted:... I just got this.
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Feb 9, 2018 22:09
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Yeah it would be better with a single flag, either at the center or alternating sides after each round or something, with a time limit on each round.
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Feb 9, 2018 22:42
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what if the flag were a bomb, and when you picked it up you could launch the ball at your friends, and you had to carry the ball to a gate where you could jump through it for a bunch of points, or just shoot the ball in for fewer points. you could call this mode "explosive sprint". or "missile jog". or "grenade dash".
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Feb 9, 2018 23:07
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Cowcaster posted:what if the flag were a bomb, and when you picked it up you could launch the ball at your friends, and you had to carry the ball to a gate where you could jump through it for a bunch of points, or just shoot the ball in for fewer points. you could call this mode "explosive sprint". or "missile jog". or "grenade dash". Lucio would dominate if they ported this over from UT
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Feb 9, 2018 23:13
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I got my diamond ranking in CTF and so I'm done with this dumb gamemode. I'll take my comp points and go play the good mode.
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Feb 9, 2018 23:14
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I forgot that mode existed and now I miss it. UT was pretty good.
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Feb 9, 2018 23:15
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I don't think I ever played bombing run, but I want Overwatch to port over Onslaught mode. Fighting on those two giant vehicles in the desert owned.
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Woo. Logged in, got a box, got McCree's Lunar skin. Lost a game of CTF, got a box, got Genji's. Let's see how much more this can go!
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I'm playing Mei in FFA and every time I use my ice block it floats into the sky. edit: seems like lots of people are having this issue. Wildtortilla fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Feb 10, 2018 |
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Feb 10, 2018 02:25
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Dick Burglar posted:I don't think I ever played bombing run, but I want Overwatch to port over Onslaught mode. Fighting on those two giant vehicles in the desert owned. that was assault, onslaught was their attempt to chomp some of battlefield’s flavor with big control point maps and vehicles. it was poorly suited to ut’s strengths
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Feb 10, 2018 02:46
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Whoops, so it was. Well ok, assault owned then.
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The custom Hellbender race map made of thin platforms was hilarious for the trolling you could do with your rear mounted laser canon.
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Cowcaster posted:that was assault, onslaught was their attempt to chomp some of battlefield’s flavor with big control point maps and vehicles. it was poorly suited to ut’s strengths it was fine if it was a huge populated server or a server with a radar mod
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Man, I get all those points about not being an rear end to your team because of their comp, especially when it doesn't matter, but I feel like OW is very much not fun when people are pretending it's TF2 Turbine 247. The game just doesn't work that way, if the team isn't at least trying a little it devolves into you running into the meat grinder of 2cp while you get 3v1d.
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Am I playing Orisa wrong if I'm basically getting no kills? Like, yeah I have the shield up and usually survive, but she does so little damage I can't do anything but stall unless my team's on point.
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Feb 10, 2018 19:26
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There should be a dedicated mode for screwing around in OW Implement trade servers
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Thoughtless posted:Am I playing Orisa wrong if I'm basically getting no kills? Like, yeah I have the shield up and usually survive, but she does so little damage I can't do anything but stall unless my team's on point. That is weird because I often have gold or silver kills with her. Her clip size and headshots combined with the fact that she is always firing gets a lot of kills and does a lot of damage. It is shocking how fast you can burn down a roadhog, especially with ult up. To add something helpful: always be focusing with teammates. Never stop adding damage to your hitscanners.
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Thoughtless posted:Am I playing Orisa wrong if I'm basically getting no kills? Like, yeah I have the shield up and usually survive, but she does so little damage I can't do anything but stall unless my team's on point. Yes. You should be securing a lot of elims with her imo since you can poo poo out constant pressure/suppression and cover fire with the gun's large mag size. Also note her gun is not hitscan. You need to lead targets if they're not right up in your face. [edit] Also aim for headshots. teagone fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Feb 10, 2018 |
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if you mean you're not getting final blows then that's fine but if you're not getting eliminations at all then yea you should rethink how you're playing
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