maswastaken posted:

61 is the damage boost; DMR kit G3's overall damage is unchanged.

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

What is the Nailgun Murdertube?

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

Ah so the damage increase from the DMR kit, got it.


Its not like it matters anyway with the pickup complete and total rear end. I think sniper rifles have a better pickup. I know the Contractor sure does.

UnknownMercenary posted:

With a few tweaks the Minigun Dozer would be pretty good. Right now it's just super obnoxious and begging to be killed via Swan Song and RPG fuckery.

Discendo Vox posted:

My big issue is it's not doing anything that makes it different from an LMG dozer-it's just got bonkers RoF so anyone standing too close to it takes infinity damage.

maswastaken posted:

I've been playing with sniper rifles and shotguns (a rare victory for Overkill Ace, since sniper rifles appreciate both the damage and the weapon swap speed) and I think I'm ready to fire off cylinders of annihilation the size of this:



Please come sooner, beta.

SolidSnakesBandana posted:

Why does your game have all those dumb lines everywhere

maswastaken posted:

That's annoying; the only realistic way for my sociopath shotgun/sniper build to reliably take a dozer out without playing hide and seek or getting someone else to smash the visor for me (sniper rifle is slow, shotguns are damage location roulette) is to stab them to death.

UnknownMercenary posted:

I'm not entirely opposed to having dozers be something that requires cooperation to take down.

UnknownMercenary posted:

I'm not entirely opposed to having dozers be something that requires cooperation to take down.

maswastaken posted:

I hope players adapt to this alien concept of cooperation because if there's one thing you can count on, it's players disappearing to go kill things on their own.

maswastaken posted:

I hope players adapt to this alien concept of cooperation because if there's one thing you can count on, it's players disappearing to go kill hostages on their own.

UnknownMercenary posted:

With the most recent patch minigun dozers are really easy to kill once the faceplates are broken.

Discendo Vox posted:

They increased the spawn cap again.

72 for four players on most difficulties.

108 on One Down.

He didn't mention it in the patch notes.

FAUXTON posted:

drat I was hoping it was some new armor class where you got to have a dozer plate and that visual was the glass faceshield underneath being shattered (but not yet fully destroyed).

I'd be okay with copdozer class armor.

Discendo Vox posted:

Another example of unreported change

"One Down Changes posted:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/31/1700542332320166484/

Specials will no longer spawn alone and will have a few swats accompanying them.

Manuel Calavera posted:

quote:

-Graze may not be the final name of the skill
-Jules said Graze may be the first skill with a very high skill cap due to how it works
-(don't know if they will or just considering) they'd rather buff Trigger Happy than buff pistols, said the current version is "limiting"
-they'll continue tweaking less used perk decks, said that Yakuza was meant for a niche playstyle, said "maybe that's not the best example of one they'll buff"
-was asked if they would add pistol skills out of their tree to add to more used skills, seems they're fine with weapon types having their own trees
-they may add picking up grenades from Fully Loaded into the base game for non dlc owners,said they'd partially implemented it with the ai skill that gives you grenades, but in the future as they'd have to redo the ammo skill tree and ai skills
-they're considering changing the xp/cash reduction for certain mutators, they prioritize work based on popularity and don't know how popular mutators with more (Jules said without, I assume a misspeak) rewards would be, said if enough people make noise they'll make it higher priority
-they're prioritizing balance and performance as they affect everybody
-they think trip mines aren't weak, but the major factor is the limited supply, they may add a way to replenish them
-they have plans for a new Infamy, but is low priority due to the small amount of infamous players, more people benefit from better ai
-they think silencers will still be useful in loud, Jules sometimes uses silencers because of the sound [he doesn't know they keep enemies from targetting or noticing you.]
-they don't want barrel extensions to dictate how good a weapon is, probably won't buff them, they don't know how to make more extensions viable and don't want to do "a weird fix that won't fix anything", they know a meta would form no matter what and don't want to just change which extensions are meta, there's not enough things they can change on the extensions to make them more varied
-they know stealth has flaws and doesn't scale with difficulty, they don't have concrete plans yet, Jules said they discussed adding a timer to stealth. But if they do overhaul stealth they'll let us know beforehand [this is a loving terrible idea]
-they don't like seven day heists due to how long you would need to play
-they haven't abandoned the game for PD3, Jules said they have less manpower than before, but he said they think as a group better and the game is more stable due to less frequent content (I assume dlc)
-they don't want VR players to be a burden when playing with PC players, they're making sure they're on par in terms of power and usefulness
-Jules doesn't pick the new name for One Down, but he can influence it and they're looking at community names, another dev joked about naming it Easy to make it full circle
-they want to see what people think of minigun dozers with the fixed hs multiplier before making further changes, said they take roughly 50% more dmg to the head, he said people have to change tactics with the minigun
dozer and not just run up and unload a magazine in their face [no, people still just run up and facedump them, it just takes longer]
-they boosted minigun dozer health to counter the low speed to make them more threatening, said they were too easy to kill because of their speed
-they tried giving the minidozer more faceplate health instead of hp, but it was too easy to remove because of explosives, and the hp would be huge to not be weak to them [there are several ways to fix this]
-Jules doen't know anything about a skin trade-up, but they have observed the problem of too many commons you won't use
-Jules and OVK made all the new Switch content themselves, including the Hacker perk deck
-Jules thinks the solution to turrets destroying ai teammates is add hp scaling with the amount of human players [Jules doesn't get it.]
-they like better turret placement/more importance in the heist like in Beneath the Mountain and Scarface Mansion, earlier placements of swat turrets were more out of the way [Jules really, really doesn't get it]
-Jules has regrets in regards to balance, but not a biggest one
-to Jules Inspire has been in the game so long nerfing it would hurt everyone, Jules thinks it makes the game more fun
-Goat Simulator doesn't fit in the game as well as they thought it would, Jules thinks the premise is funny and fits payday, he said the problem isn't the absurdity but the size and lack of cover
-they don't think they should buff Medicdozer damage, Jules thinks normal Medics should have the same hp as Tasers to make them a priority [Jules doesn't get it x3, tasers on the top difficulties are still HP sinks]
-they regret the armor bag, said it was originally completly different, but they couldn't finish it due to resources
-Jules's dream enemy would be a more mobile captain with randomized abilities from a pool of five captains, mentioned a captain Summers with a tear gas grenade launcher who buffs enemy damage as long as she's alive, would be too much work [this is just unbelievably stupid]
-said low ammo pickup on medium assault rifles (amr etc) is okay if you use semi auto and priorities accurate shots, said they also see use with body expertise and would be too powerful then with more pickup
-no plans for ZEAL models of the minigun and medic dozers
-can't talk about workshop custom heists, says it's harder than it seems