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Pokey Araya
Jan 1, 2007
This is the most terrifying version of that in Russia. All my friends who have played Russia of course say its an absolutely insane nightmare that anything works at all. For perspective most of the power amps running the speakers in this size venue are running about a 1000 watts rms each, they can easily peak at 3000 or more, and they probably have 6 or more chained together, minimum. Microphones have metal capsules, metal handles, and are grounded through the the wire that connects to the mixer. Ideally the power amp voltage should be so removed through the signal chain that this shouldn't happen. But hey, Russia.

Also note how as he gets shocked, his body involuntarily tenses up, AND PUTS THE MICROPHONE THAT JUST SHOCKED HIM STRAIGHT ONTO HIS HEART. This is my nightmare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgr77VMe5Lc&t=126s

He lived.

Pokey Araya fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Feb 10, 2018

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Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Pokey Araya posted:

This is the most terrifying version of that in Russia. All my friends who have played Russia of course say its an absolutely insane nightmare that anything works at all. For perspective most of the power amps running the speakers in this size venue are running about a 1000 watts rms each, they can easily peak at 3000 or more, and they probably have 6 or more chained together, minimum. Microphones have metal capsules, metal handles, and are grounded through the the wire that connects to the mixer. Ideally the power amp voltage should be so removed through the signal chain that this shouldn't happen. But hey, Russia.

Also note how as he gets shocked, his body involuntarily tenses up, AND PUTS THE MICROPHONE THAT JUST SHOCKED HIM STRAIGHT ONTO HIS HEART. This is my nightmare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgr77VMe5Lc&t=126s

He lived.

Pro level YouTube comment:

"In Soviet Russia, mic drops you."

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
lmao I never expected that sort of response to my stupid joke but :nfpa:




:nfpa: to all goons who enrich our stupid dead gay community

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Wasabi the J posted:

Pro level YouTube comment:

"In Soviet Russia, mic drops you."

Only one of these jokes I’ve seen in years that actually worked

Fallows
Jan 20, 2005

If he waits long enough he can use his accrued interest from his savings to bring his negative checking balance back into the black.

Pokey Araya posted:

This is the most terrifying version of that in Russia. All my friends who have played Russia of course say its an absolutely insane nightmare that anything works at all. For perspective most of the power amps running the speakers in this size venue are running about a 1000 watts rms each, they can easily peak at 3000 or more, and they probably have 6 or more chained together, minimum. Microphones have metal capsules, metal handles, and are grounded through the the wire that connects to the mixer. Ideally the power amp voltage should be so removed through the signal chain that this shouldn't happen. But hey, Russia.

Also note how as he gets shocked, his body involuntarily tenses up, AND PUTS THE MICROPHONE THAT JUST SHOCKED HIM STRAIGHT ONTO HIS HEART. This is my nightmare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgr77VMe5Lc&t=126s

He lived.

Shock is at 2:08 lol

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005

Pokey Araya posted:

This is the most terrifying version of that in Russia. All my friends who have played Russia of course say its an absolutely insane nightmare that anything works at all. For perspective most of the power amps running the speakers in this size venue are running about a 1000 watts rms each, they can easily peak at 3000 or more, and they probably have 6 or more chained together, minimum. Microphones have metal capsules, metal handles, and are grounded through the the wire that connects to the mixer. Ideally the power amp voltage should be so removed through the signal chain that this shouldn't happen. But hey, Russia.

Also note how as he gets shocked, his body involuntarily tenses up, AND PUTS THE MICROPHONE THAT JUST SHOCKED HIM STRAIGHT ONTO HIS HEART. This is my nightmare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgr77VMe5Lc&t=126s

He lived.

The power amps running the speakers have no direct electrical connection to the microphone. Totally unrelated. These accidents are caused by on-stage instrument amplifers with lifted grounds killing guitarists or in the case of microphones usually a lovely stage split or mixer.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
:nms:https://i.imgur.com/28L3TYC.jpg:nms:

Dude with an angle grinder blade in the side of his face.

longview
Dec 25, 2006

heh.
It seems like it would take a lot to end up with a massive ground-fault like that with pro audio gear though... (not that I'm doubting that it happens)

Normally everything in audio is grounded together through the mic-cable shields, unless you have isolated DI boxes in between (but then they're isolated and they won't become energized on their own).

And pretty much all pro audio gear I've seen is grounded at the plug. The mixer will also likely be grounded at the same potential as the scary russian PAs.

Point is that all it would take in an audio signal chain to avoid a high voltage ground is for a single piece of equipment to be properly grounded and wired and it should drag everything down to ground level. (This is assuming normal equipment leakage currents driving a floating ground, not a direct phase-shield fault, but then the cable would probably melt.)

Now if the entire sound system setup was fed off a non grounded outlet, then the equipment ground would float, normally at around 1/2 half the line voltage to ground on average (this happens since most equipment has roughly symmetrical leakage paths for phase-ground and neutral-ground).
If enough equipment were grounded together and especially if some of it were poorly made/faulty then you could end up with quite a lot of current going through whoever bridges the equipment ground and proper ground.
Another option is that the building/venues actual grounding rod is corroded away and nobody noticed/started piling on the isolation transformers to deal with symptoms instead of fixing it, next person to touch both the PE and actual ground gets a nice surprise.

My MiniDisc player had no ground, and came with very specific and mandatory checks in the service manual to ensure the ground leakage current was below some very low number of µAs.
In that case since it had both balanced audio and digital I/O and I was converting it to 230V I just hacked in a C14 inlet and added a grounding lug to avoid that issue.
It was likely ungrounded since one variant of it only came with unbalanced audio and floating all your grounds is the only way to avoid ground loop hum with unbalanced audio.

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
There are transformer isolated in/outs all over audio gear.

The metal XLR housing on a mic cable should never be connected to anything anyway.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/ax1DGwY_460sv.mp4

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



That needs to be a thing straight away.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Humphreys posted:

That needs to be a thing straight away.

Sure beats getting beaten up and dragged out of a plane.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Memento posted:

:nms:https://i.imgur.com/28L3TYC.jpg:nms:

Dude with an angle grinder blade in the side of his face.

at lease he remained cool throughout the whole ordeal :c00l:

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

:coal:

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

LifeSunDeath posted:

at lease he remained cool throughout the whole ordeal :c00l:

Of course he remained cool, he didn't want to lose face.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014


On my last flight the pilot gave the safety briefing as the flight attendants went through the motions. Two I remember:

"If you haven't been in a motor vehicle for the past 40 years, this is a seatbelt!"

"If we lose cabin pressure, oxygen masks will fall from the ceiling. Stop screaming and put your mask on over your face and secure with the elastic strap."

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Memento posted:

:nms:https://i.imgur.com/28L3TYC.jpg:nms:

Dude with an angle grinder blade in the side of his face.

aaaand that brings us to now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrs-lyhcXmA

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011

Memento posted:

:nms:https://i.imgur.com/28L3TYC.jpg:nms:

Dude with an angle grinder blade in the side of his face.

to steal a joke from another goon:

I'm not going to question a doctor's methods, but I think a scalpel would have worked better.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

longview posted:

grounded at the plug.
You can still run into ungrounded outlets here and there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOST_7396

http://www.plugsocketmuseum.nl/Russia1.html

Tumble
Jun 24, 2003
I'm not thinking of anything!

Memento posted:

:nms:https://i.imgur.com/28L3TYC.jpg:nms:

Dude with an angle grinder blade in the side of his face.

it'll buff out

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

never watched this movie but now i want to

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

LifeSunDeath posted:

never watched this movie but now i want to

It’s incredibly good

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


https://i.imgur.com/FmUkXnx.mp4

I'm not sure how to feel about this.

On one hand, it's great being able to skip expensive stumpgrinding equipment.
On the other hand, I keep watching and being afraid that the carjack is going to snap or bend or something. Also it seems like it would only work with smaller/thinner stumps.

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

theflyingexecutive posted:

It’s incredibly good

Seconding this.

I also like to party.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Kith posted:

https://i.imgur.com/FmUkXnx.mp4

I'm not sure how to feel about this.

On one hand, it's great being able to skip expensive stumpgrinding equipment.
On the other hand, I keep watching and being afraid that the carjack is going to snap or bend or something. Also it seems like it would only work with smaller/thinner stumps.

It looks possibly dangerous but just about everything you can do with tree work either involves a long fall, chansaw going into your leg, or a dead branch javelining you from 100 feet up so it's not to bad compared to them.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
I trust the jack more than I trust the two‐by‐fours and that pin connecting them to the jack.

Applesnots
Oct 22, 2010

MERRY YOBMAS

Kith posted:

https://i.imgur.com/FmUkXnx.mp4

I'm not sure how to feel about this.

On one hand, it's great being able to skip expensive stumpgrinding equipment.
On the other hand, I keep watching and being afraid that the carjack is going to snap or bend or something. Also it seems like it would only work with smaller/thinner stumps.

Pretty clever, I would have used a thicker bolt at the top and perhaps something stronger than pine.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Kith posted:

https://i.imgur.com/FmUkXnx.mp4

I'm not sure how to feel about this.

On one hand, it's great being able to skip expensive stumpgrinding equipment.
On the other hand, I keep watching and being afraid that the carjack is going to snap or bend or something. Also it seems like it would only work with smaller/thinner stumps.

i was waiting for the rootball to "let go" and snap the whole assembly forward

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Raskolnikov38 posted:

i was waiting for the rootball to "let go" and snap the whole assembly forward

In my experience clearing many many acres with an assortment of things from hoes up through bulldozers, tree root balls don't really 'pop' like that.

Applesnots
Oct 22, 2010

MERRY YOBMAS

Yeah, if you look on the ground behind him there is an axe, my guess is that he lifts it up and then uses the axe for the last few roots.

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

This is a jack, not a pneumatic cylinder.
The stump is lifting every time and the roots aren't made of rubber, so what are you nervous about?

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

Kith posted:

https://i.imgur.com/FmUkXnx.mp4

I'm not sure how to feel about this.

On one hand, it's great being able to skip expensive stumpgrinding equipment.
On the other hand, I keep watching and being afraid that the carjack is going to snap or bend or something. Also it seems like it would only work with smaller/thinner stumps.

The car jack he’s using is for search and rescue and is rated to pick up a fuckin truck. It’s not going to bend.

longview
Dec 25, 2006

heh.

Oh I know, they're everywhere in Norway since most sites built before ~2000 used IT power and grounding was only used in kitchens and bathrooms, so the C1/C2 plug is everywhere in older houses.
I rarely run into them in commercial/industrial these days though, even fairly old commercial buildings have largely been retrofitted or at least use all grounded outlets now.

One thing that I found a little strange is that apparently current regs require that if you fit a grounded outlet in an old house like that outside of kitchen/bathrooms you have to replace every single outlet.
It kind of makes sense since you can normally grandfather in pretty much anything but once you touch it it has to go completely.
My dad had a grounded outlet for a space heater in the living room the power company inspector said he had to either ground all the outlets or unground that one, seems like that would reduce the overall safety of the installation?

Unless the argument is something like that with IT power having grounded and non-grounded outlets in the same room creates the potential for touching a nominally grounded but ungrounded appliance with a fault at the same time as a grounded one.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
Honestly I'd be more worried about the chain snapping.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

C.M. Kruger posted:

Honestly I'd be more worried about the chain snapping.

At least it’s not a cable.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Platystemon posted:

I trust the jack more than I trust the two‐by‐fours and that pin connecting them to the jack.

Applesnots posted:

Pretty clever, I would have used a thicker bolt at the top and perhaps something stronger than pine.

The boards and bolt are just there to prevent the apparatus tipping over while in use. There would be very little force actually exerted on them.

Applesnots
Oct 22, 2010

MERRY YOBMAS

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

The boards and bolt are just there to prevent the apparatus tipping over while in use. There would be very little force actually exerted on them.

You are right, I was thinking backwards. Good call.

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

HEY NONG MAN posted:

The car jack he’s using is for search and rescue and is rated to pick up a fuckin truck. It’s not going to bend.

It's just a simple farmer jack but I don't think anyone was thinking the jack was going to bend.

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angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

Sorry in advance for the Snapchat caption, this was the only picture I took.



Only one guy in this crew of (painters or roofers, I don't recall) would scale this bad idea in action. As bad as it looks set up - them leaning the ladder over, standing on the edge of the carport roof, was extremely sketchy.

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