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HaB posted:This reads like I'm having a stroke. I understand the individual words, but otherwise it makes no sense. Fortune SL Rank 7 unlocks the ability to boost relationship points with other SLs by paying 5k, once per day. Temperance 10 allows you to perform during nights you go to Mementos or a Palace (minus the calling card I believe?), as well as being able to time save by paying her to do random stuff for you (laundry, coffee). Death 5 unlocks the SP Adhesive 3 accessory (I think?) which restores 7 SP per turn on the attached character, but Death 7 makes it 50k as opposed to 100k, which cuts costs by half and makes it easier to gear with it, as well as everything else.
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FENCH DIGGITY posted:Just do it in NG+ I feel like you didn't read my entire post
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Feb 8, 2018 21:01
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If you're looking for a one time playthrough, get the Messiah DLC and the Persona 4 DLC which comes with an EXP boost accessory. No need to wear the costumes, but Messiah Picaro at 90 will blow almost everything away through mid game (especially on easy.) It does start lacking towards the end since it can't level up much with stats starting in the 50s, but by then there are other options. It works pretty well until characters start demanding LV4/5 social stats to finish (or start) confidants.
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Feb 8, 2018 21:08
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IcePhoenix posted:I feel like you didn't read my entire post I said you can do it all in one run but you'll suck all the enjoyment out of it by having to constantly micromanage every action you take outside of the palaces. Maxing all the confidants in a single playthrough without already boosted social stats from NG+ turns into literally following a step by step guide for every individual day of the game. If you want to do that nobody is stopping you.
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Feb 8, 2018 21:29
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I'm in the sixth palace now and I don't want this game to end. Not sure how prepared I am for NG+, but so far I'm at Charm and Knowledge 5, Kindness and Guts 4, Proficiency 3, and I've maxed out 7 confidantes, and probably can do one or two more before the end. Not sure if its worth trying to get my stats up further or invest more time to try and get more maxed confidantes. I was thinking I'd pick up a couple DLC for fun in NG+ although its probably not necessary. I heard Kaguya is good, but are any of the other DLC personas worth looking at?
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Feb 9, 2018 00:58
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IcePhoenix posted:I feel like you didn't read my entire post You need to do a second run if you want to Platinum the game (since there are three trophies that can only be done on NG+), so if you're going to min-max you might as well do it on the run that matters.
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Feb 9, 2018 01:05
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Cinnamon Bear posted:I was thinking I'd pick up a couple DLC for fun in NG+ although its probably not necessary. I heard Kaguya is good, but are any of the other DLC personas worth looking at? Kaguya and Messiah are probably the two best ones to pick up imo.
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Feb 9, 2018 02:34
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Man this game is slow at parts especially in between palaces sometimes. I know it is suppose to just be daily school stuff but nothing interesting happens there.
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Feb 9, 2018 03:22
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Ulio posted:Man this game is slow at parts especially in between palaces sometimes. I know it is suppose to just be daily school stuff but nothing interesting happens there. That wouldn’t even be so bad if it wouldn’t take away all your time blocks between dungeons most of the time. You don’t get to make any choices, you’re just hitting x til the game lets you play it again.
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Feb 9, 2018 03:41
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Ulio posted:Man this game is slow at parts especially in between palaces sometimes. I know it is suppose to just be daily school stuff but nothing interesting happens there. Don't play Persona 3.
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Feb 9, 2018 03:42
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I don't know if this is commonly known, but something I noticed while doing the Confidants is that if you decide to meet up with them via the text message prompts, it won't charge you the train fare to visit the location. I don't mean if you're going to Shibuya or Shujin; I went to Shinjuku and Akihabara when responding to texts, and there was no yen charge for the trip.
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Feb 9, 2018 07:02
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It's probably in case you don't have enough yen. It's such an edge case that it was probably easier to not charge you then code an entire bit of morgana saying you don't have enough yen.
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Feb 9, 2018 07:21
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I think if you're too poor to go on the train at certain points Morgana just rips on you for being poor and gives you the money?
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Feb 9, 2018 07:28
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NachtSieger posted:Morgana just rips on you for being poor I had a bit of a scary moment last night, I'd been playing for about an hour, between the 4th Palace and the deadline for it. I'd advanced a bunch of Confidant ranks and increased social stats etc (finally got enough Guts to unlock Hanged Man). I spent time with Sojiro to get some rank points to progress his Confidant, and when the game was supposed to be transitioning to the next day it seemed to just freeze. The music was still playing, and the calendar was in the corner of the screen, but nothing else. Then the loading icon appeared in the bottom right. It was about a full minute or two before anything happened, and a message appeared saying something like "An error has occurred". I was convinced I'd be dumped back to the Dashboard and I'd lose all my progress, but thankfully it loaded up the following day.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:That wouldn’t even be so bad if it wouldn’t take away all your time blocks between dungeons most of the time. You don’t get to make any choices, you’re just hitting x til the game lets you play it again. Ya I don't have much time to play some days and a few days I literally did nothing but press x most of which is repeated dialogue. Even with fast forwarding some parts, I spent hours doing nothing. Repeated dialogue was probably the biggest offender. Man I wish this was on pc and someone just modded the freaking smartphone out of the game. Their convo's are so long and you can't even fast forward it.
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Feb 9, 2018 15:52
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ApplesandOranges posted:You need to do a second run if you want to Platinum the game (since there are three trophies that can only be done on NG+), so if you're going to min-max you might as well do it on the run that matters. I'm not sure if I'm going to bother platinuming the game  I mean, obviously if I fail then I won't get the trophy for it (or the closure of most of the stories) and then if I go back I'll still have all the benefits from new game + that I would've had anyways if I didn't try so I don't see the harm.
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Feb 9, 2018 15:56
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What are you guys using as accessories for the rest of the team? I've got the SP one on joker. Thinking of the same for whomever else I am using.
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Feb 9, 2018 17:35
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Stumpus posted:What are you guys using as accessories for the rest of the team? I've got the SP one on joker. Thinking of the same for whomever else I am using. SP Adhesive 3 on everyone. Don't bother buying the lower ranking ones, just save up for rank 3 one at a time
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Feb 9, 2018 17:38
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Kaza42 posted:SP Adhesive 3 on everyone. Don't bother buying the lower ranking ones, just save up for rank 3 one at a time How much do these cost when I hit rank 7?
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Feb 9, 2018 17:41
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50,000 yen each.
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Feb 9, 2018 17:43
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ApplesandOranges posted:50,000 yen each. Nice, I should easily have enough money and rank for four of them before the third palace then.
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Feb 9, 2018 17:47
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Alright people who have followed this series before, should I grab SMT IV or SMT IV Apocalypse if I’m just gonna get one?
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Feb 9, 2018 23:47
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Stumpus posted:What are you guys using as accessories for the rest of the team? I've got the SP one on joker. Thinking of the same for whomever else I am using. SP Adhesive 3 on Joker, random stat buffs on everyone else unless I'm in a dungeon where they cast hama/mudo a lot and then its Hermelin badges from the DLC. Makes it easy mode, especially on New Game +.
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Feb 10, 2018 03:10
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Ulio posted:Ya I don't have much time to play some days and a few days I literally did nothing but press x most of which is repeated dialogue. Even with fast forwarding some parts, I spent hours doing nothing. The game is 50% visual novel, so yeah.
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So uh. I think I’m stuck, or at least as stuck as it’s possible to be. I have reached the Madarame fight and it’s not even close. After looking at a guide, it’s suggested that I have Skills which do Physical damage to all foes. Great, except I don’t on any character. That seems to make the second round of the painting fight completely impossible. Since I can’t take out just one since it just heals. Also: it’s currently the last day I can take out Madarame (May 31st) so I can’t really go do anything else. So yeah. Am I hosed?
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Feb 11, 2018 04:53
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If all else fails, you can try turning the difficulty down to Easy for that one fight?
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HaB posted:So uh. You can just let the failure ending happen and then take the option to go back a week if you need to level more or get different personas.
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Feb 11, 2018 06:53
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If I remember correctly Madarame fight is pretty easy. Just focus the side pieces then go on the center piece when it's left alone. Becareful of using some aoe elemental spells as it might heal some pieces. Try to take out the most annoying piece first. Use debuffs and buffs as well. This shouldn't be really a tough fight imo, you could also just go back and level up your party a bit. I haven't finished the game but the hardest boss fight was Kamoshida for me.
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Feb 11, 2018 22:45
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Even if you don't have any non single-target damage abilities you can still just eventually wear down the pieces faster than they can heal in a war of attrition, since they only ever regenerate at half health and another piece needs to spend a turn to bring it back.
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Ulio posted:the hardest boss fight was Kamoshida for me. Did you get Media on Mona before fighting him? That makes all the difference IMO
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Feb 12, 2018 02:31
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Madarame was actually pretty tough if you're going in blind and don't have Rampage/Vicious Strike on Ryuji and Yusuke yet. Ann is helpful to Tarunda if you're really having trouble with healing, but she can only debuff one target at a time.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Madarame was actually pretty tough if you're going in blind and don't have Rampage/Vicious Strike on Ryuji and Yusuke yet. Ann is helpful to Tarunda if you're really having trouble with healing, but she can only debuff one target at a time. Ryuji learns Rampage at 17 which is pretty low for Madarame in my experience. I think my dudes were level 19 or so at that point.
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Feb 12, 2018 03:33
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So...if I'm in love with Persona 5 and want more Persona is my best bet getting a Vita for P4 Golden and P3P?
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Zore posted:Ryuji learns Rampage at 17 which is pretty low for Madarame in my experience. I was 16 when I hit Madarame the first time. If you were going through the palace efficiently on Hard I think around there or lower's the norm. Cinnamon Bear posted:So...if I'm in love with Persona 5 and want more Persona is my best bet getting a Vita for P4 Golden and P3P? Yeah, just keep in mind that the older games are, well, a bit more outdated. P3P in particular is pretty far back (but way better than FES just because of FeMC). P4G still holds up decently, though.
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Cinnamon Bear posted:So...if I'm in love with Persona 5 and want more Persona is my best bet getting a Vita for P4 Golden and P3P? Going back to P3 after starting with 5 is pretty rough. Persona 4 can be an even better game than 5, depending on what you're looking for.
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Cinnamon Bear posted:So...if I'm in love with Persona 5 and want more Persona is my best bet getting a Vita for P4 Golden and P3P? ApplesandOranges posted:I was 16 when I hit Madarame the first time. If you were going through the palace efficiently on Hard I think around there or lower's the norm. I liked the main cast of P4G better. But the game also knows how to toy with your emotions pretty good. It helps that the voice acting in P4 is top notch for the main characters. Yet, P5 is the first game to have the main dungeons not be procedurally generated dungeons, and it's tough going back to such bland dungeons.
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Zore posted:Ryuji learns Rampage at 17 which is pretty low for Madarame in my experience. Yeah everyone was 15-16 except for Yusuke, since I think he starts at 17 or so. I finally beat it by bumping the difficulty down to Easy. Weird thing is, I chumped EVERYTHING in Madarame's Palace to the point where I got to the guy guarding the Security Room before I even took damage from anything. Like I could hit weaknesses with Joker right away and either Hold Up or just finish everything off via 1 More. Contrast that with Yamoshida's Palace where I wouldn't say I struggled, but I definitely had some tough fights leading up to the boss. So I wasn't expecting the Madarame boss fight to jump up in difficulty so much, since I was actually afraid I was OVERleveled since the Palace was kind of a cakewalk.
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I'm really annoyed because I realized this weekend that the whole "restart a battle after you die" thing isn't exclusive to safe mode even though the difficulty screen made it seem like that was the case. Watching a streamer play was what finally pushed me over the edge to just buy the game and he had triggered the restart a few times so I just figured that's what difficulty he was on, but nope  Dungeons are actually probably my least favorite part of the game, though who knows if that's because of how piss easy safe mode makes everything, so maybe that's a good thing.On the positive side, I still am enjoying the heck out of the game. The music is wonderful (a shame that I don't like the dungeons because the music in them is so good), and I really love all the social link stuff, to the point I would probably still like the game if you just removed everything to do with the Phantom Thieves, or just made them auto-missions with progress/success based on your stats and links. I also like how all your confidants figure out that you're in the Phantom Thieves by max level, at least so far. I've only maxed a couple of them but going by the events of the ones that are getting close I expect similar results. I just got to September so I think I have three months to finish everyone? If I could go back I would probably shuffle my priorities a little bit, but not a whole lot (specifically so I could get one of the confidants to a higher affinity before the class trip). I think I'll still be able to do it, especially now that I have affinity readings unlocked. Related, my earlier indecision on what to do about the protag's romance was completely resolved when I saw Makoto's awakening.
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I think it's only bosses you can restart the battle with outside of safe mode
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ThomasPaine posted:I think it's only bosses you can restart the battle with outside of safe mode I'm pretty sure I remember him restarting one after getting ko'd by an instakill attack from a normal enemy in the fourth palace but maybe he was just very close to a save point and I didn't see the in between since I was mostly watching at work. Speaking of palaces, I feel like if they were maybe 25% shorter I would be a lot less annoyed by them. Or at least for the last two I did, can't remember the first two very well in that regard.
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