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Does anyone make webcomics for kids? By which I mean, not 12-13 year old kids who like sonic and post on forums, but like little kids with burgeoning literacy skills who shouldn't be on computers or tablets in the first place. Seems like a fairly massive oversight TBH
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FunkyAl posted:Does anyone make webcomics for kids? By which I mean, not 12-13 year old kids who like sonic and post on forums, but like little kids with burgeoning literacy skills who shouldn't be on computers or tablets in the first place. Seems like a fairly massive oversight TBH Jailbird has been on hiatus for a bit, but it's good and the closest thing I can think of. Harpy Gee is for slightly older kids, but other than that, I can't think of anything for little little kids.
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Feb 11, 2018 01:36
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There was Katie Cook's Gronk, but she hasn't updated that in ages.
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Feb 11, 2018 01:51
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FunkyAl posted:Does anyone make webcomics for kids? By which I mean, not 12-13 year old kids who like sonic and post on forums, but like little kids with burgeoning literacy skills who shouldn't be on computers or tablets in the first place. Seems like a fairly massive oversight TBH Freefall was intended to be a children's book, which you can really tell what with the furry pinup scenes and extended meditation on dogfucking
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Feb 11, 2018 02:18
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FunkyAl posted:Does anyone make webcomics for kids? By which I mean, not 12-13 year old kids who like sonic and post on forums, but like little kids with burgeoning literacy skills who shouldn't be on computers or tablets in the first place. Seems like a fairly massive oversight TBH I do a webcomic called The Fuzzy Princess, and I try to keep it kid-friendly.
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Feb 11, 2018 02:23
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I totally forgot about Peritale and was going to mention Roji, but it's not on Costa's site anywhere, not on Hiveworks, and when I tried to navigate to the page from a search, the connection reset so I guess it's not a thing anymore? Her other stuff's pretty tame, but some of it can be depressing.
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Feb 11, 2018 06:16
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it's there and updated on thursday i think you might need to clear your cache iirc i think its some bug hiveworks hasn't yet caught?
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Feb 11, 2018 08:26
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peritale i mean, i misread your post at first i think
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Feb 11, 2018 08:26
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cucumber quest, paranatural, and demon's street all seem reasonably kid-friendly. monster pulse honestly does work for like, older kids
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Feb 11, 2018 09:10
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I'd recommend Bad Machinery for slightly older kids (surprising no one).
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Feb 11, 2018 09:51
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Kate Ashwin/Kojiro of Widdershins fame also does a kids comic for a British publication called The Phoenix, but that's print rather than web.
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Feb 11, 2018 10:16
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Tollymain posted:cucumber quest, paranatural, and demon's street all seem reasonably kid-friendly. monster pulse honestly does work for like, older kids I'd add Kiwi Blitz to that list, probably in the 7+ range for kids though.
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Feb 11, 2018 10:18
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gunnerkrigg also works for older kids imo
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Feb 11, 2018 12:00
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kill six billion demons family-friendly edit e: kick six billion demons
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Feb 11, 2018 12:01
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Kate Ashwin/Kojiro of Widdershins fame also does a kids comic for a British publication called The Phoenix, but that's print rather than web. Sup! You are right, The Phoenix is for 6-12 year olds, and its on comixology in the US/Canada at the moment if I remember correctly, and in print here in the UK! So I guess it's digital, but not really a webcomic.. There's some amazing stuff for kids in there though! I think if you're putting a thing in front of your kid to read, you probably want something a little more 'controlled' than a webcomic, if you feel me? I'm not a parent, so I can't say for sure, but I'd be more likely to grab them something where I had a little more assurance that it was definitely kid-friendly. I definitely have older kids reading Widdershins, but generally that's the print version because the parents can check it over first. Kids comics are huge right now, kids webcomics.. not so much.
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Feb 11, 2018 13:37
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Yeah, when I say print I mean digital as well, basically just professionally curated and marketed. Webcomics are a wild west of Geocities-quality websites where things like mobile friendliness don't dare to tread, so while kids might discover them on their own, there is no way in hell that most parents are going to show them to their kids. Even relatively tame webcomics can quickly lead you to Tollymain posted:kill six billion demons family-friendly edit The 4Kids edit. Cio: "In the past, I was a Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Feb 11, 2018 |
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Feb 11, 2018 13:58
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imagine the censored version of the art tho
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Feb 11, 2018 14:18
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Tollymain posted:imagine the censored version of the art tho All scenes of violence against teacups are expunged. Suddenly, the comic is 1000% better.
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Feb 11, 2018 16:50
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For dead webcomics, sometimes I like to reread Spamusement, where the guy drew panels based on spam email headers he received.
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Feb 11, 2018 19:44
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Kojiro posted:Sup! You are right, The Phoenix is for 6-12 year olds, and its on comixology in the US/Canada at the moment if I remember correctly, and in print here in the UK! So I guess it's digital, but not really a webcomic.. There's some amazing stuff for kids in there though! Hey that's really cool! You're doin the good legwork and its good that that's in print. How's that kinda stuff sold in the UK? are drugstores and newstands active And I agree! But kids see very odd stuff very early on online, I know I did, so I think it's also not a bad idea to populate it with kid accessible stuff. And that's actually another point I want to bring up, It's true that a lot of these comics are kid friendly but outside of monster pulse n g-k i dunno what they have to like, intrigue kids. Plus even those are hard to jump into at a certain point! Like, if you create a cartoon on some level you have to go in with the conception that its accessibility to minors, regardless of subject matter, contains a certain responsibility. Andrew Hussie had a cult of drama kids from high school following him and we should thank out lucky stars all he did was take their money in exchange for goth shirts and grey facepaint and $300 artisan troll horns and a harmlessly bad extremely boring video game. And andew hussie could be anyone, i never met the guy! But Matt Groening also made adult stuff that a kid could understand, and I wouldn't mind my kid finding and reading life in hell earlier than he or she proabably should. Mister Beeg posted:I do a webcomic called The Fuzzy Princess, and I try to keep it kid-friendly. Mister big your stuff reminds me of wizard of id kinda! It looks like you draw it with a brush, do you ever try painting these? I like your color choice but i think digital paint can only offer so much nuance. Also I tried reading paranatural the other day and brother! I was not impressed! It's like one of those cartoons about a kid going to school or something, like a diary of a wimpy kid movie but without man's inhumanity to man and with more kids saying "zoobie woobie! I saw a ghost!" and a website that is inexplicably dunkin donuts colored. And are the color choices in this comic really the entire rainbow at once? blerf.
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Feb 11, 2018 19:52
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FunkyAl posted:Hey that's really cool! You're doin the good legwork and its good that that's in print. How's that kinda stuff sold in the UK? are drugstores and newstands active FunkyAl posted:And I agree! But kids see very odd stuff very early on online, I know I did, so I think it's also not a bad idea to populate it with kid accessible stuff. And that's actually another point I want to bring up, It's true that a lot of these comics are kid friendly but outside of monster pulse n g-k i dunno what they have to like, intrigue kids. Plus even those are hard to jump into at a certain point! Like, if you create a cartoon on some level you have to go in with the conception that its accessibility to minors, regardless of subject matter, contains a certain responsibility. Andrew Hussie had a cult of drama kids from high school following him and we should thank out lucky stars all he did was take their money in exchange for goth shirts and grey facepaint and $300 artisan troll horns and a harmlessly bad extremely boring video game. And andew hussie could be anyone, i never met the guy! But Matt Groening also made adult stuff that a kid could understand, and I wouldn't mind my kid finding and reading life in hell earlier than he or she proabably should.
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Feb 11, 2018 20:25
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Phy posted:For dead webcomics, sometimes I like to reread Spamusement, where the guy drew panels based on spam email headers he received. Ahhh. So this is what Strong Bad Email was parodying when they did that episode on webcomics. ("That gunk is ill") FunkyAl posted:Mister big your stuff reminds me of wizard of id kinda! It looks like you draw it with a brush, do you ever try painting these? I like your color choice but i think digital paint can only offer so much nuance. I don't know if I'll use real-life paint on my comics, although it might be fun to do occasional illustrations with it, like how the creator of "Wallace the Brave" (itself a kid-friendly webcomic I highly recommend) does from time to time. I used to use inkwash a lot and they were always fun. (Also hi, I don't post much here although I lurk!)
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Feb 11, 2018 21:18
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I'll never forget when I was in middle school and browsing the Nintendo Forums, and somebody linked to a website that hosted my first webcomics, not counting how I checked foxtrot online every day. The guy who ran it turned out to be a massive pedophile, and now that I'm an adult all the faults of the comics are blatantly obvious.
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Feb 11, 2018 22:21
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SlothfulCobra posted:I'll never forget when I was in middle school and browsing the Nintendo Forums, and somebody linked to a website that hosted my first webcomics, not counting how I checked foxtrot online every day.
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Feb 11, 2018 22:39
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Oh did that obvious fact finally get proven? I remember hearing about him a lot in the late 2000s and maybe early 2010s and then he just vanished from my infosphere
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Feb 12, 2018 01:19
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crazy to think bleedman has four pilots in development at cartoon network right now!Kojiro posted:Probably since a lot of kids now have parents who grew up on the internet, you'd have thought we'd be better at filtering this stuff, but god knows the internet always finds a way, like with that weird youtube algorithm poo poo. I have no notion of how to fix that or contain it, besides some sort of curated, specifically kid-friendly webcomic collective/site, but it'd have to come from some kinda trusted source, I think. It's doable I think! a subscription service is a good idea, i think you could build a dependable imprint off that model! oh yeah and who knows what's up with that frozen elsa poo poo, wtf matey FunkyAl fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Feb 12, 2018 |
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Feb 12, 2018 01:19
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Burkion posted:Oh did that obvious fact finally get proven? It's hard to say something new about an unspoken-but-very-blatant pedophile/torture porn enthusiast. It's not like he's done anything remarkable since the "Mandy Did 9/11" thing, and being one of the most popular artists on DevianArt doesn't mean much when nobody cares about it any more.
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Feb 12, 2018 01:39
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FunkyAl posted:oh yeah and who knows what's up with that frozen elsa poo poo, wtf matey An advertising scam. Parents put kids in front of a Youtube Kids tablet so that the kids can slowly become quasi-autistic in peace and quiet. Kids passively watch youtube videos and youtube has an automatic "next vid" system using algorithms to try to find something related to the current video. Tablet kids being too passive and stupefied to stop watching or interfere with youtube's automatism, this means that if your videos get chosen by Youtube's algorithms to be the next vid, you'll get ad revenue from all the dumb kids watching it! You need to generate a lot of content which will try to be related to youtube kids videos, so you get some random AI generation to churn out all these counterfeit kid videos. Of course, these generators need to get source material to remix, and also need to obtain statistical data about which kids videos are trending on youtube. What's the best way to do that? Why, to have your generators watch youtube kids, of course! Turns out that the majority of the audience for the advertising scam on youtube kids is the server farms generating random content for the advertising scam. This is some sort of overunity poo poo. Anyway, if you have kids, do not let them use the Internet. Because the Internet would make them stupid.
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Feb 12, 2018 01:48
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PMush Perfect posted:It's okay, you can say Bleedman. So far as I know, Bleedman's never gone further than just producing sexual depictions of little girls. I was referring to the guy behind Fireball20xl, who was actively pursuing abusive sexual relations with minors. In retrospect, it's one of those things that's not much of a surprise when you actually look at his work, but you don't really understand any of that kind of stuff when you're younger.
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Feb 12, 2018 02:39
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my mother started me on clive barker when i was 10 and i turned out fine so just let your kids read anything imo
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Feb 12, 2018 03:14
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true leftist posted:my mother started me on clive barker when i was 10 and i turned out fine so just let your kids read anything imo Yeah but not on a screen. Make them read on paper like Luddites. I'm serious about that, "screen time" must be limited for children. Plain old paper doesn't have the same fascinating power that computerized gizmos have.
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Feb 12, 2018 03:25
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Cat Mattress is operating on about four more levels of irony than I can decode.
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Feb 12, 2018 03:29
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Nah, tech addiction is a serious problem, especially for kids. It's way worse than when we were young.
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Feb 12, 2018 03:31
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Cat Mattress posted:I'm serious about that, "screen time" must be limited for children.
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Feb 12, 2018 03:41
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If you're befuddled by any of this, watch Dan Olson's definitive explanation/take down on the whole "weird algorithmic YouTube kids videos" racket, which has apparently come to be known as #Elsagate, because gently caress the internet forever, I want it to die. Dude does a pretty solid job of explaining what it is and why it's a problem for literally everyone involved. Also just watch Dan Olson's stuff in general because he's absolutely fantastic.
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Feb 12, 2018 03:50
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Cat Mattress posted:Yeah but not on a screen. Make them read on paper like Luddites. I'm serious about that, "screen time" must be limited for children. Plain old paper doesn't have the same fascinating power that computerized gizmos have. That particular article you linked specifies kids aged 0-4, which is important to note. (As opposed to 'do not allow children to use the internet, ever, it causes autism'.) E: it also isn’t specific to the internet, it talks about tv as well. Basically the article may have merit but I think you are fearmongering in extrapolating it to older kids when that’s not what it’s about. Mors Rattus fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Feb 12, 2018 |
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Feb 12, 2018 03:53
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PMush Perfect posted:It's okay, you can say Bleedman. No, if you invoke his name he starts another fetish comic!
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Feb 12, 2018 04:01
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Computers are bad for kid's eyes and books aren't expecially! and the refresh rates on monitors make computers are both distracting and hard to look at for extended periods because it's like...a flashing light, the fascinating thing we all like to look at. It aint rocket science its just one of the other kinds, of science, and it doesnt have to be your or your hypothetical childrens death sentence its just something to watch out for, and not everyone on earth is gonna be attentive about this so that's just something else to consider. The elsa videos are weird because they're more about color training and repetitive hypnotic patterns than than like if a kid watched a movie with the f word or stabbing or boobies in it.PMush Perfect posted:Well, if by that you mean "stop neglecting your children and expecting YouTube to raise them for you" then, yeah, agree, but if you're saying that the internet is somehow ~especially evil~ and throwing autistic children under the bus as a way to excuse your bad parenting, then you've got a problem. who was arguing this?
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Feb 12, 2018 04:05
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SlothfulCobra posted:So far as I know, Bleedman's never gone further than just producing sexual depictions of little girls. I was referring to the guy behind Fireball20xl, who was actively pursuing abusive sexual relations with minors. ... Huh, I didn't really know the guy behind that site, but weren't they connected to The Spriters Resource or something? When I was younger I read some comics by people who got sprites from and occasionally submitted content to that place. At least one of the people there was a pedophile too. Looking back at things I saw on the Internet now that I'm less naive and oblivious is... Odd, sometimes, to say the least.
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No one should be using the internet, ever.
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