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DrNutt posted:Well the stick works great, now I just have to get into what seems like a nigh-impenetrable game. The last 4 pages of this thread honestly seem like they might as well be in another language. Courier and delivery jobs initially pay gently caress all but if you do jobs for the same faction long enough to rise in faction standing, they start paying better. If you want to be extra clever, try and pick a rich, heavily populated high-tech or industrial system as your 'base of operations', those have the best variety of ships and equipment available and tend to generate more lucrative jobs. LTT 15574 is a decent spot to start out, it's only a couple of jumps from the starting system and has some RESes to do some freerange bounty hunting in if that's your thing. Mission rewards also scale based on your pilot ranking, which comes in three flavors: Combat ranking: Raised by turning in bounties and combat bonds, along with completing combat missions. Trade ranking: Raised by making profit on the commodity market, along with completing courier and delivery missions. Exploration ranking: Raised by turning in exploration data to Universal Cartographics, along with completing salvage missions. As for the ships you'll initially want to start working towards, you have a few options: Eagle: 44,800 CR. The single cheapest ship in the game (barring the Sidewinder). An incredibly nimble light fighter, extremely fun to fly. Superior to the Sidewinder in Hauler: 52,720 CR. The space breadvan. It's not particularly fast, but it's cheap, has an expansive cargo bay for something its size, and has the firepower of half a Sidewinder. If you like making money via trading or making those bigger delivery missions, the Hauler is a decent cheap first choice, but.. Adder: 87,810 CR. The Hauler's bigger brother. The Adder is more expensive than the Hauler, but makes up for the increased price tag in flexibility; not only does it have a slightly larger cargo potential and better jump range, but it's also surprisingly nimble for its looks and carries some pretty big guns. It's still a great beginner for trading and it can be configured to do a little bit of everything depending on your particular needs. It's basically what the Sidewinder tries to be. Imperial Eagle: 110,830 CR. This one takes a little more work, seeing as it's only sold in Imperial stations - it's essentially an Eagle with upgraded weapons and power systems, along with the thruster array reconfigured towards more straightline speed and acceleration than agility. Still a fun and relatively cheap light fighter with a surprising bite for something its size, albeit pretty fragile. After these 'entry-level- ships, the Viper-3 and Cobra-3 make for great ships to aim for - the Viper is a fast and fun heavy fighter, the Cobra more of a flexible multipurpose ship. By the time you've saved enough money for them, you've probably got a decent handle on what you're looking for in a ship. Note that unlike many games, you get the full price of a thing back when you sell it. Don't be afraid to experiment with ships and loadouts - nor to upgrade your current ride while you're working your way towards a new one. Your first priorities when tweaking your ship should probably be the power distributor (it tends to be the cheapest thing on your ship yet makes literally everything better) and FSD (for ease of travel), followed by your shields, weapons and thrusters, the precise order depending on your preferences. Upgrade your power generator to keep up with demand, and don't worry overmuch about your life support or sensors. Try aiming for D- or C-rated core equipment first - those are still reasonably cost-efficient, while B- and A-grade equipment, while powerful, is dramatically more expensive. Start saving up for those when you've settled on a ship you'll be using for longer. Drake_263 fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Feb 11, 2018 |
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DrNutt posted:Well the stick works great, now I just have to get into what seems like a nigh-impenetrable game. The last 4 pages of this thread honestly seem like they might as well be in another language. Obvious thing to do if you want to get a good grasp on the game is actually to join the frogs: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3773251 The goon faction. They are very friendly, very helpful and is an easy way into some of the multiplayer content, which is soon to be hopefully getting a revamp for the better. For some quick fun and profit you can ask to ride along as a fighter pilot on one of the bigger ships, or they'll let you know what to do if you want to spend your time fighting, exploring, or trading or mining. Maybe you want to do smuggling? Loads of activities.
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Holy poo poo, thanks for that amazing effort post, and thanks for the goon faction info. This is kind of a dumb question, but where can I actually buy a ship? So far I have yet to find an Outpost where that is possible. v Thanks!  v
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DrNutt posted:This is kind of a dumb question, but where can I actually buy a ship? So far I have yet to find an Outpost where that is possible. You just need to find a station with a Shipyard. Most big stations have them; the kind that you can fly inside of, rather than land on top of. On the System Map, they'll appear as square-ish or round logos, with a dash in the middle. While you're in the System Map, might as well double check and make sure your prospective destination has "Shipyard" listed under facilities (if it's a typical large station, it probably will). Once you've landed, Shipyard will be listed under Ship Services, just below Outfitting. Trustworthy fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Feb 11, 2018 |
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DrNutt posted:Holy poo poo, thanks for that amazing effort post, and thanks for the goon faction info. Happy to help! Elite is kind of infamous for doing the sandbox thing where you get dumped in the big playground and are expected to sort of muddle your way through. To use the former example, Haxel Port in LTT 15574 is a full-on station instead of those bunch-of-modules-welded-together outposts. You can tell the difference in your navigation panel - outposts have a symbol that looks sort of like a satellite with antennas on it, stations have a diamond-inside-a-square symbol on it (it's supposed to look like a Coriolis station). If you have Horizons, planetary outposts that don't have docking facilities have two small buildings on their navigation marker, ones that you can actually dock at have a third tower added in the back. Edit: Another little thing they don't tell you but makes things easier, stations always have their 'mailslot' - the entry to the docking cavity - on the face that's rotating counterclockwise. Picture you're grabbing the station with your right hand so that your fingers wrap around it along the direction of the rotation, the docking bay is where your thumb is. Drake_263 fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Feb 11, 2018 |
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Feb 11, 2018 19:08
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Drake_263 posted:Happy to help! Elite is kind of infamous for doing the sandbox thing where you get dumped in the big playground and are expected to sort of muddle your way through. Thanks again. I'm feeling accomplished, I just took a job that paid out 34,000 credits and it took me to a starport where I was able to purchase an eagle with those funds and some funds I had already saved. Now to start upgrading!
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DrNutt posted:Thanks again. I'm feeling accomplished, I just took a job that paid out 34,000 credits and it took me to a starport where I was able to purchase an eagle with those funds and some funds I had already saved. Now to start upgrading! Happy to help, and grats on your very first own ship! It's genuinely one of the most fun ships to fly out there.
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Drake_263 posted:Courier and delivery jobs initially pay gently caress all but if you do jobs for the same faction long enough to rise in faction standing, they start paying better. If you want to be extra clever, try and pick a rich, heavily populated high-tech or industrial system as your 'base of operations', those have the best variety of ships and equipment available and tend to generate more lucrative jobs. LTT 15574 is a decent spot to start out, it's only a couple of jumps from the starting system and has some RESes to do some freerange bounty hunting in if that's your thing. Quoting this to find it later.
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DrNutt posted:Holy poo poo, thanks for that amazing effort post, and thanks for the goon faction info. You can also use the elite: dangerous database to find stations that sell whatever you want, or basically anything else.
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Drake_263 posted:Happy to help, and grats on your very first own ship! It's genuinely one of the most fun ships to fly out there. I also just noticed that I was able to take a mission despite not meeting the rank requirements for it. Does this typically mean anything for courier missions? I'm assuming that for combat missions it will be a lot harder if I'm out of my depth, but courier missions seem pretty hard to screw up. e: Also hope the thread doesn't mind my newbie questions, I played the tutorial missions but they don't cover a lot of this stuff. It's a really cool game but I feel like I should have a spiral bound 500 page manual sitting next to me while I play it. e2: and god drat if this game isn't the ultimate chill out game to play while coming down from a PUBG high. The music and sounds are extremely soothing and I think this is what I wanted No man's sky to be. Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Feb 11, 2018 |
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Feb 11, 2018 20:41
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DrNutt posted:Thanks again. I'm feeling accomplished, I just took a job that paid out 34,000 credits and it took me to a starport where I was able to purchase an eagle with those funds and some funds I had already saved. Now to start upgrading! I love this. I'm not doing any more engineering grinding until Beyond comes out. gently caress base loops for firmware. I think I'm just going to push for rank 5 in PP for prismatic access (and creds) until the patch.
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DrNutt posted:I also just noticed that I was able to take a mission despite not meeting the rank requirements for it. Does this typically mean anything for courier missions? I'm assuming that for combat missions it will be a lot harder if I'm out of my depth, but courier missions seem pretty hard to screw up. Missions don't have rank requirements, though they used to. Rank for missions is more suggested and basically tells difficulty and/or payout. DrNutt posted:e: Also hope the thread doesn't mind my newbie questions, I played the tutorial missions but they don't cover a lot of this stuff. It's a really cool game but I feel like I should have a spiral bound 500 page manual sitting next to me while I play it. The tutorials are a joke and don't actually help in any meaningful way. You'll get more help from this thread or (a lot more) on the frog discord.
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Feb 11, 2018 20:57
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Natsuumi posted:Missions don't have rank requirements, though they used to. Rank for missions is more suggested and basically tells difficulty and/or payout. I thought the tutorials were at least useful for walking me through the controls that I'd undoubtedly forgotten after the last time I tried to get into the game but then I started the game proper and got a preflight checklist that covered it all, lol.
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Nice piece of fish posted:Obvious thing to do if you want to get a good grasp on the game is actually to join the frogs: Is it okay to join up if I'm a fairly casual gamer who has add tendencies? I get really into a game hard for a couple months and then drop it for a while before jumping back in. I'm also a gaming omnivore so I pretty much always want to play anything that comes out regardless of genre as long as it's good, so I get distracted by all kinds of poo poo. If it's helpful to just be a dude who logs in and does missions for our faction or whatever I'm definitely on board with that.
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DrNutt posted:Is it okay to join up if I'm a fairly casual gamer who has add tendencies? I get really into a game hard for a couple months and then drop it for a while before jumping back in. I'm also a gaming omnivore so I pretty much always want to play anything that comes out regardless of genre as long as it's good, so I get distracted by all kinds of poo poo. Join up and do as little or as much as you want. "Casual gamer who has add tendencies" describes most of the frogs in general.
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Absolutely join regardless of how much you think you'll actually play. The DIscord is a great source of advice and partners for various activities, along generally putting you in touch with a heap of useful data in the form of our pet AI. Besides, it's wonderful motivation to actually get around to playing, whether it's fleet objectives, people to try different things with, or just weird ideas, ranging from 'please go to this system and do X' to just 'if you want to do trading, please do it in this system, it'll help us while you make money'. Also, for the record, newbie questions and advice are a very welcome change to the pre-patch jitters and general bitching about Frontier's latest exploits. Keep 'em coming! Edit: A handful of missions are locked behind player rank, but most of the time the suggested rank is just a measure of how challenging a mission will be. Doing missions over your rank will IIRC get you bonus rep/rank/credits. Be aware that some noncombat missions like courier/delivery/salvage runs will spawn NPCs trying to ambush you, and higher-rank missions will generally spawn nastier pirates after your poo poo. Also, friendly hint. You know how some missions give you commodities as rewards, stuff like micro-weave cooling hoses etc? Generally you'll want to sell those ASAP. Having those in your hold will attract pirates very much willing to kamikaze you for your poo poo. (Once you start engineering, you'll want to keep an eye for Modular Terminals, but when you're starting out it's essentially extra income). Drake_263 fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Feb 11, 2018 |
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Inspector Hound posted:You can also use the elite: dangerous database to find stations that sell whatever you want, or basically anything else. Some more links for new people: https://coriolis.edcd.io/ - Updated ship builder, one in the op is the old version. Has a button near the top right that automatically links you to the closest stations with the ship + full fit you've created in the builder. https://scotty.newlevels.org/materials/ - List of every Engineering material and how many uses each one has. Great for gauging what to keep though soon to not be as useful with the changes to material caps. Still has some other useful stuff. https://inara.cz/galaxy-engineers/ - All the engineers in order and with all the unlock requirements and offered services  Sheet with every single stellar object and their worth at different levels of scanning detail. The stars on the far right edge are the fuel scoopables. And finally https://www.alpha-orbital.com/pathfinder - A simple road-to-riches route that gets you your first millions pretty quickly by sending you to rare stellar objects for scanning money. Some pretty neat sights too if that's your thing. Rynoto fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Feb 11, 2018 |
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Kaddish posted:I'm not doing any more engineering grinding until Beyond comes out. gently caress base loops for firmware. I think I'm just going to push for rank 5 in PP for prismatic access (and creds) until the patch. Whew, I finally finished grinding out the modules I wanted to stockpile before Beyond. gently caress base loops indeed. Public Service Announcement: A Clipper makes a good placeholder for engineered Chieftain guts; all the core slots (except sensors) are the same size. Since I've been back in the bubble, I also engineered up a little salvage mission Courier, with DD5 racing engines and a distributor that can keep me above 700m/s indefinitely. While I'm not a fan of the Imperial aesthetic, it's definitely the coolest, craziest ship I've flown in a long time. I've been having a blast scooping up crates of rare artwork, while idiot pirates give me ultimatum countdowns. By the time they open fire, I'm already fukkin gone 
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Feb 11, 2018 23:01
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i drank too much and stayed up to 3 just cooping in the undead settlement of dark souls so i spent the entire day watching the first season of dirk gently’s holistic detective agency now i ate some delicious chili and am getting a big cheeseburger how’s everyone’s sunday going edit: wrong thread hows it going ellen degeneres thread
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Cowcaster posted:i drank too much and stayed up to 3 just cooping in the undead settlement of dark souls so i spent the entire day watching the first season of dirk gently’s holistic detective agency now i ate some delicious chili and am getting a big cheeseburger how’s everyone’s sunday going Estus flask? More like Estes rocket!
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Trustworthy posted:Estus flask? More like Estes rocket! 
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Cowcaster posted:i drank too much and stayed up to 3 just cooping in the undead settlement of dark souls so i spent the entire day watching the first season of dirk gently’s holistic detective agency now i ate some delicious chili and am getting a big cheeseburger how’s everyone’s sunday going  except ck2, Wonder Woman, and steak
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Cowcaster posted:i drank too much and stayed up to 3 just cooping in the undead settlement of dark souls so i spent the entire day watching the first season of dirk gently’s holistic detective agency now i ate some delicious chili and am getting a big cheeseburger how’s everyone’s sunday going Careful that you don't eat too much chili and suffer memory loss. 
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Trustworthy posted:Public Service Announcement: A Clipper makes a good placeholder for engineered Chieftain guts; all the core slots (except sensors) are the same size.
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Rynoto posted:Some more links for new people: nice i didn't know about that engineering materials site also, here's a habitable zone chart, to help explorers find terraformable planets and earthlike worlds: 
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just posting to second all the suggestions to check out the diamond frogs discord - I have over 300 hours in this game and I still ask dumb newbie questions all the time in the discord for real tho there are very knowledgeable diamond frog goons who are more than willing to answer any question/help you with any ship outfitting issues/ even help you dip your toes in RES sites/combat zones or let you fly a fighter in multi-crew shenanigans and if you want to get into this game the discord is the best way to do it
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For those interested, have a link to the Diamond Frogs' PGS thread with all the fun info on how you too can idle on discord, ask questions, and probably get your nickname involuntarily changed a couple of dozen times. Hooray!
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Mike the TV posted:I like taking screenshots that look like they are from FTL. Love the style, but an Asp Scout 
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48 Hour Boner posted:Love the style, but an Asp Scout Haha, after a while you stop caring about having the best ship and just want a fun one. CMDRs usually pass over the AspS but it has plenty to offer, especially with some minor engineering. I personally think it looks really cool too. The rear thrusters are neat as heck.
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So I finally picked this up on the last steam sale. I dabble in astronomy so space types games are always a draw for me. I just started playing it in the last few days and it's been pretty fun trying to figure this stuff out. Exploring has been interesting seeing stuff, but I'm not really clear on how I make money doing it. Trading seems to be pointless without a huge hauler so I've skipped that. I've been doing these courier/data mission and now have a cobra 3 or something that is kind of nice. The only thing I don't like about these missions is some times they send me a message saying "oh gently caress we need the data now I'll give you 80,000 credits extra" and then I check the time and it's like "you have 1 minute to deliver" and there is no loving way you can make it that fast :/ I don't have a hotas setup at the moment and I suspect that is probably the cause of my biggest issues which is combat related. It seems most times when I do a little SRV mission thing I'll end up getting bounties for the sentry done because they are illegal or whatever but then I get a bounty on me for trespassing and the federal no fun police or whatever then blow me up right when I take off again. I keep seeing the political stuff and I can't make heads or tails of it yet -- does any of this matter in the grand scheme of things?
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Mike the TV posted:I like taking screenshots that look like they are from FTL. Yeah that is a very cool way of taking pictures. Especially with that paint job!
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xylo posted:So I finally picked this up on the last steam sale. I dabble in astronomy so space types games are always a draw for me. I just started playing it in the last few days and it's been pretty fun trying to figure this stuff out. Making money exploring is a pretty simple affair that consists of two required components and optional stuff for how far out you want to go. The first item required is the Advanced Discovery Scanner, this device takes a few seconds to charge before revealing the basic orbits and details of every stellar body in the system and gives you the bare minimum reward. The second item is called the Detailed Surface Scanner, this device allows you to scan stellar bodies you are pointing at that are within range to reveal all of the specific information of that body. Things like mineral content, rotational period, temperature, etc. are all here and give you the maximum money available. Should note the range of the DSS is drastically affected by the size of the body you are pointing at and tiny moons/barely planets are almost never worth the time it takes flying close enough for scanning. With these two in hand you grab a ship with a fuel scoop and set off into the unknown looking for high value targets - usually waterworlds and terraformable planets with a sprinkling of other large body worlds. Trading for money almost entirely relies on rare commodity circuits and needs a pretty decent amount of space. Courier/Data are the most efficient ways to build reputation with factions and can be decent money at the high end. Useful for stacking deliveries to the same station if you have a decent spot. The bonuses are rarely worth pushing for. Combat flying is a bit trickier in that you'll want to learn how and when to toggle Flight-Assist off and keeping speed regulated for maximum maneuverability. Turning FA off allows you to pull significantly tighter turns at the expense of drift and having to be more aware of current movement against where the ship is pointed while speed regulation is important because too high or low a speed will negatively influence the maneuverability of the ship itself. Unless you're needing to get somewhere quickly you should try and stay decently within the marked off area on the speed bar - usually towards the middle - during combat so as to help stay behind enemies. The SRV missions are just bollocks and always a pain so eh. The political stuff is linked to the Background Simulation which controls mission availability, faction control, prices, rewards, trading, etc and is quite deep and complex. hth. Rynoto fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Feb 12, 2018 |
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Thanks for that. Going to skip the silly SRV stuff for now then since it seems to take forever to do and is a pain. Other questions: 1) How do I "fix" my mail window?" I am continually getting overlapping mails and it's all garbled up. If I delete them all I can still see ghost threads. 2) Is there any way to speed up the mission board? It takes like 15 seconds to open and is slow as gently caress.
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From my own experience the mail window only breaks when you get too many nested mission texts and can best be avoided by purging it regularly. Why this bug hasn't been fixed is anyone's guess. Are you running the game on an SSD? Never had the board take more than a few seconds even at peak busy server times. No idea what else could cause it.
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The ships in this game have always sort of had a sense of scale problem without VR, like, sit inside an anaconda or imperial clipper and it is hard to appreciate or internalize just how large of an area you are sitting in. But the Python bridge is hands down the best bridge there is in this game. For one, the visual references tell you exactly how large it is, and from chair to chair it is nearly the same size as my couch, or of the inside of my uncle’s Winnebago. Which means when I am sitting on the left side of my couch and playing this game for hours and I glance over across to the other side it just feels right. It makes long treks into the void feel like camping trips, or that time my uncle drove me to Wyoming without telling my mom. For instance: For another, it has a badass old rough feel to it that works well in this game. Much nicer than the Gutamediocre shipyard production efforts. It even has a cubby in the center console for food snacks or rope. I have only found three neutron stars in all of the Orion/Bernard’s loop area, and no black holes, which has been kind of a let down. However, today I stumbled upon a system in the center of the Orion Nebula that had a registered form of government. So I went. And of course, there is literally a tourist trap 5000ly from the bubble.  I bought a t-shirt and sent my mom a postcard.
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DrNutt posted:Is it okay to join up if I'm a fairly casual gamer who has add tendencies? I get really into a game hard for a couple months and then drop it for a while before jumping back in. I'm also a gaming omnivore so I pretty much always want to play anything that comes out regardless of genre as long as it's good, so I get distracted by all kinds of poo poo. Late, but yeah Natsuumi posted:Join up and do as little or as much as you want. "Casual gamer who has add tendencies" describes most of the frogs in general. this. In fact, I haven't done a loving thing that resembles "work" for the frogs since the emblem cg because I don't have the energy to even start the game up at the mo'. For new players joining the frogs is a pro move and will give you something to do once the game stops having interesting goals for you. Plus, they are hella good guys. Except FrogBear, watch the gently caress out for that guy.
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Rynoto posted:Are you running the game on an SSD? Never had the board take more than a few seconds even at peak busy server times. No idea what else could cause it.
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Blind Rasputin posted:Where is that last one? Tannhauser gate? Those are gorgeous. I’m only taking mine on the Xbox and touching them up but I can only imagine what they’d be off of a PC with mods and such. Up in Barnard's Loop, the only blue small nebula in there. I took these when I was skipping across the galaxy at impossible distances because I wanted to get pictures of all the nebula in the galaxy. I have an imgur gallery here and all the pictures of nebula being far away were as close as I could get to it. Since I could skip whereever I wanted I could try to get the best angles but there simply weren't any stars close enough to warp to. I heard later that a lot of these systems ended up being permit-restricted which always weirded me out. Certainly someone would someone would have flash their ship's BIOS in order to jump to systems where software was blocking them   This is a unique nebula (you'd be surprised at how often nebula are copy/pasted across the galaxy, like that double-bubble purple one) that you couldn't get any closer to. A shame too because those colors are very grandma.
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