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panascope
Mar 26, 2005

Truly a rare misstep for the finest model company in the world. I say we lend our support through this dark time by Buying More

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adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
Ah, so those are the underslung red-dot sights I have been hearing about so much. I'm amazed at how poo poo GW is at making uniform bolt pistols, it seems they are hardly ever the same in the same range. They nail plasma pistols, but bolt pistols and, less noticeably, laspistols are just impossible.

People on Specialist Thread said this thread is cool and good, so here's a link to a thing I wrote:
http://www.wargamer.com/articles/light-in-an-age-of-darkness-the-rule-changes-horus-heresy-should-embrace/

To prove my 30K chops, here's a picture of a recent purchase:


I'm an idiot who bought Prospero before it was even released, sold everything save for MKIIIs, purchased the Calth commanders, a DG dread, chest pieces, missile launchers and chest pieces, assembled and painted everything by July, and then pre-ordered the Age of Darkness books to get the reference sheets (I laminated them).

You may notice the lack of "played the game" in that paragraph. That's because, to my knowledge, I have the only assembled and painted 30K army in my city if not the entire Lithuania. I have one friend who has basically the entire Custodes infantry range as well as Dreads and the Palas Anti-Grav Cutie-Pie. Not assembled, tho.

My current wishlist is to have one of each infantry unit that loyalist DG could have and dreads (but not the weird looking Daredeo). I just want to play 1k pts Zone Mortalis/Tactical Strike :/

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
Zone Mortalis is a fantastic way to play small games that really moves fast and amplifies legion differences. A bunch of us met up at LVO to play it. Death Guard can be really deadly in boarding actions.

A lack of opponents has hurt a lot of 30k players since 30k vs 40k stopped being a thing. :(

Broken Record Talk
Jul 28, 2009

A three-hundred thousand degree baptism by nuclear fire;
we had it coming.

This IS cool and good. I'd add the new movement stats and varied damage values to the list of things to include in a new game, but otherwise, I'm in pretty much total agreement.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



JcDent posted:

You may notice the lack of "played the game" in that paragraph. That's because, to my knowledge, I have 30K

Welcome home.

Hustlin Floh
Jul 20, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
It's a great time to get into 30k now that they keep changing what's going to be in the next book and the latest wave of models (barring Dorn) look like complete poo poo. Pull up a chair around the feasting table and fill your flagon, young cub.

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
It always a good time to be mad.

Hustlin Floh
Jul 20, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
That's the real meaning of The Hobby.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

Hustlin Floh posted:

It's a great time to get into 30k now that they keep changing what's going to be in the next book and the latest wave of models (barring Dorn) look like complete poo poo. Pull up a chair around the feasting table and fill your flagon, young cub.

Hey, I was born mad! However, most of my mad-sperience is with 40K, not 30K! Yet...

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Where did all the good sculptors go?

Broken Record Talk
Jul 28, 2009

A three-hundred thousand degree baptism by nuclear fire;
we had it coming.

Endman posted:

Where did all the good sculptors go?

Specialist games. Not being sarcastic.

Beerdeer
Apr 25, 2006

Frank Herbert's Dude
Come back to us, Gary Morley

Hixson
Mar 27, 2009

Y’all toxic

tallkidwithglasses
Feb 7, 2006

Hixson posted:

Y’all toxic

stop creating a hostile posting environment!

Hustlin Floh
Jul 20, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
HH sculptors tend to be on average more toxic that specialist games in my experience, that kinda "Look at us, we're a special club" mentality.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


I don’t care about their work culture, I just want space men that don’t look like poo poo

DJ Dizzy
Feb 11, 2009

Real men don't use bolters.

Beerdeer posted:

Come back to us, Gary Morley



DJ Dizzy fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Feb 13, 2018

Beerdeer
Apr 25, 2006

Frank Herbert's Dude

That’s the good stuff, I’m almost there

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
How did the hobby survive the 90s.

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you
it didn't

we're all dead

Ayn Marx
Dec 21, 2012

Toxic posting time

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
Welcome to the 30k thread, home of toxic posters. Please, join our cesspool.

Bubblewrap.
Bubblewrap.
Spreadsheet.
I'm gay.

Hixson
Mar 27, 2009

Hixson posted:

I started a shared doc for 30k calculations. Can you guys check my numbers?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vTY4FlDcTPaqt4OzRylNSL4OsPOJvZoI-s0VLaqH718/edit?usp=sharing

Can I get some input on this please? Math hammer is very important to me

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
Powergaming fool. Going to take Tyranids and Eldar as allies for my Frey Knights ue to command point synergies can someone back me up on the fluff here??????

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
On a semi serious point, I tried making a 1000pts Solar Auxilia list for Mortalis without climbing over 300 euro.

The best strat so far was giving the commander basically all of the upgrades, bumping him tp 250ish pts and allowing a Turbo Veletaris elite choice. I ended up with fewer models than in my 1k DG.

In conclusion, no Solar Auxilia for me.

Ayn Marx
Dec 21, 2012

TTerrible posted:

Powergaming fool. Going to take Tyranids and Eldar as allies for my Frey Knights ue to command point synergies can someone back me up on the fluff here??????

Bubblewrap that toxic poo poo on a spreadsheet you pleb

tallkidwithglasses
Feb 7, 2006

JcDent posted:

On a semi serious point, I tried making a 1000pts Solar Auxilia list for Mortalis without climbing over 300 euro.

The best strat so far was giving the commander basically all of the upgrades, bumping him tp 250ish pts and allowing a Turbo Veletaris elite choice. I ended up with fewer models than in my 1k DG.

In conclusion, no Solar Auxilia for me.

:shepspends:

Ayn Marx
Dec 21, 2012


Well this looks baller, money well spent

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
Which bullshit FW unit is your favorite and why?

Hixson posted:

Can I get some input on this please? Math hammer is very important to me

Tried to comment, but they are disabled. Can you please un-bubble-wrap commenting?

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through

BULBASAUR posted:

Which bullshit FW unit is your favorite and why?


Tried to comment, but they are disabled. Can you please un-bubble-wrap commenting?

Please don't use bullshit made up terms. The comments are in defilade and you want Hixon to put you in an enfilade position.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

BULBASAUR posted:

Which bullshit FW unit is your favorite and why?

Is this a legit question? I'm not used to irony posting.

If it's legit, I'll need a definition of "bullshit" since I'm an opinion haver and I need to prep the correct ones.

tallkidwithglasses
Feb 7, 2006
I think it’s an open discussion topic.

I for one like javelins because they’re 75 points apiece and virtually guaranteed to get at least 100 points of kills each, and often bag 2-300 point models.

I’m excited to try out quad mortars and a Malcador Infernus though, I suspect they’ll be my new favorites after a couple games.

panascope
Mar 26, 2005

BULBASAUR posted:

Which bullshit FW unit is your favorite and why?

Magnus. He makes games extremely relaxing because I know I won’t need to put any effort in, I can get mad with no work!

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
My favorite are destroyers. A unit so bullshit your opponents will beg you to never take them again

JcDent posted:

Is this a legit question? I'm not used to irony posting.

If it's legit, I'll need a definition of "bullshit" since I'm an opinion haver and I need to prep the correct ones.

There is no irony in this thread, battle bro

Mango Polo
Aug 4, 2007

JcDent posted:

Is this a legit question? I'm not used to irony posting.

If it's legit, I'll need a definition of "bullshit" since I'm an opinion haver and I need to prep the correct ones.

Let's flip the question around, which bullshit FW unit do you hate the most.

For me it's Sisters of Silence because they neuter the Sekhmet which are otherwise fine and balanced

DrPop
Aug 22, 2004


I hate the Mhara Gal. Can walk through walls, forces invulns to be rerolled, and is only vulnerable to Stasis Grenades, which are used by the worst legion.

Hixson
Mar 27, 2009

panascope posted:

Magnus. He makes games extremely relaxing because I know I won’t need to put any effort in, I can get mad with no work!

Same but unironically

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



Yeah, I hope they really tone down Dark Angels when they get their real rules. Frankly, losing D3 victory points isn't nearly enough to counteract how good swords are.

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Beerdeer
Apr 25, 2006

Frank Herbert's Dude
Dude. REALLY good with swords.

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