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i predict that beef will probably end up becoming a niche item that only the super rich eat, kinda like it was in ancient greece, where all the poors ate grains or maybe sometimes fowl/chickens
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Taintrunner posted:China already has massive ghost cities as a result of trying to construct new urban centers and failing to fill them with people. Many of these projects are investment opportunities for real estate developers and other capitalist actors continuing to grow their wealth off the exploitation of others. https://www.wired.com/2016/02/kai-caemmerer-unborn-cities/ Construction and real estate is a huge part of their economy still
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The environmental debate always boils down to an argument between people who think we are at peak Walmart and people who believe the nature of Walmart is limitless and eternal
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D.Ork Bimboolean posted:Even the most self-sufficient farms require massive influx of outside resources to get the ball rolling. Including labor, transportation to/from markets and so on. Have animals? Great, better grow enough to feed them or you'll be dumping cash into foodstock. Don't have animals? Better get ready to dump cash into fertilizer. Don't have space for garden and grazing AND shelter AND housing? Don't bother. Also the labour to take care of all of that!
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Is there an actual example of energy consumption going down or is it always just oh poo poo (technology) got more efficient, better use twice as much of it
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aphid_licker posted:Is there an actual example of energy consumption going down or is it always just oh poo poo (technology) got more efficient, better use twice as much of it Capitalism's hunger for endless exponential growth makes a drop in energy consumption basically impossible. We will expand to fill any gap that efficiency can get us. e: it's analogous to the problem with labor. Productivity from machines makes us able to do way more production with way less time than we could before, but the only reductions in the working week come from labor unions or governments forcing it to happen.
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rudatron posted:i predict that beef will probably end up becoming a niche item that only the super rich eat, kinda like it was in ancient greece, where all the poors ate grains or maybe sometimes fowl/chickens This is me irl,and i live in a country that makes some of the best pork\beef in the world.ive actually gained weight,but that may be because soy bolognese is loving delicious.
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rudatron posted:i predict that beef will probably end up becoming a niche item that only the super rich eat, kinda like it was in ancient greece, where all the poors ate grains or maybe sometimes fowl/chickens i predict that the US and the developed world will nuke the Global South before giving up meat for the average person.
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I was gonna say the US is not typical of beef consumption, it consumes more beef than any other country in the world and it's not even close. 4% of world population consuming 20% of the world's beef But also lamb is cheaper than beef and Egypt, a country with like 100 million people, calls Eid Adha "Eid of Meat" because it's the only budgeted lamb expense for a lot of families for the entire year
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aphid_licker posted:Is there an actual example of energy consumption going down or is it always just oh poo poo (technology) got more efficient, better use twice as much of it nope. jevon's paradox always wins.
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shrike82 posted:i predict that the US and the developed world will nuke the Global South before giving up meat for the average person.
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aphid_licker posted:Is there an actual example of energy consumption going down or is it always just oh poo poo (technology) got more efficient, better use twice as much of it best case scenario is that it shifts to something marginally less bad (natural gas replacing coal)
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aphid_licker posted:Is there an actual example of energy consumption going down or is it always just oh poo poo (technology) got more efficient, better use twice as much of it Growth was tapering off recently to I think almost flat right?
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Is Wall Street burning yet
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M_Gargantua posted:It was also brought up that the price varies wildly based on location and permitting. If the US begun a systematic process of nuclear upgrade and rollout of one or two modernized Gen3+ designs, the multi-billion dollar permitting and licencing cost would become amorticized over the total number of deployments. Avoiding NIMBY issues location selection can also be fast tracked by national effort. If. I mean, yeah, I'm super in the tank pro-nuclear but the NRC couldn't organize an orgy in a brothel, and that's by design.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Is Wall Street burning yet open is in 15 minutes 
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what a fuckin graph https://twitter.com/ritholtz/status/963061417707372545
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:what a fuckin graph TVs are now free
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on the one hand, all the necessities of life, vital health services, and chances of social mobility, are all becoming more and more expensive but on the other hand, stupid apps and tvs are cheap who can say for sure whether or not capitalism is bad 
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I hate him way more than a lot of other folks in this criminal government
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rudatron posted:on the one hand, all the necessities of life, vital health services, and chances of social mobility, are all becoming more and more expensive in case you weren’t around back when this happened and missed it: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSTRE72A4AC20110311
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:what a fuckin graph When reading this graph one has to keep in mind that the Wages growth doesn't really look anywhere near as nice for 90% of people, while the price inflation applies to all the same... THE AWESOME GHOST posted:TVs are now free It's incredible how far can you stretch the tightest family budget these days by substituting meat and milk protein with polymers from TVs. The kids might groan and complain at first but all complaints quickly go quiet after a steady diet of TV stew for a couple weeks. Teal fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Feb 12, 2018 |
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:what a fuckin graph I will keep this in mind so I can really savor it the next time I buy everyday consumer items such as clothing, household furnishings, televisions and wages.
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from the stock advice thread hostile apostle posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/tradeXIV/comments/7wty32/i_lost_14_million_and_now_i_am_bankrupt/
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it's unbelievable we dont have proper social security so nincompoops who lose everything on roulette don't contemplate suicide
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"I gambled my entire life savings on something that could have zeroed out at literally any moment and it finally bit me in the rear end"
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ponzi schemes for the rubes, etfs for the petit bourgeois.
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don't be too harsh on rubes, our entire culture pushes the idea that you're trash if you're haven't 'made it', and you can't ever 'make it' without either being incredibly lucky or if you inherited wealth
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Ruzihm posted:from the stock advice thread trump
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:TVs are now free That charity in Videodrome that donated TV watching time to homeless people
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market seems to be recovering as of yet, dow up 1,6 %... Dead cat bounce or did we call the end of capitalism in advance?
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nothing has changed since chaos week but nothing catastrophic has happened so it's probably just gonna be wildly volatile for a few more weeks until something structural gives way and the bottom falls out, which iirc is how most of the recent recessions got started it's kind of impossible to predict exactly when that will happen given how opaque the world of finance is, though. tbh im glad it's going up today because I'm selling my piddly ~6k of mutual funds at whatever the close price is today
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White Rock posted:market seems to be recovering as of yet, dow up 1,6 %... Let me see here, now, I am just a simple kind of dummy but as far as I can understand, as many people have pointed out, there has been a lot of coverage about "good news" being responsible for the "market correction" in the sense that there was a strong showing for wage growth which spooked Wall Street because the go to reaction to wage growth is a hike in interest rates on the part of the fed. Since the whole purpose of the economy since the last market crash has been "ensure rich people face no consequences" with all the "quantitative easing" and "non-existing interest rates", this structural motivation to raise interest rates is what people are saying caused this reckoning. I think that means that the whole thing is unable to face a shock caused by the normal operating rules and procedures which govern the organized economy's behavior, so it's looking pretty hosed up because the fed is on track to get interest rates up to 2% by the end of the year as far as I understand and maybe that won't gently caress everything up forever, but it might, I guess. Some of that might be on target, someone set me straight, I am doing my best here.
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White Rock posted:market seems to be recovering as of yet, dow up 1,6 %... a dead cat bounce comes after a market crash (when people with money try to buy the bottom), which hasn't really happened yet what's happening right now is either a return to "normal" after a market correction, or a bull trap finance is full of bullshit slang, don't worry about it too much the bitcoin of weed posted:nothing has changed since chaos week but nothing catastrophic has happened so it's probably just gonna be wildly volatile for a few more weeks until something structural gives way and the bottom falls out, which iirc is how most of the recent recessions got started yeah that's been my read of the situation. the gains got so consistent that people are getting spooked and wondering if this is really based on anything (it's not), now there's gonna be pushing back and forth
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