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Punkin Spunkin posted:Not only does he rape the trans character but his loving is so dope the trans character switches to their side or some poo poo Don't be silly, Destroy & Revolution was always bad. I liked the powers they used in it though.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:akumetsu was fun dumb wish fulfillment, and it was pretty popular here a few years back. unfortunately, that led to the wolf guy debacle. Jesus. Wolfguy. Started off SO GOOD, then. Then THAT happened, and KEPT HAPPENNING UNTIL THE FINAL VOLUME.
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Feb 12, 2018 14:41
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Not only does he rape the trans character but his loving is so dope the trans character switches to their side or some poo poo destroying america is cool and good
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Feb 12, 2018 15:16
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It seems that the moment a series introduces rape into its story, that series turns to poo poo. Or am I overgeneralizing?
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Feb 12, 2018 16:24
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It's a very difficult thing to incorporate into your story with the appropriate amount of sensitivity and it turns out that being a male author whose claim to fame is romanticizing street fights doesn't really qualify you for saying anything meaningful and appropriate about sexual assault
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Feb 12, 2018 16:43
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Jose posted:destroying america is cool and good japanese should turn their hate inwards, first.
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Feb 12, 2018 17:10
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Mraagvpeine posted:It seems that the moment a series introduces rape into its story, that series turns to poo poo. Or am I overgeneralizing? It really depends on how the series is written following it. Some can pull it off, like Berserk, but most can not. What about when a series opens with attempted rape? The Killing Bites manga did, though the would-be rapists got brutally murdered for their attempt, and then what was translated at the time became Bloody Roar:The Manga.
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Feb 12, 2018 17:19
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:akumetsu was fun dumb wish fulfillment, and it was pretty popular here a few years back. unfortunately, that led to the wolf guy debacle. Was the wish being fulfilled murdering people doing Keynsian infrastructure projects because of THE DEBT? Because that is a weird wish.
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Feb 12, 2018 18:00
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genericnick posted:Was the wish being fulfilled murdering people doing Keynsian infrastructure projects because of THE DEBT? Because that is a weird wish. lol this should go in the guillotine.txt thread
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Feb 12, 2018 18:03
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Finally got round to reading a couple of seinen staples. Liar Game is a lot of fun and I like the art. I know it's pretty limited in terms of characterisation and themes, but I find it really moreish. Gantz is bad - got maybe 4 chapters in before stopping. I should've known better. Inuyashiki was a lot more interesting (still not great though).
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Feb 12, 2018 18:34
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Chas McGill posted:Gantz is bad - got maybe 4 chapters in before stopping. I should've known better. Inuyashiki was a lot more interesting (still not great though). Gantz was good when it was the early fights against super strong aliens and the cast was a revolving door. But it also had completely needless attempted rape and actual rape.
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Feb 12, 2018 18:38
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gantz had good parts but was not good overall
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Feb 12, 2018 18:44
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Yeah, the aliens seem fun and I like the central concept. It's just too gross, though. The way the girl was introduced made me lose interest pretty fast.
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Feb 12, 2018 18:55
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genericnick posted:Was the wish being fulfilled murdering people doing Keynsian infrastructure projects because of THE DEBT? Because that is a weird wish. lol you misread the series extremely badly if this is your takeaway
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Feb 12, 2018 19:05
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I thought the tech and fights in Gantz were neat looking (the gravity gun is one of my favorite weapons), but the story and characters ranged from mediocre to bad.
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Schubalts posted:It really depends on how the series is written following it. Some can pull it off, like Berserk, but most can not. that opening bit of Killing Bites comes and goes quickly enough but in the anime they now have this cobra therianthrope who is a huge piece of poo poo that strings up the women he fights and talks constantly about wanting to rape them, and he's scheduled to stick around for a second episode this week. the only positive is he's going to be brutally destroyed by honey badger.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:31
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Schubalts posted:Jesus. Wolfguy. Started off SO GOOD, then. Then THAT happened, and KEPT HAPPENNING UNTIL THE FINAL VOLUME. I almost completely forgot about Wolf Guy until you guys just now reminded me of it THANKS A LOT GUYS.
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Feb 12, 2018 21:47
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it's funny because a bunch of us were so dumb that we didn't realize that a remake of an old rape porn manga was a rape porn manga. thankfully the thread completely died once the rape started.
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Feb 12, 2018 22:14
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well it helps when ya don't...know any rape porn manga...I should've just assumed since goons were reading it, I guess, but for a moment it was like "haha look at this smug guy hahah" just read sakamoto desu ga yall, it's better in every way, has no rape, and has the true king of highschool smug
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Feb 12, 2018 22:21
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Punkin Spunkin posted:well it helps when ya don't...know any rape porn manga...I should've just assumed since goons were reading it, I guess, but for a moment it was like "haha look at this smug guy hahah" someone posted a couple pages of the original in the thread.
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Regarding Suicide Island/Holyland guy, it's so obvious that the author has this super romanticized idea of how a True Man lives, and that it consists of being a manly nerd who Lives Off The Land and Cares For His* Woman, plus some Japanese nationalism thrown into the mix. *emphasis on the "basically owning the woman" part; Suicide Island's relationship between the protagonist and his PTSD girlfriend is all kinds of condescending and doesn't even attempt to portray it as anything other than the protagonist essentially rescuing the girl Punkin Spunkin posted:It seems like "I'll half kill you" was my Tokyo ghoul peak, but I still think those initial first chapters advertise a less dumb series than what we got and I was rarely interested in most of the ghoul hunting cop characters I actually enjoyed Tokyo Ghoul, including Re: after a kind of slow start. It's hard to explain exactly why, since a lot of the criticism people give is completely accurate. It doesn't give me quite the "nerd trying to be serious and hardcore" feeling as the Suicide Island/Holyland author, and the art is kind of neat. I think the main thing I like about it is that the setting is pretty well realized and it does a decent job of maintaining a certain kind of tone. The one really absurd thing is the power creep, though. They end up introducing these ghouls who are absurdly powerful relative to other ghouls, often for unclear reasons. The strength of the Clowns in general is really weird and doesn't make much sense. The best explanation I can think of is "being a cannibal as a ghoul makes you both really loving strong and really loving crazy, which naturally results in an organization of really loving strong + crazy ghouls forming." edit: regarding Kaneki, I actually liked what Re: did for his character. He was getting kind of boring later into the original series, and having him meet and be influenced by these other characters worked pretty well (and I liked a couple of them, like the guy with a stick up his rear end and the guy who died). Insurrectionist posted:Also Touka didn't get to do jack poo poo the whole loving manga after being introduced as badass and that was really hosed up, imo, and I won't even forgive it if it turns out she owns in :RE or whatever What ends up happening with (spoilers for Re:)Touka is immensely lame, even if it sort of makes sense in terms of character growth. She basically becomes really nice and friendly and later into Re: when Kaneki comes back she's like "let's bang" and he's like "okay"* and then they bang for a chapter (I have to give that chapter credit for being a lot more fan-service-y regarding Kaneki than it was Touka - apparently Kaneki has a lot of female fans and that scene was obviously written with appealing to them in mind). Touka then ends up pregnant and makes herself sick eating human food because the baby (who is half-human) needs it. She keeps this a secret from Kaneki for some reason. She does get to do some fighting later, at least. *I'm not exaggerating much here. She basically says "I noticed how were you checking me out when you visited the cafe" and he goes "uh, um, uh" and then she goes "I wuz checkin you out too  " and then just asks if he wants to gently caress IIRC
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I should've just assumed since goons were reading it
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Ytlaya posted:What ends up happening with (spoilers for Re:)Touka is immensely lame, even if it sort of makes sense in terms of character growth. She basically becomes really nice and friendly and later into Re: when Kaneki comes back she's like "let's bang" and he's like "okay"* and then they bang for a chapter (I have to give that chapter credit for being a lot more fan-service-y regarding Kaneki than it was Touka - apparently Kaneki has a lot of female fans and that scene was obviously written with appealing to them in mind). Touka then ends up pregnant and makes herself sick eating human food because the baby (who is half-human) needs it. She keeps this a secret from Kaneki for some reason. Wait, I thought that female Ghouls cannot have half-Ghoul kids because they absorb them in the womb? or something like that.
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Mraagvpeine posted:It seems that the moment a series introduces rape into its story, that series turns to poo poo. Or am I overgeneralizing? Berserk uses it but sparingly. After all if it was common then THAT moment wouldn't resonate as strongly. And I guess people still like Devilman despite the stuff that happens in that.
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I come here expecting something awful, sirYtlaya posted:I actually enjoyed Tokyo Ghoul, including Re: after a kind of slow start. It's hard to explain exactly why, since a lot of the criticism people give is completely accurate. It doesn't give me quite the "nerd trying to be serious and hardcore" feeling as the Suicide Island/Holyland author, and the art is kind of neat. I think the main thing I like about it is that the setting is pretty well realized and it does a decent job of maintaining a certain kind of tone.   is that Re? or was that still in Tokyo Ghoul? Cuz man that bad translation didn't help.
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It's been so long but I don't recall Akumetsu concerning itself about the merits or various economic theories, just reveling in how cool it was that corrupt old men die in ludicrous ways.
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Captain Invictus posted:you did this before my man, but can you not assume the worst of people so much? I know it's easy what with how awful the world is these days, but not everyone is secretly a monstrous, sinister person just hiding beneath the surface. Yea, most of us reading Wolf Guy didn't even know that it was a remake of something in the first place.
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Mraagvpeine posted:Wait, I thought that female Ghouls cannot have half-Ghoul kids because they absorb them in the womb? or something like that. I forget the details, but isn't this similar to what happened with the Owl? He was a ghoul and hooked up with a human woman, and they had Eto. Then again Eto seemed to have the dietary habits of a regular ghoul, so not sure what's up with that. Maybe ghoul status is determined by the father? All I know is that Touka was eating hamburgers and struggling to keep them down to feed the baby. Punkin Spunkin posted:I come here expecting something awful, sir I believe this is original Tokyo Ghoul, because Hinami is still young (Re: skips forward a couple years or so, and Hinami looks significantly older in it). Tokyo Ghoul's translation might suffer from being somewhat old, back when scanlations were less consistent.
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Ytlaya posted:I forget the details, but isn't this similar to what happened with the Owl? He was a ghoul and hooked up with a human woman, and they had Eto. Then again Eto seemed to have the dietary habits of a regular ghoul, so not sure what's up with that. Maybe ghoul status is determined by the father? All I know is that Touka was eating hamburgers and struggling to keep them down to feed the baby. Half-ghoul children would either not be conceived in the first place, or die because either their human mother would not eat human flesh, or their ghoul mother would not keep down human food. Owl's wife decided to "do everything it took" to have their child, with all the dietary implications that carried. quote:I believe this is original Tokyo Ghoul, because Hinami is still young (Re: skips forward a couple years or so, and Hinami looks significantly older in it). The current ~best translations for :Re are from Mangastream. And yea, that is from the first series.
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As someone who never read Tokyo Ghoul and whose whole impression of it comes from the discussion here, it sound incredibly loving edgy and stupid.
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Pierson posted:It's been so long but I don't recall Akumetsu concerning itself about the merits or various economic theories, just reveling in how cool it was that corrupt old men die in ludicrous ways. Akumetsu is a glorious shitshow
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Schubalts posted:Half-ghoul children would either not be conceived in the first place, or die because either their human mother would not eat human flesh, or their ghoul mother would not keep down human food. Owl's wife decided to "do everything it took" to have their child, with all the dietary implications that carried. This makes me think that it's dependent upon the father, and Touka basically had to do the reverse of what Eto's mother did. (Also I think half-ghoul children being conceived is the sort of thing that is very uncommon but can happen as a "miracle." I guess you could also argue that Kaneki being a half-ghoul somehow made it more feasible than it would otherwise be, but not sure how that meshes with the baby needing human food.)
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Pierson posted:It's been so long but I don't recall Akumetsu concerning itself about the merits or various economic theories, just reveling in how cool it was that corrupt old men die in ludicrous ways. As far as I remember the only national level problem he kept harping on about was the national debt and he (I think?) murdered the guy building not fully necessary highways the same as the guys poisoning children for profit. I found that kind of funny in a distracting way.
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I gave up on the series after about 10 chapters. The only thing keeping me reading that long was wondering what the trick was with the main guy, and why his head kept exploding. Was that ever explained?
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Galvanik posted:I gave up on the series after about 10 chapters. The only thing keeping me reading that long was wondering what the trick was with the main guy, and why his head kept exploding. Was that ever explained? clone hive mind
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:clone hive mind This sounds dumb enough out of context that if I hadn't already read the series I'd have assumed this was a joke response.
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IIRC an ultra-rich guy wanted to be immortal so he developed memory copying tech and genetically engineered super smart clones, I'm hazy on this part but I think a clone or clones woke up and escaped with the technology and decided to improve the world through murder. The akumetsu masks were miniaturized versions of the mind transfer machine that would copy and upload the memories of suiciding clones the moment before they died.
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The best thing about Gantz was the random jungle anime intro out of nowhere.
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Captain Invictus posted:Akumetsu is a glorious shitshow I wish the translation hadn't gone to poo poo about half-way through. I really enjoyed what I read, but then the translation got so bad it became distracting and I had to drop it. :-/
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Chapter 41 of Dungeon Meshi/Delicious In Dungeon is up: https://mangadex.com/chapter/84083/1
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