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Daztek posted:Star Citizen: Not dead, just resting Paarping for the fjords. tax https://i.imgur.com/c3iHdZo.mp4 Slow_Moe fucked around with this message at 13:26 on Feb 13, 2018 |
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I'm so looking forward to seeing the  armchair lawyers meltdown once the MtD is thrown out.
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Feb 13, 2018 13:35
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I keep reading MtD as Mountaindew.
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Feb 13, 2018 13:36
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Beexoffel posted:I keep reading MtD as Mountaindew. it's ok, they might still have a meltdown if that gets thrown out too
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Feb 13, 2018 13:38
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Tinfoil Papercut posted:I'm so looking forward to seeing the They won't meltdown they'll just spin it into "this is good for CIG because" *theorycraft* "and then everyone in the courtroom will stand up and clap when the judge who loves space sends Cryrekt to jail forever" No matter what happens where will be no backer salt to mine because it's never going to be CIGs fault in their eyes. It's been 0-7 years now depending on who you ask why are people still not getting that?
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Feb 13, 2018 13:40
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Jason Sextro posted:it's ok, they might still have a meltdown if that gets thrown out too I think I'll read MtD as meltdown now.
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Feb 13, 2018 13:40
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If it actually happens the meltdowns in this thread will be amazing to.
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Feb 13, 2018 13:47
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SelenicMartian posted:What if SotA refunds Derek without him asking? The March blog just doesnt sound as cool 
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Feb 13, 2018 14:22
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alf_pogs posted:we all float down here Like turds in a stream...
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Feb 13, 2018 14:22
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quote:pledge The word pledge is usually used to denote a binding promise of funds when a task is completed. It's often used for things like sponsored events. "I pledge to give the named charity $5 if you complete the half-marathon." In the case of CIG, it is most definitely a purchase - in many cases a pre-order - of digital goods, (or digital bads). You can't have a 'sale' on 'rewards for pledges'. That's simply insanity. Star Citizen will trundle on in this manner for another five years in my estimation. It will probably evolve into a glitchy version of second life where Citizens can visit and admire each others "space houses". Some time this year cosmetic items for ship customization will go on sale. There will never be any gameplay loops which feel meaningful or satisfying.
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Feb 13, 2018 14:23
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Fellow kick-started CryEngine game Kingdom Come: Deliverance was released today. It's not as good as backers expected, and it's causing some hilarity as people deal with the reality.
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Feb 13, 2018 14:23
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TheLastRoboKy posted:Charlie Hall I will reveal the identity of the person who owns the Star Citizen promise tracker but only if you do a 50 episode Battlecruiser 3000AD Let's Play with each episode being 30 minutes minimum. This, unsarcastically. I'd like to see someone tackle an LP of that anyway. I'd never actually seen any of how it was played, so I looked up the most "newbie friendly" FAQ which weighed in at like 400k of text. Reading through that made me want to go relax and enjoy some much more accessible forms of entertainment like X3: Albion Prelude. Or Dwarf Fortress. Or attending law school at Harvard. Upon looking it up, I realized I'd forgotten that the whole "wildly over-ambitious developer tries to make the perfect space game / development cycle that a kangaroo could be born and die of old age within / years of hype for non-existant product / flight model gets developed late in the dev cycle (and is largely incompatible with the rest of the game) / unplayably buggy and feature-bereft demos and early releases / litigation and strife with basically every party involved / 7-year-long internet flamewars" thing has all happened before. I mean, I knew it intellectually (goons cut their teeth making fun of game dev calamities) but it didn't really sink in until now. But the fact that there's a BC3K to LP speaks volumes. What those volumes say, I don't know. But it's probably a lot. Especially if Derek wrote them.  
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Feb 13, 2018 14:39
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Fellow kick-started CryEngine game Kingdom Come: Deliverance was released today. It's not as good as backers expected, and it's causing some hilarity as people deal with the reality. 
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Feb 13, 2018 15:01
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Bayonnefrog posted:Nice. I made Italian gravy this Sunday as well. Just a tip: you want to use bone-in pork chops always. More flavor. Also: chicken? Blaspheme. Unlike the bleu cheese in tacos thing. Making sauce with whatever meat you had was indeed a thing. Dark meat chicken with it's delicious rendered fat and moist flesh are a nice addition. I would have made some brioche but I couldn't find some flank that wasn't over packaged into family size.
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Feb 13, 2018 15:10
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Fellow kick-started CryEngine game Kingdom Come: Deliverance was released today. It's not as good as backers expected, and it's causing some hilarity as people deal with the reality. Maybe one day people will learn to stop throwing money at unproven devs with wildly ambitious game pitches. Who am I kidding?
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Feb 13, 2018 15:12
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big nipples big life posted:Maybe one day people will learn to stop throwing money at unproven devs with wildly ambitious game pitches. and one day game development will be known for ethical business practices, fair pay and reasonable hours
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Feb 13, 2018 15:18
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https://clips.twitch.tv/AntsyCourteousHerdJebaited
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Feb 13, 2018 15:19
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Stop making me want that game before a sale.
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Feb 13, 2018 15:23
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https://clips.twitch.tv/CleanEasyHedgehogBIRB https://clips.twitch.tv/CuriousSilkyLemurDerp Nipplejets are IN!
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Feb 13, 2018 15:29
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https://clips.twitch.tv/CrowdedDifficultMangetoutPogChamp
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Feb 13, 2018 15:30
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:If the hurdle of "it's a purchase, not a pledge" has already been cleared in the legal system, then there's already (probably, I'm not a lawyer let alone a UK one) plenty of case law about promising X and delivering Y, even in software terms. The more time elapses since people "pledged", the further you get from "what was promised when I spent money on it" vs. "what's being delivered" and the easier it gets to argue that you purchased one thing and got something completely different. Seriously, I hope nobody considers the definition of a 'pledge' to be somehow sidestepping the law concerning quid pro quo. They literally adhere to everything as though it's a sale of goods, and they aren't creating new law by going 'huhuh, technically we aren't 'selling' anything', because smarter people have attempted this before. So again, handing over money in the expectation of receiving something is _actual law_, it's just that they've met complaints so far by removing the trading relationship between the two entities ('a refund') and nullifying any complaint up front. Beet Wagon posted:Aside from this sounding like Grade A Baghdad Bob-ing, they've got this wrong. They've only ever offered a 14 day no questions asked (but actually we will totally ask you a bunch of questions and basically beg you to stay) policy. It's a calculation as to whether they can keep your cash or not; the changes at the CFFB actually make it slightly easier for them to keep the cash, but they have to hit some minimum legal requirements like 'showing good faith' vs 'simply running off with the cash'. I hope someone's keeping track of Derek's standpoints. He's generating quite the wind from the spin.
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SomethingJones posted:You are making a PLEDGE Welcome to Open Development! Give is our money and go gently caress yourself.
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Feb 13, 2018 15:42
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big nipples big life posted:Maybe one day people will learn to stop throwing money at unproven devs with wildly ambitious game pitches. I remember when we just threw money at publishers that had unproven devs in wildly ambitious game pitches that had been marketed at us. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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Feb 13, 2018 15:42
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This is amazing.
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Feb 13, 2018 15:47
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I just found this. http://www.cgwmuseum.org/galleries/issues/cgw_149.pdf Page 34.
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Feb 13, 2018 15:47
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It's nice to know Roberts backed the game.
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Feb 13, 2018 16:01
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C-Bangin' it 
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Looks like a janky, glitchy Mount And Blade. So basically just Mount And Blade? How many guys can you have fighting at once. That's the real kicker for fantasy sword fighters, I want to be part of the Battle of Agincourt, not go 1-v-1 throughout the world.
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Feb 13, 2018 16:01
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lmao the game over screen appeared before he even got hit
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Feb 13, 2018 16:03
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Renegret posted:lmao the game over screen appeared before he even got hit The only way to win is not to play.
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Black Pants posted:I just found this. Nice find.  quote:Smart did not refer to his online comments of last year at this that all that was keeping the game from shipping was "the manual". Derek is Chris. Chris is Derek. To be fair to Derek, that might have been true. I can totally see him having to spend a year working on the manual. At least 20 pages will be about how to open the main menu.
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quote:The good news is: the team at Warhorse isn’t just an incredible talented group of people… they’re also kindred spirits who are willing to share the work they’ve done! We will be sharing with them the tricks for working with CryEngine we’ve learned over the last 18 months and they will be letting us in on the secrets and the tech behind what they’re doing! Ok Roberts, whatever you say.
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Feb 13, 2018 16:06
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Now you see the real power of the cryengine.
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Feb 13, 2018 16:07
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Not dead, just resting. And gently decomposing.
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Feb 13, 2018 16:12
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alphabettitouretti posted:Nice find. They are like two peas in a pod.
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Not dead, just resting. And gently decomposing. 
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Feb 13, 2018 16:16
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D_Smart posted:Remember how I have always maintained that Star Citizen ToS will NEVER withstand ANY legal challenge ANYWHERE on Earth? Especially in the EU? Uh huh, and? Go on . . .
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Feb 13, 2018 16:18
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http://i.imgur.com/mmW3CM8.gifv
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Feb 13, 2018 16:19
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alphabettitouretti posted:Nice find. I mean, how hard is it to wait two weeks?
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Feb 13, 2018 16:23
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In this thread we tend to call it a fortnight.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Fellow kick-started CryEngine game Kingdom Come: Deliverance was released today. It's not as good as backers expected, and it's causing some hilarity as people deal with the reality. It just proves once again that CryEngine is impossible to develop for and not get crazy jank even with a competent non-Croberts led team and a limited FPS game scope. In KCD's defense, at kickstarter it was only like $25 so no one dropped thousands on it like on SC. They didn't sell any land, houses, or horse jpegs, and don't have any day-1 DLC sales, lootboxes, or any such nonsense so at least they deserve support as an indie dev trying new stuff. They also built the game on something like $1.5 million which should have been the maximum that Croberts should have gotten for this shitshow.
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