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I'm okay with that basically improving the links all around. Yukari got better, Fuuka got better, all the boys are a breath of fresh air compared to, well, Gourmet King and Kenji. They kept a few of them around like Hidetoshi, but at least they cut out a lot of the chaff. P3P was basically the SL developers learning a lot from the mistakes of the first game. It's still a bit bizarre that most of the great points of having a female lead didn't translate to future games (see: Operation Babe Hunt and Miss Yasogami). But at least most of the SLs in future games were generally better than original P3.
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I guess you could argue that making Shinjiro's scenes something you have to go out of your way and look for makes a certain amount of sense for the kind of person Shinjiro is. It's just, male MC should probably have been able to see it too.
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Shinjiro, buddy, take care of that cough. You're about two steps away from having fatal anime heroine disease.
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Fuuka always bugs the poo poo out of me because if you can perform delicate electronics work, then you can follow basic directions in a recipe. They're directly comparable skills! If you can solder and follow circuit diagrams and handle a multimeter then it's ludicrous that you can confuse a teaspoon for a ladle. What, the alternative is that you goddamn starve to death because you can't make a staple food without ruining it?
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Yeah, I meant to comment on it, but if you can't tell the different between a tablespoon and a ladle, there's a bigger problem than "Does not know how to cook".
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kw0134 posted:Fuuka always bugs the poo poo out of me because if you can perform delicate electronics work, then you can follow basic directions in a recipe. They're directly comparable skills! If you can solder and follow circuit diagrams and handle a multimeter then it's ludicrous that you can confuse a teaspoon for a ladle. What, the alternative is that you goddamn starve to death because you can't make a staple food without ruining it? Forget it Jake, it's anime.
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Shinjiro reminds me of me and I'm not sure how to feel about that.
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 Alright, so, uh, where were we? Right, about halfway through September. Which I guess means more Fuuka for now.  Joy  I think I'll learn some things by watching you cook. Have you decided what you're going to make today?As before, it really doesn't matter so...  You even washed the utensils while you were cooking. It's like you have extra hands or something... Oh, I should write that down too... "Kotone-chan has a lot of hands"...> Fuuka is taking all kinds of notes in her thick notebook. > The pages are filled with small letters...  I took notes on everything you did. All the steps you took to prepare the ingredients. ...I think I'm good at observing and analyzing things. So I thought that it might work if I attempted cooking from an angle that I'm good at. Up until now, all I did was try harder. But saying that I'll try harder each time is tiring. I'm not actually putting any thought into it... That's why... I've stopped thinking of attacking everything with that mindset... That's honestly not a terrible idea. Took long enough! When I began to think of it that way, it felt much better and I started enjoying what I was doing. I needed to understand the situation, instead of just being overwhelmed by trying to do my best... So, I hope that by taking notes, I'll be more likely to succeed. I couldn't accept the bad parts of me this whole time. But you saw all the things that were bad about me while you were here cooking with me... And you always encouraged me even when I messed up... That's why... I thought I should also try to like myself for who I am.> Fuuka is smiling gently... > You feel like you've grown even closer to Fuuka...   Next time, I'll make something too. I'll do my best! ...Oh, umm... I'll do what I can, and try my best later!> You cleaned up the room together and headed back to the dorm...  For better or worse, tonight is another night we're spending with Ken. In a lot of ways, the quicker we rip off this particular bandage the better. After School > But, he doesn't seem to be eating much.  What's wrong? Oh, nothing...> Ken begins eating hurriedly...  ...Urp. ..... I had some snacks a little while ago... ..... It's true. I-I see. Then, I'll eat all of this too... > Could something have happened to him...? What's the matter? ...It's just that... Um... I noticed how small I am...It's because you're a kid, kid. > Ken seems a little embarrassed... Um... It'd be nice if I could be like Akihiko-san... Um... Kotone-san... Y-You'd prefer someone like Akihiko-san too, right...? Nope, not at all. Oh, r-really? ...I think he's cool. ..... I... want to hurry and become an adult.> Ken has a serious look on his face... > There must be something on Ken's mind... > You feel like you understand Ken a little better now...   If you get any bigger... ...I won't be able to catch up to you.> ..... > Ken continues wolfing down his rice... > You finished your dinner with Ken and returned to the dorm together.  So, anyway, after the typhoon comes, brings Persona Q with it and that's dealt with off-screen (a place where it belongs), we'll go play with Koromaru. Haven't done that in a while! After School > Koromaru seems to be in a good mood... > As you're getting ready to take him out for a walk, Fuuka came by.   Huh? You didn't eat all of it... But it's good meat, with the bone still in. Did you cook it? Hey, that's mean! Hmph, as if my food's so bad he won't eat it all. I bought his dinner today, but... Koro-chan, are you not going to eat this? .....> Koromaru took the meat into his mouth. > ...But he isn't eating it. > Koromaru headed towards the door... > ...In any case, you decide to take him out for a walk.  Not going to eat it? .....> Koromaru is quiet... > ...You realize that if he barks, the meat would fall out of his mouth. > In any case, you headed towards the shrine...  > Koromaru is twitching his nose...  > You hear a dog's faint cry from somewhere... > Koromaru is looking around and walking towards the sound...  ...awww  Arf. > The puppy is biting into the meat... .....> Koromaru is watching the puppy intently... How long has it been here? .....> Koromaru is looking up at you with his big eyes... > ...In any case, you can't leave this puppy be.  > .....? > Upon closer inspection, there's a thin collar around the puppy's neck...  > You should consult Officer Kurosawa about this...    No... There haven't been any reported. Do you take on jobs like that too? Heh... No matter how much manpower you have, it won't be enough... ...All right. Might as well give you some direct help for once. Wait right here.> Officer Kurosawa began calling places, one after another... Yes, that is correct... ...I see, thank you very much. ..... My name is Kurosawa at the Tatsumi East Police Box...> He seems to be calling the local pet hsops and animal hospitals... That's correct, a black puppy... Breed? I have no idea... Huh? There is? Their puppy is missing... Yes. Koyama-san... I see, the house on the corner of 2nd street. I'll ask them. Thanks very much.> Officer Kurosawa ended the call in a rather good mood...  > Officer Kurosawa picked up the phone again... ...Hello, is this the Koyama residence? My name is... > It seems he's found the puppy's owner. We've found them. I'll take the puppy from here. It's dark out, so you should head on back. > Officer Kurosawa patted Koromaru on the head... Arf.> Koromaru seems happy...  > Koromaru is wagging his tail happily... Glad we found his owner. Woof! Woof...> Koromaru is nuzzling you with his nose... > You feel like Koromaru is thanking you...   > Led by Koromaru, you decide to go back to the dorm. ...Okay, fine, the Koromaru link is a very strong second place contender for best link in the game. Might even edge out first place for some folks and I can't really say they're wrong. Shame that, even here in Portable, Makoto gets to put up with Yuko's blandness instead of Koromaru.  Speaking of Koromaru, we'll spend a bit more time with him right now.  Not because its a rank up though. Gotta spend another night before we can think of that, but... hey a free Balm of Life is pretty dang good. After School So, next is a plot scene. I know, I'm surprised too! Since the typhoon prevented the festival stuff from happening, we need to deal with cleaning up an event that never happened...  Alrighty. Let's do this quick. Geez, you're so serious all the time. We're allowed to take this easy, y'know?> You began cleaning up with everyone.   ...Oh, isn't this from the summer fellowship? Look, here's Kotone. You guys went to a school in the countryside, right? It was a nice place. Lucky! They had a hot spring too, didn't they? I wanted to go in one too. We'll be going to one soon enough.   Eh, it's where everyone goes. I really wish they wouldn't make us go to all the shrines and stuff. > Kenji and Kazushi have arrived... > They seem to have brought cleaning supplies with them...  So, Yukari-san. Why don't I show you around Kyoto when we go? How did we jump onto that subject...? Anyways, did you find a nail puller? Yeah, Kazushi brought all of them. You've got a bunch to choose from. We just needed one or two... Aren't the guys in the other classes going to need them too? Oh, y-you're right... I'll go return the rest! Uh, well... I don't think you need to go right away. Just if someone asks. I-I see... Then I'll leave them here! You know... When you're with girls... Well, more like when you're with Yukari-san... Wh-What? ...That reminds me. Junpei, you were in charge of the popping stuff. Did you bring some? Popping stuff...?Parts of this scene are identical to before, but they're still pretty quick all things considered. Ohhh! The bubble wrap. Uh... Good call, Kenji. Go get it. You know where they keep all this stuff right? Well, yeah, but... I just got back from there. You go get it. You're the one who forgot in the first place. Huh? Are you sure? You really don't wanna go? That place is like a paradise, you know that? Some fine chicas there who'd be just your type... W-Wait, are you serious!? Be right back, guys! ...Yeah, like I'd fall for that, dumbass. What kind of supply room is stocked with hot babes?  She's like a pissed-off samurai... I heard that! Geez... Are you stupid or something? More like Stupei, I think. D-Deja vu...! *sigh* Fine... I'll go to the supply room later... But man... it's a real shame the school festival fell through. "Hilarious." They said it would be open to everyone, so I was planning on jumping in. Huh? You, cross-dressing!? Oh hell no... ..... Nah, no way... You were just imagining it just now, huh? I must've been super cute. Well, I'd be a lot better at it than you. You'd just look creepy. ...I don't think you needed to go that far. I mean, hey, I'd be cuter than Kaz here, right? Me? Why would I... You hear that, Kaz? He just said you'd lose. Are you gonna take that from him? Wha...!? There's no doubt that I'd be the cutest! I'd be the cutest one in school! Well... at least Aigis gets more lines in this version.  Well, duh. You're... I am a female type, so female clothes would be... Okay, okay! Let's just stop there! Kotone-san, what do you think? Whose cross-dressing would be the most "super-cute"? MINE! Well, there's no question that she would be "super cute." I dunno how you can say stuff like that so easily... Alright, you better move outta the way. You guys are holding everything up. S-Sorry. What're you trying to say? Uh, nothing... He is saying that your personality is not cute. Yeah, I got that. ...Ai-chan, you gotta know when to speak up and when to stay quiet. If you don't learn, Yuka-tan's gonna give you the evil eye... K-Kaz! Say something! Y-You gotta use your guts! For what!? Th-That reminds me. It's a shame you never got to wear that maid costume, Yukari-san. Huh!? Ughhh... So word got out about that. I'm relieved it never happened... But I bet lotsa guys were really disappointed... right, Kazushi? Huh? R-Really? A pure soul...! Oh, it's something that... guys like Junpei dream about. Junpei... W-Wait a sec, what's that look for? You act like I did something! Junpei-san... You gotta be kidding! You too, Aigis!?> You finished cleaning up while chatting with everyone... And that's where it just ends here. How nice, I guess.  ...But I think that's enough nice things for now. Hey Saori, are you gonna finally get around to having real content? Joy > An announcement is being made...  Announcement: Saori Hasegawa of class 2-C... Kotone Shiomi of class 2-F... Please report to the faculty office at once. I repeat...  ...They're calling for us? Well, let's go. Yeah, let's see what's up. Silence Hey look, Ekoda does still have a job here. Somehow. And he's still a gigantic dickhead. The more things change... > Mr. Ekoda slams a magazine on the desk... > A large heading reads:  Crisis Huh...? This is your picture, isn't it!?> There is a photo with that article.  > The name has been changed to "Shiori Nagatani" I'm not even going into the filth in this article. Some brainless journalist must have talked to you.> You quickly skim through the article that Mr. Ekoda threw on the desk...  I... never... Another student from this school brought this to my attention, saying "my school's reputation is ruined!" She also made a report on you: "...and she never interacts with us because she thinks she's superior to the rest of the students."Oh, so she IS a high schooler! ..... In other words, your reputation is terrible. I'm not surprised you'd stoop to doing something like this. This affects not only you, but your guardians and the people around you as well. ...Anyway, it's been decided that you're going to be suspended. Do you understand? I... You've got this all wrong! why the gently caress am i even here then You think you can change that? Hm? We have to make an example for the other students and their parents. There must be punishment. Your parents told us to be careful about you... Now I see why. ...You have such wonderful parents, Hasegawa. Why are you doing this to them? .....> You both left the Faculty Office and decided to go home for today... Joy If you stay near me, you're going to lose any reputation you had. Don't worry about it. ..... Thank you... That article's a lie... I didn't say anything... ...But I did let a photographer take a picture of me. He wanted a shot with me in my uniform... Look what 4000 yen got me into... Didn't you suspect this? No... It didn't even cross my mind at all... A girl in my class asked if I'd be willing to do an easy job... I didn't really want to do it, but I didn't care... ...Maybe I just wanted to help her out. Maybe... I just wanted a friend.> Saori laughs... I really am older than everyone now... When I was younger, everyone said that I was more mature than the kids around me and wouldn't have young friends... But adults were kind and treated me well... ..... But everything... was a lie. > Saori smiles, but appears to be on the brink of tears... I acted just how the adults around me wanted me to act... All I had to do was smile and stay quiet. As long as I did that, they'd call me cute and be happy with me. It's too late now... I don't know how to stand on my own anymore. I'm too scared... I'm with you. Kotone-chan...> Saori's lips tremble... > You feel like you understand a little about what Saori is going through...   I... I know I shouldn't be feeling this way, but part of me is happy and thankful that you were with me... I probably... wouldn't be able to endure this myself...> You made sure Saori got home safely before heading back to the dorm... Well, at least something is finally happening in Saori's link. Probably. Took long enough.  ...So how about that Ken? I hear he's available today and Shinji isn't. Warm Feeling > But, he doesn't seem to have much of an appetite today. What's the matter? ......> Ken seems depressed... I'm sorry... Um... I always make you listen to me talk... It's not good, huh... Actually, I want to hear more. But it's no fun to listen to a little kid like me... Why... are you so... Um... Kotone-san... I'm going to be serious here, so please listen to what I have to say... Remember the manga I talked about before...? The one with the alien hero who fights bad guys...? ..... ...Hey, if you didn't want 'em I totally would've taken the lot! I'll buy you a different series. No, it's okay. ...Thank you, though. Fighting isn't a good thing... But, I enjoyed reading it... Don't worry about it. But... Reading it got me all excited... It was really cool when tons of bad guys were dying, too... ..... What's not good is the inability to differentiate reality from fiction. Maybe we should do something about that. > Ken looks like he's about to cry... I hate that I feel that way... You're okay the way you are. It's okay... ..... Why do you say things like that? I'm... trying so hard. I... Let's, uh, let's try to not make this weird. ...Oh...> You feel that you understand Ken a little better now.   ... Does your food taste good, Kotone-san? I was getting worried that yours might taste bad too, if you're with me... That's not true. I-I see. I'm glad to hear that. ...You're so nice, Kotone-san.  I'd... like to have dinner with you again. ..... I mean it.> You and Ken finished your dinner and returned to the dorm together. ...Whew boy, September is very long even in this timeline, huh? Gonna need one last push, but first I need a break because dealing with this much Ken and also some of Saori is kinda tiring...
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Please tell me that this game doesn't have the option to romance Ken. 
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Please tell me that this game doesn't have the option to romance Ken. You sweet summer child. Good news: it's an option.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Please tell me that this game doesn't have the option to romance Ken. Hahahahahahahaha 
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It's a shame because it's basically the one thing stopping the female SLs from being a slam dunk victory over the male ones. I mean they still win, it's just a wrinkle.
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Feb 9, 2018 02:44
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It's normal for a kid to be attracted to older people. It's very much not normal for this to be reciprocated.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Please tell me that this game doesn't have the option to romance Ken. Dragonatrix posted:
Do you really need to ask?
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You should have been able to s. link with the cop friend, his scene with koromaru was nice. or maybe not, they'd probably have you romance him
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rannum posted:You should have been able to s. link with the cop friend, his scene with koromaru was nice. No lie, I'd pay for a spin off buddy cop thing featuring Officer Kurosawa here and Dojima.
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Oh game...why...why did you have to pull this with FeMC? Why? By the by, I don't remember if we've gone down the discussion topic (and quickly move away from what's happening with Ken), have we discussed what happens if you completely and utterly gently caress up an S-Link so hard it has more gameplay consequences outside of wasted time you quite literally can't afford?
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rannum posted:You should have been able to s. link with the cop friend, his scene with koromaru was nice. Koromaru's link is so good that even completely unrelated characters get to be cool in it.
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Kemix posted:have we discussed what happens if you completely and utterly gently caress up an S-Link so hard it has more gameplay consequences outside of wasted time you quite literally can't afford? Back when Chihiro got all "I sure want to spend time with you and only you!", Dragonatrix showed how you could reverse a Social Link.
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Reversing was easy enough to do, yeah, but I'm probably not gonna Break one though. Extra hoops to jump through and all, so it's not really worth it.
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Did breaking it do anything? I remember when my friend tried doing it in FES NG+ and it did actually nothing relevant.
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 So, there was no Shinji last time and I realise and apologise for that. This time, we'll start with Shinji instead! You're pre-emptively welcome. Warm Feeling  ...It's just, I feel uncomfortable... Did something happen? It's nothing like that, but...> Shinjiro seems hesitant to explain himself... > In any case, you decide to go outside with him.  Sorry. ...Those guys keep yapping at me. Yapping at you? ..... You remember how I cooked for them the other day? They keep going on and on about how delicious it was and how I should do it again... And whenever I walk past the kitchen, they all stare at me like they're just waiting for me to do something...> Shinjiro shrugs... I have my hopes up, too. Hey, don't look at me like that. Haha... Well... I'm glad they liked it. Do you think it's funny that I did that? You think it isn't like me? I mean, there's nothing wrong with having good memories to grow up with. Obviously this is Ken and someone else. It being Shinji, he almost certainly means Akihiko all things considered. Could easily be Junpei though. ..... How about you? Did you have fun too? Definitely! Haha, good to hear.  Making memories is important. People can go on as long as they have good things to look back on... They'll be able to go on without being led astray...> Shinjiro mutters quietly... You know, you... ..... You shouldn't be with me like this... Don't you... have more fun things to do? It's fun being with you. Well... all right, then. > You can feel Shinjiro's thoughtfulness towards you, clumsy as it may be... > You feel like your bond with Shinjiro has grown stronger...   ...You want some ice cream from the convenience store? My treat.> You and Shinjiro walked around before heading back to the dorm... Obviously, not every scene of Shinji's can be as long and involved with other folks as the previous one. It's nice that it seems to be the only S.Link with consistent continuity, though.  ...Anyway, let's see what Fuuka's managed to do this time. Joy It'll be really delicious, so look forward to it! What are you going to make today, Kotone-chan?Still doesn't matter.  I just finished up now, too. *giggle* I got done pretty fast. Look, look.> Rows of triangular rice balls are lined up on the plate that Fuuka handed to you. > The rice looks moist and delicious... This one has pickled plum, this one's salmon, and this one's seaweed... Try whichever one you like.> You picked one and ate it.  This is really delicious. *giggle* Right? There are 22 conditions that must be met for making a good rice ball. I've met all those conditions, so there's no possible way that it wouldn't be delicious.Not entirely sure that's quite how that works, but sure. Okay, whatever. At least it's not the same thing ad infinitum.  I don't think I was making enough of an effort before. No, that's not it. I just wasn't putting in enough effort in the correct way. I just thought about trying harder. If you can't do something that others can, then that's the effort you need to reach their level... It seems so obvious now, but I didn't understand it at all... All I did was envy your skills. I'll mever again think that my goals are doomed from the start. Thanks, Kotone-chan.> Fuuka let out a relieved laugh... > You feel like you've grown even closer to Fuuka...   This one's tuna, that one's natto, and this one's mentaiko. And on top of that... I even have a supreme one where I mixed in all the ingredients! Eat up!> You ate as much as you could before heading back to the dorm. Amazingly, we're almost done with Fuuka again. At last. Probably won't get it wrapped up this month, but almost certainly will come October. ...Should've prioritised better, really, to get it done earlier but whatever.  More importantly is that we've got even more Shinji right now.  Living With Determination  > You went for a walk with Shinjiro, and ended up here...  ..... That reminds me, I met you here, too... Back then, I never imagined that I'd go back there... I'm glad that you came back. ...I doubt that I'm bringing that much to the team, though.Well, you're only arguably the best physical attacker. Y'know, nothing major.   .....> Shinjiro turns towards the wall and looks down... > He seems less confident in himself than usual... You're... a pain. You keep messing things up for me... I keep thinking that my life is the way it's supposed to be, but... > You don't understand why Shinjiro sighs... > Still, you feel like you're getting closer to Shinjiro's inner feelings...   We actually have a place we can go back to.> You and Shinjiro returned to the dorm... So, uh, yeah... Shinji's kinda changing tone a little here, huh? Odd that.  Anyway, we don't have much else of note for a few days so we'll take Koromaru on a walk as a distraction. This is the same as it was before, though, so...  Next up is more Shinji, of course. This is important. Living With Determination ..... Why don't we stay here? Sit over there. ..... Let's talk about something fun... Yeah, that'd be best... > You talked to Shinjiro about many different subjects... > Shinjiro's expression doesn't change much, as usual... > However, for some reason... > ...He seems lonesome. Are you done? C'mon, tell me more. Encore, encore!> Shinjiro laughs... > At Shinjiro's urging, you continued talking... > You told him about school, your friends, the clubs you're in, what you've seen on TV... > Shinjiro just listens to your aimless conversation...  You look best when you laugh. ..... So don't cry, got it...? What're you trying to say? ...Just what I said.> Shinjiro looks downwards...   No doubts, no regrets... ..... Leave behind? ..... What to want and to not want... I'm... selfish, aren't I? That's not true. ..... ...Hey. As long as I'm already being selfish, I want you to do one more thing for me. All right. You don't have to forgive me... Don't have to forgive...? ...You'll understand later. It should be like this for a little longer... I just want it to be... normal...> Shinjiro smiles while looking down at his hands. > You don't really understand what Shinjiro meant... > Still, you feel like he told you something important...   ...Ugh, I forgot that I don't have my watch. Did you lose it? Yeah, I lost it somewhere. ...drat it.> Shinjiro sighs... > It seems that his watch meant something important to him...  This is very important. Very, very important. So? You have any more? I want to hear what you've got to say. You've got more stories up your sleeve, right? ...Anything's fine.> You talked with Shinjiro about all kinds of things, late into the night... We'll, uh... So, we want to get that watch as soon as possible. Paulownia Mall So, to that end, we'll go straight to the police station to talk to Kurosawa. An old pocket watch...? ...Haha, today has to be your lucky day, then. Is this it? If you'd come any later, I would've sold it to somebody else. ...I'm joking.Alright, that done, we'll just go do something else now. We'll see what this is for in a bit.  ...But first, uh, Saori. Sure. Joy > There are students using the library, but few of them line up at Saori's section of the counter...  > Saori hangs her head low... Don't let it get to you. Kotone-chan... ...You shouldn't be talking to me. If someone sees you... ...I don't want to get you involved. It's a little too late now! ...Haha, I see.  Um... I might be transferred to another school.oh no what a tragedy When!? Once the paperwork is done... ...They're going to send me to a private school far away. That's.. fine with me, but... I don't really like that I'm going to be separated from you...> Saori smiles sadly... > You sense a bond between you and Saori...   Still, I don't really have much luggage to take along. Whenever I came back from overseas, my room would be empty... Just like it is now. I... don't need anything.> You said goodbye to Saori, then returned to the dorm. tartarus_0d04 So, hey, Tartarus. We've got a few folks to rescue real quick like. Here's the first on floor 120 and it's... Bunkichi! So, yeah, if you don't have Hierophant maxed by now, you absolutely need to do this otherwise it becomes impossible to finish. Obviously.  Next lass is up on the 131st floor. Not much else to this one.  And then the next and last is up on the 137th which isn't even much of a trek. We'll help this lad out and move on.  Just gotta grab our rewards here from Kurosawa. Nothing too major, all things considered. Homunculi are nice, since they affect the whole party here. In Vanilla/FES they just help Makoto. Slash Repeller is just Evade Slash in accessory form. Triple dodge rate sounds nice, but Slash attacks are very rare so... pass.  Real quick, rank 8 for Hidetoshi is mostly the same but it has a very minor divergence. Namely that we still get accused for smoking in the boy's room by the teacher. Which is dumb and makes them seem even more unexpectedly bad at their job than Ekoda, so Hidetoshi calls 'em out on it instead. Iwatodai Dorm Anyway, let's talk to Shinji. ......> Does the Old Pocketwatch you found at the police station belong to him...? Well, we do need it to be able to advance Shinji's link, so... That's...! ...Hey... Come with me, okay? Okay. Oh... Thanks.  Shinjiro Aragaki: The Moon highly recommended you just watch this instead Living With Determination > You told him that it had been taken to the police station and that you claimed it. I see...> Shinjiro toys with the pocketwatch... I thought I'd be fine if I never saw this again... But I never imagined that you of all people would bring it to me.> Shinjiro looks serious... This isn't really to pay you back, but I want you to have this. I was hesitating about if I should give it to you or not. I thought it'd look good on you... Thank you very much. Yeah... > Shinjiro looks down at his feet for a long time... ...Look after Aki. ...You know he's an idiot. You remember the story about the first fight we ever had? It was because... I stole a doll from a toy store. Aki found out about it and beat the crap outta me... and he was crying the whole time. Afterwards, we both went back to the store to return it... and to apologize for what I did. The toy store's owner smacked us both. ...He hasn't changed at all from back then. He's stupid, honest, proud, kind... and a crybaby. ...That's why someone needs to be by his side. We'll be by his side. Yeah... I'll be counting on all of you. I ain't worried at all, because I know you're with him. I'm leaving the rest to you.> Shinjiro looks kindly at you... > You sense a strong sense of trust from Shinjiro...  The Path is Open  So, this is the first time we've managed to start and finish an S.Link within 1 month. It's not gonna be the last, though... Living With Determination Sandalphon's level 74 and kinda mediocre, to be honest. Desn't have much to offer, overall, but not particularly weak so it's easy to make one that doesn't suck. Notably, he gains his last skill at level 83 which is absurd as gently caress and will probably never happen.  I kinda want to stay here a little longer if we can, but... aren't you cold? Hey, you're gonna catch something. C'mere...> You and Shinjiro talk about various things late into the night... Lotus Aura fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Feb 12, 2018 |
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I'm really glad we blitzed the link with Shinjiro. I feel like we're gonna be very close, and once this is all over, should really take a trip with him. He seems to need someone to help think about his future with. Man was it a kick when we got to that specific event the first time I did this 
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Shinjiro's social link is a nice counterpoint to Akihiko's scenes trying to get him back into SEES earlier in the game. Shinjiro actually does care about Akihiko a lot, but just isn't very happy to talk about it.
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Maaaaan. I feel his scenes should have been a required thing, make him an automatic link that levels up as the story progresses until you need to find his pocket watch. Yes, you lose out on like 10 days or make them as an extra after the end of a day, but really, these scenes would have worked better as a story progression S-link ala SEES, The Investigation Team or The Phantom Thieves.
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 So, it's that time of the month again. Early October brings with it our next full moon...  We'll just be hanging around for the day. Like always.  At least until the Dark Hour comes along... The Voice Someone Calls It's in the plaza in front of Iwatodai Station! This will be the 10th... Only a few left, but let's worry about them one at a time. ...Assuming they come one at a time. *giggle* Just kidding. Are you serious!? Me and my big mouth... ...Where's Shinji? I didn't ask any questions. ...Figures. He's always played by his own rules. It's okay. At least he's coming, right? Yeah. Not like someone I know who missed last time. Hello? I was tied up, remember!? Sheesh, give a guy a break.Don't worry, Junpei. You'll get a bit of a break alright...  Hey Junpei, go get him. That'll be your punishment for last time. Punishment...? What is this, kindergarten? *sigh* That little poo poo is more trouble than he's worth. It's a small thing, but I do like how when Junpei leaves, Koromaru turns to watch him.  All right, let's move out. This time, there are two enemies. We'll determine our formation once we arrive. This is the way we go to school! We've gotta protect this place... It seems like they've been waiting for us. ...Where's Amada? ...Seems like something that would've been nice to mention before we got here. Just sayin'. Dammit, Shinji... Where are you? Um, I think we should hurry... They look like they're about to make their move. Alright, let's decide on a team and engage the enemy! M'kay, so this is who we're going with this time around. Junpei's being fielded as penance for being a dumbass last month; Mitsuru's hopefully gonna be efficient with those Amped Bufulas, though that might not be the best thing right now; Koromaru's Koromaru. Ain't no one got any complaints with that.  Makoto's using an Agni Bracer (Fire Amp), Junpei's got the Berserker's Seal which should be very useful here, Mitsuru's still got that Varna Bracer and Koromaru's got a Giga Magic Band (+3 Magic) since that helps him not be super far behind. In the Shadow of a Fortunate Moon That Which Comes From The Darkness After searching, the Fool begins to see the connections between things. He begins to see the intricate patterns and cycles throughout the world. He finds the Wheel of Fortune, which makes parts of the world work together.  X. Arcana Fortune; XI. Arcana Strength (Portable) Master of Shadow From these patterns and connections, the Fool sees the causes of suffering and disillusion. He is hard-pressed to find the courage and resolve to keep going despite setbacks. He must use his Strength to protect others.   You can't attack it right now... Concentrate on the one whose Arcana is Strength! Arcana Strength, you say? As the Reversed Strength arcana, the Shadow is representative of the focussed protection of a single individual rather than assisting others in general. By making the Arcana Fortune completely invincible in this stage of the fight, this is made incredibly, bluntly, apparent.  So, because its Strength, let's just pop this Attack Mirror that I have too many of. For, well, obvious reasons.  The Arcana Strength is an... incredibly boring Shadow, honestly. It has 29 Strength, 29 Magic (which is actively irrelevant), 29 Agility, 29 Endurance and 29 Luck. It's an SMTIV demon through and through.  She's needlessly tanky, though, since she has 4000HP. This fight is long, but it sure isn't hard. There's MANY ways I could make this quicker, sure, but I'd rather do it "fairly" at least once. So, no Mind Change, no taking advantage of this fight's crippling weakness (...except in Portable)...  Doesn't even have any elemental resistances or strengths. You'd think at least some kind of Phys reduction, but nope. Doesn't even have a Counter skill!  She does have some potent Phys attacks anyway, mind you. Tempest Slash is 1-2 hits on a single target, with a base power of 350 and a 10% crit ate. It's the 4th strongest Slash skill. ...So, whoops, it just means that Strength hits herself for ~200 damage a pop in this case.  Gigantic Fist is a bit of an old classic at this point. Tetrakarn/Attack Mirrors are nice here in that they stick around on someone until it gets triggered, so good job hitting yourself again, Strength.  Heat Wave is Strength's only multi-target attack. It's just straight up one hit on everyone, for pretty decent Strike damage. It has a base power of 280 and a 10% crit rate.  Sometimes, and I do mean sometimes, Strength likes to pull out an Eerie Sound or Sexy Dance. That's all she can do for non-Phys stuff, and Eerie Sound is more beneficial for her since it's MT Distress and all.  Speaking of Crits, Strength CAN be critted (hurray!) but it doesn't help. Like Chariot/Justice's United form, she's immune to Knock Down.  While all this is happening, the Arcana Fortune is just sat off to the side being a big ol' gimmick.  As the Reversed Fortune arcana, the Arcana Fortune is focused on getting things done quickly and damning the consequences. It's incredibly straight forward and its gimmick is hella simple:  It summons a roulette wheel. There's a few different types that can be dropped in, and they're all both a hindrance and a help. There's 4 possible results, with two outcomes each. This one is Mataru/Maraku stuff; if it lands on Blue it helps you. If it lands on red, it helps the Shadows.  ...There's no luck involved in this, by the way. You can get the result you want basically everytime, guaranteed.  Red is bad luck... I hope it doesn't come up. The second type of wheel is incredibly simple. Three of these are direct damage, two of these are healing.  It's really not a lot of damage either way, so I just don't care about this one. We can heal this easily. For what its worth, the damage is 50/100/200 and the healing is always 100.  Having Mediarama is Titania's sole contribution here in the interest of fairness.  ...So, the third wheel is fight breakingly good. It can inflict Distress, Panic, Fear or Rage. One of these is "you win", one of these is "you win a little bit slower," one of these is okay and Distress sure is here.  Because I'm being kind right now, I'll just get Panic everytime until Strength dies.  Which, at this point, doesn't take long at all.  And that means we're on stage 2 of the fight!  In this part of the fight, Fortune does do some other stuff which we'll get to in a bit.  It opted to use the ailment wheel first though. To highlight how much of a non-threat this fight is, I threw it on Enraged. We've briefly used this once before: the enemy gets to attack twice and deals more damage...  But in return, it, uh, takes more damage. This is without any (de)buffs or Mind Charge. I'm still holding back here, Fortune.  Which, uh, I have to. Fortune ALSO has 29 in every stat and no resistances/weaknesses. The only meaningful difference stat-wise between it and Strength is that Fortune has 3000HP.  Y'know, I wasn't expecting this but I sure can't complain. ...So, let's pretend I'm more merciful for a second here. Let's let Fortune get turns.  It takes it a loving age and a half to do anything other than Wheel of Fortune, mind. I spent about 20 minutes fighting it before giving up and it used Garudyne twice in that time.  Which, uh, isn't really all that impressive all things considered. This only just barely dropped Junpei... on a weakness... when he had low HP from just mashing through Wheels.  Fortune also used Torrent Shot once. And that's it. It CAN use Magarudyne, and I think something else, but they don't happen often so whatever.  During that time, Fortune's health slowly just got whittled down from low-effort attacks every now and then. As it loses HP, the wheel implicitly gets more and more rigged in its favour.  ...Notably, though, this actually doesn't matter and you can still guarantee whatever result you want. Now let's pretend we just want to win.  So, I said I can guarantee whatever result I want. And I can. And you can. It's really simple. Look at the wheel here; it's broken into sections, right? Opt to stop the wheel at the opposite side of wherever you want it to land. So, Panic-Red gets Fear-Blue; Distress-Red gets Panic-Blue etc. etc. There is a bit of a timing trick to this, still, wherein if you hit it too early it won't work. So, it's best to aim for the halfway mark of the red section. This STILL works when the quadrants get messed with in the second half of the fight. You just can't see the spots plainly delineated but (I think) it's easy to draw the lines mentally.  So, Fear is the best result across all wheels by far. It is "you win the fight" levels of good. The wheel notably ignores any resistances and inflicts the ailment. It cannot fail, provided there isn't outright immunity and also another ailment in the way.  Let's meet Ghastly Wail. This is a special skill that we can get from Samael (the Death Arcana persona below Mot) when he gets to level 43. That's the earliest opportunity for you to have it.  A thing is inflicted with Fear? It dies, no save. This works on everything so long as Fear can land. ...This is also what the Sleeping Table tries to do you, by the way.  And as an added bonus, yeah, it works on Fortune too. Notably, Fortune only cheats and modifies sizes/available results for the direct damage/heal wheel. So, uh, good job there Fortune. In the Shadow of Misfortune even if you skipped over it before now, i ten billion percent recommend watching the video from this point onwards The Voice Someone Calls *sigh* Man, talk about exhausting. This time, those two who call themselves Strega did not interfere. It must be because we have Chidori. Anyway, I'm glad everything went well. ...... The Chairman doesn't seem to be too concerned, so he went home. Yamagishi, where are those two? I'm sorry, I haven't been able to locate them yet. Let's return to the dorm, and then go from there. ...... ...Akihiko, are you listening? Just go back without me. I'm gonna go look for them for a while. ...What's wrong? Akihiko...?Meanwhile, elsewhere... Silence ...... I'm surprised you abandoned the operation. ...Do you know why I asked you to meet me here? Two years ago today... October 4th.  They called it an accident... but it wasn't. I saw the whole thing... Living With Determination ...... ...Since then, it's been one bad thing after another... And all I get from people is sympathy, no matter where I go. What's the point in living...?  ...That's why I decided that I had to find her killer--YOU! You said once that you wanted to forget what happened on that day... So, when I found out it was a full moon today, I knew I had to confront you. ...Today, Mom is watching over me. ...... ...Back at the dorm... The Voice Someone Calls To be fair, we DID know that Ikutsuki wasn't gonna be here. Ken and Shinji, from their perspective, could be anyway so that's fair. Anyway, why was Akihiko-san acting so weird? What's so special about October 4th?  I was so caught up in the operation that I didn't realize it... This is the day Amada's mother was killed! You serious!? Yamagishi, I need you to find the two of them immediately.  I-I understand. Although her death was officially listed as an accident...  Notable that Mitsuru says "we" here, even though..  It was two years ago, when we were pursuing an unusual Shadow that had escaped into the city... We were in a residential area, but the Shadow was all we were thinking about... Unfortunately, there was a casualty: Amada's mother. No way... Are you shittin' me!? Then, to Ken-kun, Senpai is... Amada volunteered to join us. But, now that I think about it...  Maybe, I don't know, be more specific than "another Persona user"??? Akihiko? No... it's... why not just say that in the first place hell why not say WHO IT IS That's not good. Ugh... It's an absolute nightmare! Senpai!! C'mon!!Back in the alley... Silence I won't stop you. You're right... I wanted to forget. But, nothing I did could erase the memory... And now, I find myself here--the last place I want to be. ...... It's my fault... This is what I deserve. But... let me give you one warning. Warning...? Just remember that... Is that supposed to change my mind...? Even if all you have now is hatred, one day you'll regret it. That Which Comes From The Darkness   That is the nature of revenge. Is it not permissible to kill those who are themselves killers? ...You. But, we cannot simply ignore your meddling.  Do not fear. This life is but a stepping stone. Salvation shall be yours... You cannot defy fate... You shall die... whether or not it is at the hand of this boy. ...... You've been taking those pills for some time now... What's he talking about!? That's bullshit! Listen to your body... You know it to be true. What does he mean...? You're going to die...? ...No matter what I do? That's not fair!! that's not your all out attack cue, ken!! The cause of death is not of importance. Besides, the breath of life is faint in you as well, child.  ...... Since you are both destined to perish, allow me to do the honors... A slight change in timing shouldn't matter too much. Silence Agh...! N-No... Now then... With what life you have left, answer me this... There is one like Chidori among you, is there not?  Now tell me... Which one of you is it? Ugh... ah... *gasp* ...... ...What's the matter? Cat got your tongue? Th-There's... no one... Wait!  Is that true? ...Yes. That's the only reason they let me join. Ken... no...!  ...Quiet. You had your chance. It doesn't matter anymore... I'll never have my revenge. ...I have no reason to live... How enviable...  Rest peacefully... ! As soon as we enter the anime zone once again, we immmediately hear a gunshot ring out...   ...though it didn't hit Ken... Just Like This...   ...since Shinji ran in to intercept it.  What is the meaning of this? Why would you risk your life to save this child?  Shinji! How very disappointing...And just like that, Takaya runs off...  As the rest of the party convene around Shinji. It's fine, we have a lot of folks with (Me)Diarama and/or Recarm. What's with the long face... Isn't this what you wanted? *cough*  No! Senpai! It's alright...  Give yourself time, make your anger your strength... Come on, Ken, you're just a kid. You've got your whole life ahead of you, so don't waste it. Make it your own, okay? Things from Shinji's perspective begin to get blurry and unfocused...  But... I... I... Aki... Take care of him... I will... This is how it should be... Shinji manages to pull himself up to his feet... Silence And gets all of a few steps before collapsing... ... *gasp* !              Noooo!! > The loss of your comrade was certainly unexpected. > That night, no one spoke a word. > And, the next day... Lotus Aura fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Mar 15, 2018 |
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Akihiko sure took his sweet time getting there since he had a head start on the rest of the team.
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Now that this happens, I want to draw attention to the fact that Persona Q happens in the middle of September during the typhoon because they wanted to have the full playable cast available. If you play on the Persona 4 side, Kanji will get a subplot with Ken where he tries to work through his issues and come to an understanding and succeeds, making Ken realize he can't hold on to grudges and i laughed and i laughed because obviously the memories of the game are going to be erased and 2 weeks later this happens.
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Funky Valentine posted:Bench Ken forever.
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Funky Valentine posted:Bench Ken forever.
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rannum posted:Now that this happens, I want to draw attention to the fact that Persona Q happens in the middle of September during the typhoon because they wanted to have the full playable cast available. That's the sort of thing that can happen, when team members actually get to know each other. Unlike this game.  So, yeah, this is why Akihito and Mitsuru were keeping an eye on Ken for so long, but on edge about him joining the group - they knew this was a possibility (yet somehow still let it sneak up on them). Ikutsuki decided it was worth the risk. And Shinjiro joins because he expects this to happen.
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Good on Aki and Mitsuru for not notifying the rest of the team that the halfpint is a walking emotional time bomb.
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rannum posted:Now that this happens, I want to draw attention to the fact that Persona Q happens in the middle of September during the typhoon because they wanted to have the full playable cast available. Atlus seems to have a bizarre fixation on making all their Persona spinoffs canon for some reason. Also: Funky Valentine posted:Bench Ken forever.
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Funky Valentine posted:Bench Ken forever.
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I never knew Fortune had other attacks, I've only seen him spam his wheel. Also,Funky Valentine posted:Bench Ken forever.
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And here is where I mentioned that Takuya's revolver gets silly. Shinjiro got shot twice by a hunting revolver. Even if he managed to survive the first shot, Shinjiro should have been too injured to even move to shield Ken from the second shot. Furthermore, Shinjiro's attempt at shielding Ken still should have failed because humans have a lot less muscle mass than something like a moose or a bear, meaning that second shot would have passed right through Shinjiro and killed Ken (since Takuya looks like he's aiming down at Ken's head, at least from the pre-cutscene positioning). Ken owes his life not to Shinjiro, but to the Anime Cutscene Realm. And Portable is going to add one more layer of silliness to this scene, if you can imagine.Funky Valentine posted:Good on Aki and Mitsuru for not notifying the rest of the team that the halfpint is a walking emotional time bomb.
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Note that the extra layer of incompetence when you consider that Ken joined the modern-day SEES before Shinjiro. You'd think they'd have given the kid a heads up that his mortal enemy was back on the team. The P3 side of Persona Q doesn't have the Kanji/Ken sideplot, but Ken and Shinjiro actually do come to a mutual understanding in their own way, and Shinji offers to cook Ken something when they get back (I think omelette with rice).
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