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Rocksicles posted:John Carter is a good movie. John Carter was a better version of Avatar which was also an hour shorter, making it the best version of Avatar.
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John carter was trash
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ATP_Power posted:I'm still bummed that they never released the Belter creole version of "Tighten Up" they used in the first episode. Syfy did a bad job putting together the trailer (and like, making TV shows for the longest time) so I was a skeptic on the show going in, but drat if that scene didn't get me on board. sebmojo posted:Just watched the first couple of Altered Carbon, and that's some good gritty hypernoir cyberpunk if you're looking for such. Thread over here. My expectations on this were also pretty low and so I've been pleasantly surprised (just finished up Episode 8). It can still be a bit hit or miss in terms of dialog but they do a really good job of selling the 'runaway technological progress stripping us of our humanity' theme. The violence and nudity are over the top but they kinda have to be. quote:John Carter John Carter Was OK I Guess
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Also they do have the UHD season two available as well on Amazon. It's stupid hard to find, I did a Google search for it and used that link.
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Am I supposed to like Amos? He seems mostly creepy and horrible
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shovelbum posted:Am I supposed to like Amos? He seems mostly creepy and horrible He is, like, the third best character and you'll see why soon enough. Second being Avasarala and First being Drummer, obviously
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Feb 14, 2018 20:02
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Outwardly, he's cheerier and less haunted in the books. Whether that's more or less creepy is debatable.
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Feb 14, 2018 20:14
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shovelbum posted:Am I supposed to like Amos? He seems mostly creepy and horrible "like" is a complicated question. Best place on the issue is somewhere between rooting for him and  at what he does.
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Feb 14, 2018 20:17
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I like book Amos better than show Amos, but he's 100% supposed to come off as a sociopath either way because he, uh, is. He gets more character development later on, and he's definitely competing for second place in my character rankings (number one being an absolutely uncontested Avasarala, ofc).
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Feb 14, 2018 20:18
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unofficial rankings 1) avasarala 2) amos 3) miller 4) bobbie 5) alex 6) fred 7) drummer 8) Naomi 9) Dawes 10) Prax 11) Errenwright . . . 57) Diogo 58) Jules-Pierre Mao 59) Jim
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Crazycryodude posted:I like book Amos better than show Amos, but he's 100% supposed to come off as a sociopath either way because he, uh, is. He gets more character development later on, and he's definitely competing for second place in my character rankings (number one being an absolutely uncontested Avasarala, ofc). I like them both and agree book version is better but only because there's been more characterization over all the books. But in defense of the show version, Wes Chatham was a brilliant casting choice. He was a huge fan of the books before the show was a thing and he totally gets what Amos is all about.
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Feb 14, 2018 20:24
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He's an interesting character and it's a good portrayal but getting stuck on a merchant ship with that kind of guy like they were at the start of the story is very high on my list of personal nightmares
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Feb 14, 2018 20:29
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Am I wrong in figuring that Amos had a similar thing done to him as the nanoinfomatics guy? Or is he just supposed to be a natural sociopath?
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Feb 14, 2018 21:26
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Drummer is the best character because she likes to drink and shoot motherfuckers
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Feb 14, 2018 21:28
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Zurui posted:Am I wrong in figuring that Amos had a similar thing done to him as the nanoinfomatics guy? Or is he just supposed to be a natural sociopath? I mean I don't think we have 100% proof, but it's almost certain that he's a natural sociopath due in large part to his upbringing in the slums of Baltimore (violence, sex trafficking, etc.). The nanoinfomatics guy got the procedure done as part of career progression in a R&D field, which doesn't seem in character for a guy like Amos. It seems like a relatively sophisticated (and possibly illegal or proprietary) procedure, and I don't recall seeing any soldiers with a similar profile as that guy.
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Feb 14, 2018 21:30
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Pretty sure he's meant to be just a natural sociopath and recognised a kindred spirit in the nanoinformatics guy.
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Feb 14, 2018 21:32
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It really jumps off two small moments for me. The first is when Fred Johnson says he's seen quite a few trigger-happy boys like Amos. The second is when Amos asks if the magnetic procedure can be reversed. It seems like a personal moment for him, for some reason, like he's connected to it. I mean, it's not a lot but it figures for me.
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Feb 14, 2018 21:33
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he didn't have his brain modified like scientist man, he turned out the way he is because he had to be that kind of person to survive. edit: https://twitter.com/SAghdashloo/status/963874606476963840 uber_stoat fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Feb 14, 2018 |
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Feb 14, 2018 21:34
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Zurui posted:It really jumps off two small moments for me. The first is when Fred Johnson says he's seen quite a few trigger-happy boys like Amos. The second is when Amos asks if the magnetic procedure can be reversed. It seems like a personal moment for him, for some reason, like he's connected to it. the magnetic procedure reversing is just him wondering if there was a generic scientific cure for sociopathy.
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shovelbum posted:Am I supposed to like Amos? He seems mostly creepy and horrible
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uber_stoat posted:he didn't have his brain modified like scientist man, he turned out the way he is because he had to be that kind of person to survive. He asked that one lady if the procedure was reversible, implying he had it done to him.
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Feb 14, 2018 22:30
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Mu Zeta posted:He asked that one lady if the procedure was reversible, implying he had it done to him. Naturally born blind man pins hope that induced blindness can be cured. Not a doctor.
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Feb 14, 2018 22:36
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Pander posted:the magnetic procedure reversing is just him wondering if there was a generic scientific cure for sociopathy.
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Feb 14, 2018 22:37
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Mu Zeta posted:He asked that one lady if the procedure was reversible, implying he had it done to him. If he'd had it done he'd have probably been more aware of it as a procedure and already had that answer. He seemed intrigued by the guy. The scene does not imply he had it done to him, and there is a boatload of evidence that his hosed up childhood is what caused his sociopathy.
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Feb 14, 2018 22:42
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Pander posted:"like" is a complicated question. Best place on the issue is somewhere between rooting for him and Best scene had to be the bet payoff scene with Alex
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Feb 14, 2018 23:37
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Alex won me over as my favourite character in Season 2 during the scene where he's just chilling on the Roci cracking beers and messing around in zero g.
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Mu Zeta posted:He asked that one lady if the procedure was reversible, implying he had it done to him. Nah, he actually seemed surprised it was an actual procedure and that people would have it done. Amos is definitely a product of nature/nurture. That’s why he latches on to someone he considers worthy as his moral compass. It was Naomi until she let him down, and he was eventually drawn into the the orbit of planet Holden.
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Pander posted:If he'd had it done he'd have probably been more aware of it as a procedure and already had that answer. He seemed intrigued by the guy. The scene does not imply he had it done to him, and there is a boatload of evidence that his hosed up childhood is what caused his sociopathy. I meant that it was done to him without his knowledge or he isn't able to remember it, like he was hopeful that it was a reversible procedure.
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I'm watching Season 2 right now. It doesn't seem like Amos received this treatment. I think it's Alex that mentions that Amos became a sociopath because of his childhood.
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I feel like Alex is the most realistic type of guy you'd find on a commercial ship irl. Well the captain of the cant was awesome too
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They had to make a special trailer just for Drummer because she's that drat hard, this is all I'm saying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrVgSVFXM8M
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Feb 15, 2018 05:09
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Can I be a pedant and say that Amos is definitely not a sociopath? He’s got a very strong sense of right and wrong for example. He’s just got a very short flowchart with very few possible outcomes for dealing with things that is what he had to develop to survive.
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Taintrunner posted:They had to make a special trailer just for Drummer because she's that drat hard, this is all I'm saying The uploader has not made this video available in your country. What sort of broke-brain idiots region-restrict loving promotional material.
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AlternateAccount posted:Can I be a pedant and say that Amos is definitely not a sociopath? He’s got a very strong sense of right and wrong for example. He’s just got a very short flowchart with very few possible outcomes for dealing with things that is what he had to develop to survive. I hope you can, because I was just about to say that. I wouldn't call Amos a sociopath. It's more that he is incredibly violent under certain conditions and that he just considers violence a tool -- and a very effective one. But a key part of Amos' character is that he's aware that he's pretty broken, whether as a result of genetics or his upbringing. He shows some sociopathic tendencies (the superficial charm, seeming lack of genuine affect) but there are many he is precisely the opposite (deception, narcissism, irresponsibility). For example, Amos doesn't lack the capability to feel remorse, but he lacks the capability to express it in a healthy fashion. Likewise, his violence isn't impulsive -- it's a considered response to a threat. When Amos' violence is impulsive, as it gets in Book 7 at points, everyone acknowledges that it's out of character. And it stems from Amos having feelings that he doesn't know how to process, filtering them through the only thing he knows -- which is dog-eat-dog violence. Milkfred E. Moore fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Feb 15, 2018 |
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There is a novella called The Churn which is entirely about where Amos comes from, if you guys want to know more. It's pretty good.
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AlternateAccount posted:Can I be a pedant and say that Amos is definitely not a sociopath? He’s got a very strong sense of right and wrong for example. He’s just got a very short flowchart with very few possible outcomes for dealing with things that is what he had to develop to survive.
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I mean, if we're trying to be accurate about it, sociopathy isn't a well-defined term, and medical people don't use it.
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Dancer posted:I mean, if we're trying to be accurate about it, sociopathy isn't a well-defined term, and medical people don't use it.
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Capri Sun Tzu posted:Its just easier to say than antisocial personality disorder, which Amos definitely has I have a similar condition and can relate. You don't walk around acting like Tony Soprano all the time to be sure, even capable of empathy. When the feels switch off and you disconnect from emotions, watch out.
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Amos has just developed a way to fit every situation into a “Kill, Marry(or become incredibly loyal to), gently caress”
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