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Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Spark That Bled posted:

Wonderful. I can just imagine Sterling starting up his latest lootbox whinge now.

you don't have to watch the videos you know
maybe when people stop doing bullshit people will stop talking about people doing the bullshit

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NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Ya know, I don't think Rises was all Nolan's fault. I haven't played it but the writer for the Dark Knight Trilogy also worked on one of the Call of Duty Black Ops games and I heard there is essentially another Bane in that game; noble revolutionary on the surface but secretly just wanting to burn everything to the ground in reality.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


David S Goyer kinda loving sucks yeah

Spark That Bled
Jan 29, 2010

Hungry for responsibility. Horny for teamwork.

And ready to
BUST A NUT
up in this job!

Skills include:
EIGHT-FOOT VERTICAL LEAP

Augus posted:

you don't have to watch the videos you know
maybe when people stop doing bullshit people will stop talking about people doing the bullshit

So does this mean people should stop posting Jim Sterling stuff, then?

rudecyrus
Nov 6, 2009

fuck you trolls
I love Jim Sterling for all the whining he brings out.

Spark That Bled
Jan 29, 2010

Hungry for responsibility. Horny for teamwork.

And ready to
BUST A NUT
up in this job!

Skills include:
EIGHT-FOOT VERTICAL LEAP

rudecyrus posted:

I love Jim Sterling for all the whining he brings out.

He is such a whiner, isn't he?

SgtSteel91
Oct 21, 2010

Spark That Bled posted:

What else is he going to talk about? That's all he ever does nowadays. It's all he can talk about.

It's an ongoing problem that should be called out, unless you don't really care about loot boxes or big publishers going full force into monetizing games - sorry I mean "live services" as per Ubisofts new model

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Spark That Bled posted:

So does this mean people should stop posting Jim Sterling stuff, then?

just stop visiting this thread then, it'll be win/win for everyone

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Spark That Bled posted:

What else is he going to talk about? That's all he ever does nowadays. It's all he can talk about.

He's already said next week's is going to be about how poo poo the Dynasty Warriors people are so

SgtSteel91 posted:

Which one is that?

Not challenging you, but I'm just curious what Jim had to say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCr0iZjXIRc

Spark That Bled
Jan 29, 2010

Hungry for responsibility. Horny for teamwork.

And ready to
BUST A NUT
up in this job!

Skills include:
EIGHT-FOOT VERTICAL LEAP

Augus posted:

just stop visiting this thread then, it'll be win/win for everyone

But then how will I know about the videos of the people who actually matter?

Spark That Bled
Jan 29, 2010

Hungry for responsibility. Horny for teamwork.

And ready to
BUST A NUT
up in this job!

Skills include:
EIGHT-FOOT VERTICAL LEAP
Also, Giant Bomb on Dynasty Warriors 9:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K-AV2YZ3Vg

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

people sure do get peeved about a videogames guy talking about...things happening in videogames :confused: I get taking issue with the actual content or presentation of stuff (he does lean towards the sensationalist-presenting, angry-shouty indignation at faceless corporation end of the spectrum), but just complaining about covering ongoing issues is weird.

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

Spark That Bled posted:

What else is he going to talk about? That's all he ever does nowadays. It's all he can talk about.

Well, if he's going to try and keep a spotlight on that poo poo, then I'm happy that he's doing it.

Stirling's a good person to have active, thinking about the gamergate bullshit from years past he's seems like one of the few people who actually did try to have 'ethics in games journalism', and he managed to do it without being a big racist, sexist dipshit! Wow!

He's also clearly and openly putting on act a lot of the time with his persona, I think people ought to pick on that more when he's exclaiming 'thank god for me' and posting footage of himself in shiny purple bodysuit badmouthing the crowd before getting into a wrestling match.

khwarezm fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Feb 15, 2018

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


Motto posted:

people sure do get peeved about a videogames guy talking about...things happening in videogames :confused: I get taking issue with the actual content or presentation of stuff (he does lean towards the sensationalist-presenting, angry-shouty indignation at faceless corporation end of the spectrum), but just complaining about covering ongoing issues is weird.

I can see getting kind of tired of the same news over and over. Though at least Jim tries to make everything else interesting. And presumably nobody's like mashing your face to the screen and forcing you to watch.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

a medical mystery posted:

Xenophobia based more specifically on ethnicity has always been a thing but the idea of races that span these ethnicities and consequently racism is in comparison a pretty recent phenomenon. The concept of "whites vs. others" wasn't fully established as a legitimization of hierarchy, slavery, and cheap labor until colonial Virginia.

the idea of race didn't develop until the age of sail, where dumbass europeans could move across large swathes of the earth and notice vast differences in phenotype, which they turned into the stupid idea of there being 5-6 races of humanity based on continent.

in reality, phenotypic variation is so gradual if you actually take it all in, say if you walked from portugal to japan, you would be hard-pressed to divide all the types of variation you saw into discrete races of humanity.

and speaking of kingdom come: deliverance, vavra is a big time racist and anti-sjw type you can easily see from his twitter feed. his racist and sexist ideology has clearly been injected deep into his game, where all-white medieval europe is authentic where in reality the concept of white didn't exist and ethnicity was always in flux, there was a lot more that determined what community you belonged to than what you looked like.

also the racist representation of cumans, i haven't played the game but historically steppe tribes like cumans and avars weren't mortal enemies of native whites or anything, in fact there was a lot of mixing between basically everyone in the region despite how we would ethnically classify them today, and people could switch their group membership, as can be told by burial goods and more evidence, there was a whole ton of cultural mixing, and more mixing than inter-group warfare.

after all, many of these groups just ended up assimilated into the locals, look at old examples like huns, bulgars and many more.

Acute Grill
Dec 9, 2011

Chomp
The pro-consumer line is always just "wahhh why won't companies be ethical for no reason when I buy everything they release anyway?" Sure, Sterling shits on Overwatch now that it doesn't hurt his bottom line but its issues weren't enough to stop him from recommending it to all his readers with a genuinely rare 9.0 review.

WONDER WHY THEY KEEP DOING IT? :iiam:

I would be happy as a pig in poo poo if lottery tickets for minors lootboxes disappeared tomorrow bit it's not like anybody is actually getting with gambling commissions or doing anything else to try and stop them.

Acute Grill fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Feb 15, 2018

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
Actually a whole lot of gambling commissions around the world are classifying them as gambling targeted at minors. That doesn't mean they can legally do something immediately about it though.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



They still haven't yet in America, and if it was they would be shut down here. Our casino lobby is strong enough that operating online gambling to US based targets is practically impossible.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

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Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Terrible Opinions posted:

They still haven't yet in America, and if it was they would be shut down here. Our casino lobby is strong enough that operating online gambling to US based targets is practically impossible.

Hawaii would disagree with you. They were the first ones to reclassify it. Belgium and Victoria, Australia's followed from their precedent.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



It took four years for online poker to get shutdown nationwide here and it's taking a similar length of time for the online sports betting to get shutdown, but eventually the money of big casino will work to remove all forms of online gambling.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Terrible Opinions posted:

It took four years for online poker to get shutdown nationwide here and it's taking a similar length of time for the online sports betting to get shutdown, but eventually the money of big casino will work to remove all forms of online gambling.

What'll probably do lootboxes in is whichever politician smells blood in the water first and tries to ride the "They're making OUR CHILDREN GAMBLE :byodood:" train.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Terrible Opinions posted:

It took four years for online poker to get shutdown nationwide here and it's taking a similar length of time for the online sports betting to get shutdown, but eventually the money of big casino will work to remove all forms of online gambling.

Online gambling is bad so this is actually really good.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Oh I should make clear. Although I am uncomfortable with how much money casinos have to influence the government, I am fully in support of banning all online gambling.

Spark That Bled
Jan 29, 2010

Hungry for responsibility. Horny for teamwork.

And ready to
BUST A NUT
up in this job!

Skills include:
EIGHT-FOOT VERTICAL LEAP

khwarezm posted:

He's also clearly and openly putting on act a lot of the time with his persona, I think people ought to pick on that more when he's exclaiming 'thank god for me' and posting footage of himself in shiny purple bodysuit badmouthing the crowd before getting into a wrestling match.

Well, that's the reason why I once compared him to Doug Walker on this thread. Dumb skits and a highly obnoxious persona. It's why I skip the preamble on every Jimquisition video I watch.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Spark That Bled posted:

Well, that's the reason why I once compared him to Doug Walker on this thread. Dumb skits and a highly obnoxious persona. It's why I skip the preamble on every Jimquisition video I watch.

Being compared to Doug Walker isn't a fate I'd wish on anyone...

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

nine-gear crow posted:

Being compared to Doug Walker isn't a fate I'd wish on anyone...

Plus Jim is able to separate his persona from his reviews

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008

Spark That Bled posted:

Well, that's the reason why I once compared him to Doug Walker on this thread. Dumb skits and a highly obnoxious persona. It's why I skip the preamble on every Jimquisition video I watch.

At least Doug isn't painful to look at.

AriadneThread
Feb 17, 2011

The Devil sounds like smoke and honey. We cannot move. It is too beautiful.


Archer666 posted:

At least Doug isn't painful to look at.

classy

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

SgtSteel91 posted:

Which one is that?

Not challenging you, but I'm just curious what Jim had to say

Per the latest Jimquisition and the video he recently uploaded about Sea of Thieves, his take is basically that you have to pick one of these:
  • Go ahead and have your loot boxes and pay-to-win economy, but make your base game free to play.
  • Go ahead and sell reasonably-priced DLC in your full-priced game, but don't go overboard and don't build your whole game around it. He's a little bit vague on this one, but he seems to consider things like selling 99-cent costumes and skins and stuff to be "cosmetic DLC" and not "microtransactions." They cross the line into being "microtransactions" when they're either overpriced or manipulatively pushed on you. (He makes this point around here in the Sea of Thieves video.)
I think he's drawing an arbitrary distinction in order to say that there's no way to have ethical microtransactions in a full-priced game, but I don't disagree with his core point, fundamentally.

Harrow fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Feb 15, 2018

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Or go to the War Thunder free to play model. The key is having a solid game with no restrictions in place to hamper non paying players. The only thing premium currency can do that regular game currency cannot is buy special vehicles that often have downsides to balance them out, or to max out pilot stats, which really don't matter considering how fast you die if you get cornered.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Time for some :sparkles: Miracles :sparkles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG5aBcTdu1M

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

Spark That Bled posted:

Well, that's the reason why I once compared him to Doug Walker on this thread. Dumb skits and a highly obnoxious persona. It's why I skip the preamble on every Jimquisition video I watch.

Well considering that most of his skits, if he has them, tend to be five seconds at the start of the video before he dives into the actual topic that just seems pointless and petty.

Jeez, some goons always act like massive hipsters about stuff like this.

Spark That Bled
Jan 29, 2010

Hungry for responsibility. Horny for teamwork.

And ready to
BUST A NUT
up in this job!

Skills include:
EIGHT-FOOT VERTICAL LEAP

khwarezm posted:

Well considering that most of his skits, if he has them, tend to be five seconds at the start of the video before he dives into the actual topic that just seems pointless and petty.

Jeez, some goons always act like massive hipsters about stuff like this.

I'm pretty sure those skits last a lot longer than five seconds.

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.

Arcsquad12 posted:

Or go to the War Thunder free to play model. The key is having a solid game with no restrictions in place to hamper non paying players. The only thing premium currency can do that regular game currency cannot is buy special vehicles that often have downsides to balance them out, or to max out pilot stats, which really don't matter considering how fast you die if you get cornered.

I'm not familiar with War Thunder but that doesn't sound all that great either, TBH. Idgi, if pilot stats don't really matter why pay to max them out? Either it's bad for the game or it's bad for the people buying into it. And I'm leery of restricted access to sidegrades ever since TF2 utterly failed to make a compelling case for the concept; does the base game evolve much at all or does it mostly get reserved for new premium stuff?


I feel like me and Jim are just about on the same wavelength w/r/t MTX judging from his Warframe vids. If you want to fairly price additional (non-gameplay-related) goodies and sell them to me and I give you the money and then I get exactly what you were advertising and I get exactly what I want...then no harm, no foul. At worst we quibble about the price. But if you need to hide everything in gamble boxes, or restrictive bundle schemes, or currency shenanigans, or gimmicks, or limited availability, or basically anything that isn't just a simple transaction then gently caress off.

John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Feb 15, 2018

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

Arcsquad12 posted:

Or go to the War Thunder free to play model. The key is having a solid game with no restrictions in place to hamper non paying players. The only thing premium currency can do that regular game currency cannot is buy special vehicles that often have downsides to balance them out, or to max out pilot stats, which really don't matter considering how fast you die if you get cornered.

I'm actually considering throwing my hat in with video game discussion and am writing up a script discussing Planetside 2. Its a free to play MMOFPS, everything minus cosmetics and xp boosts can be bought with in game currency, and xp comes in at a good rate in my opinion that you don't really feel like you're being held back by not paying cash. Not only that but the majority of infantry weapons are either side grades or specializations from the default guns with some exceptions that its serviceable to stick with them while you rack up experience to buy different guns. Even then since there are multiple classes you technically start with multiple weapons already.

On top of that, should you decide to pay cash for a gun or cosmetic its... you know....



Not random.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
https://twitter.com/bobbyrobertspdx/status/964199684368564224

we regret to inform you that ready player 1 is gonna be rear end

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


I mean that's not exactly surprising or anything
visual iconography gets picked over themes, every single time.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

John Murdoch posted:

I'm not familiar with War Thunder but that doesn't sound all that great either, TBH. Idgi, if pilot stats don't really matter why pay to max them out? Either it's bad for the game or it's bad for the people buying into it. And I'm leery of restricted access to sidegrades ever since TF2 utterly failed to make a compelling case for the concept; does the base game evolve much at all or does it mostly get reserved for new premium stuff?

Pilot stats determine stuff like how long a pilot can sustain a high G turn before blacking out, how many Gs they can pull, and how far they can see enemies at and target them. The stuff about G forces is only a difference in milliseconds to juuuust last in a high G maneuver a bit longer. The sight range only applies to when you can target them. If you use your mark one eyeball you can still spot enemy planes on the map from miles away.
Essentially, pilot stats give you a tiny endurance edge that can easily be countered by outflying your opponent. And the ingame non premium currency is enough to get your pilots to a decent level without ever needing to spend gold.
The premium planes also regularly get discounted and there are frequent events where completing game tasks will give you certain premium planes as rewards. The premium planes are also balanced so they're not overpowered and can be beaten with better flying. Their main bonus is their reward bonus. They are nn premium currency printers when flown right

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Roth
Jul 9, 2016

sexpig by night posted:

https://twitter.com/bobbyrobertspdx/status/964199684368564224

we regret to inform you that ready player 1 is gonna be rear end

I'm not exactly seeing the problem.

Like, in the context of the movie's universe of people picking virtual avatars, there's obviously going to be people picking characters and vehicles from fiction that really do not support the idea of how cool it would be to be some mass dealer of death like Iron Giant, Gundam, Evangelion. It's not like that's the actual Iron Giant from the movie there.

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