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Ernest Cline can just be a stupid dork who wrote a bad book. You don't need to fantasize about him being some moral monster.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Ernest Cline can just be a stupid dork who wrote a bad book. You don't need to fantasize about him being some moral monster. i don't think anyone's really fantasizing here. the worldview exhibited by his books is a really genuinely awful one that he's voiced support for in nonfictional contexts. e: like, he's a stupid dork who wrote a bad book, but then you start picking apart why the book is bad beyond the obvious, and hooooooly blistering gently caress. Ernest Cline is basically a guy who saw the society depicted by Snow Crash and went "yeah, this but unironically!" and didn't realize that Snow Crash was meant to be a loving dystopia, not a utopia.
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Feb 16, 2018 20:27
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Ernest Cline can just be a stupid dork who wrote a bad book. You don't need to fantasize about him being some moral monster. He very well might be deep down in his soul. There’s something about this book so far that’s very stream of conscious. And it’s painting the picture of a very disturbed young man. But I don’t think Cline finds him as frustratingly annoying as I do.
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Feb 16, 2018 20:28
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:i don't think anyone's really fantasizing here. the worldview exhibited by his books is a really genuinely awful one that he's voiced support for in nonfictional contexts. Too bad Spielbergo didn't do a Snow Crash movie instead.
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Feb 16, 2018 21:04
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Ernest Cline can just be a stupid dork who wrote a bad book. You don't need to fantasize about him being some moral monster. Tbh that "I want pornstars with librarian glasses" cringe poo poo makes me support capital punishment but solely for Ernest Cline.
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Feb 16, 2018 21:20
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DC Murderverse posted:"with great power comes great ooh look a video game" I was thinking more street punk than spiderman, but that would work too I guess.
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Feb 16, 2018 21:24
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Dork/nerd toxicity isn't just some cutely pathetic or existentially neutral benign thing if you haven't noticed, almost all of its dark manifestations tend to be misogynistic, racist, reactionary, blindly consumerist. Ready Player One and his lovely poem are definitely hand in hand with a few of those descriptors. I have noticed, and I'm not sure what inventing fake stories to gossip about Cline has to do with that. The kind of poo poo you're describing is incredibly common, are we just electing Cline the avatar of Bad Nerds Everywhere and beating the poo poo out of him online for catharsis? 'Cuz I'd rather confront the system, which btw is selling kids Black Panther merchandise right now.
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Feb 16, 2018 21:52
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Ernest Cline can just be a stupid dork who wrote a bad book. You don't need to fantasize about him being some moral monster. His poetry makes him a moral monster
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Feb 16, 2018 21:54
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Ernest Cline is a loving pile of poo poo and if you're defending him you're just as bad. He wrote a manifesto on his perfect waifu who likes all his nerd poo poo not like those other SLUTS. gently caress that noise. gently caress THAT.
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Feb 16, 2018 21:57
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I have noticed, and I'm not sure what inventing fake stories to gossip about Cline has to do with that. The kind of poo poo you're describing is incredibly common, are we just electing Cline the avatar of Bad Nerds Everywhere and beating the poo poo out of him online for catharsis? 'Cuz I'd rather confront the system, which btw is selling kids Black Panther merchandise right now. honestly he's mostly just a clear example of those shitbags who's gotten really rich and famous off of it, which makes him a really really easy and obvious target for people who are generally incredibly tired of those shitbags like, I can confront the system and also think Ernest Cline is a complete dildo, these are not incompatible.
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Feb 16, 2018 21:59
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Vintersorg posted:Ernest Cline is a loving pile of poo poo and if you're defending him you're just as bad. He wrote a manifesto on his perfect waifu who likes all his nerd poo poo not like those other SLUTS. gently caress that noise. gently caress THAT. Heaven forbid I should point out that writing lovely nerd stories and participating in lovely nerd culture (which again, is selling people on Black Panther and none of you will say a word) doesn't make you a molester. Anything other than nodding along and jumping in on the 3 minute dogpile makes me a piece of poo poo, too. http://archive.li/7ZOhq Your post is exactly what this essay is talking about.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:10
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gently caress you.quote:Nerd Porn Auteur
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Feb 16, 2018 22:14
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The poem is 1 step away from an Elliot Rodgers type breakdown.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:16
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Vintersorg posted:The poem is 1 step away from an Elliot Rodgers type breakdown. No it isn't, it's some loving dipshit thinking he's being profound and ~*blowing your mind*~ with his perspective that ~*smart is sexy*~. You're trivializing a horrific misogynist and a massacre in an effort to dunk on some dipshit's embarrassingly bad poetry, get a grip.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:20
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what the gently caress does black panther have to do with ernest cline being a piece of poo poo, outside of, i dunno, the vague presence of capitalism
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Feb 16, 2018 22:20
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:No it isn't, it's some loving dipshit thinking he's being profound and ~*blowing your mind*~ with his perspective that ~*smart is sexy*~. You're trivializing a horrific misogynist and a massacre in an effort to dunk on some dipshit's embarrassingly bad poetry, get a grip. Ernest Cline is trash and a misogynist tho. https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-trophy-woman-of-ready-player-one-1798309534 Ernist Cline posted:Art3mis’s body was also somewhat unusual. In the OASIS, you usually saw one of two body shapes on female avatars: the absurdly thin yet wildly popular supermodel frame, or the top-heavy, wasp-waisted porn starlet physique (which looked even less natural in the OASIS than it did in the real world). But Art3mis’s frame was short and Rubenesque. All curves. quote:Art3mis is introduced as another obsession of Wade’s. She’s a strong, smart, and high-level gamer who runs a popular blog and, later, clothing line for plus-sized avatars. He follows her on every social media account he can get his virtual hands on, going so far as to save all her avatar photos on his computer. He even admits it during their first online chat, telling her: “I’ve had a crush on you since before we even met. From reading your blog and watching your POV. I’ve been cyber-stalking you for years.” In both virtual and real life, this is never cute or romantic. It’s a red flag.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:25
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Well this conversation has turned from "maybe making up fantasy scenarios about a dipshit nerd with bad opinions and bad writing isn't productive" to "ADMIT HE'S BAD, ADMIT IT!" so I'm outta here! *gets in a DeLorean that has a Superman symbol on the side and crashes into a wall*
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Feb 16, 2018 22:31
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Ernist Cline posted:Art3mis’s body was also somewhat unusual. In the OASIS, you usually saw one of two body shapes on female avatars: the absurdly thin yet wildly popular supermodel frame, or the top-heavy, wasp-waisted porn starlet physique (which looked even less natural in the OASIS than it did in the real world). But Art3mis’s frame was short and Rubenesque. All curves.  he didn't realize that half the people using Oasis would be women who weren't solely trying to style their avatars for sexual objectification by men.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:55
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Vintersorg posted:The poem is 1 step away from an Elliot Rodgers type breakdown. I'm mostly seeing how he doesn't like porn stars with blatant plastic surgery and fake tits in favor nerdy women? I don't care for this guy and his dumb book, but equivocating him with Elliot Rodgers is a bit reactionary IMO.
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Feb 16, 2018 23:15
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Vintersorg posted:Ernest Cline is a loving pile of poo poo and if you're defending him you're just as bad. He wrote a manifesto on his perfect waifu who likes all his nerd poo poo not like those other SLUTS. gently caress that noise. gently caress THAT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD0fUz4rmQg
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Feb 16, 2018 23:35
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Where did this thread go? Holy gently caress.
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Feb 17, 2018 00:10
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:..lovely nerd culture (which again, is selling people on Black Panther and none of you will say a word) I’d really like to know what this means, because it’s making you look a bit sketchy as gently caress. What possible issue is there with selling a black movie, with a black cast, made by black people? And how is this propagated by “Bad Nerd Culture”?
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Feb 17, 2018 00:34
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Proteus Jones posted:I’d really like to know what this means, because it’s making you look a bit sketchy as gently caress. What possible issue is there with selling a black movie, with a black cast, made by black people? And how is this propagated by “Bad Nerd Culture”? Repeating what I've seen elsewhere, it's the fact that Disney, a place filled with white people, is the one who produced it.
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Feb 17, 2018 00:37
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I hate Ready Player One, not because of Ernest CLine, but because it could have been well-written without much effort. A treasure hunt in a virtual world full of the creator's nostalgic memories, how do you gently caress that up!?
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Feb 17, 2018 00:44
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viral spiral posted:I'm mostly seeing how he doesn't like porn stars with blatant plastic surgery and fake tits in favor nerdy women? it's a poem about how much better he is than the guys who watch that particular style of porn star because he cares about *their mindsssss* but it's really just a different type of fetishization.
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Feb 17, 2018 00:49
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MonsieurChoc posted:I hate Ready Player One, not because of Ernest CLine, but because it could have been well-written without much effort. A treasure hunt in a virtual world full of the creator's nostalgic memories, how do you gently caress that up!? I got inside my Deloran which looks just like the one from Back to the Future part 1! But not part 2 because part 2 is bad there is only part one also there is a sticker from anime and a sticker from ghostbusters and it has voltron and iron giant and ddduddunaseqrwfh rshu
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Feb 17, 2018 00:54
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Proteus Jones posted:I’d really like to know what this means, because it’s making you look a bit sketchy as gently caress. What possible issue is there with selling a black movie, with a black cast, made by black people? And how is this propagated by “Bad Nerd Culture”? Black Panther is being sold exactly like every other nerd movie, it's encouraging people to make fandom of the movie a part of their identity in order to move tickets and merch. It's simply marketed differently and perceived differently from other movies, internalized a lot more, evaluated as a matter of character and not as taste. Compare the discourse around BPanther to Get Out or Moonlight (both also African-American directed, also important films that had something to say). Now if you're saying "of course it's different you idiot, it's a huge blockbuster superhero film and those other 2 are WAAAAAY smaller" well that's kind of the point, the culture around these enormous comic book movies is ComicCon Hall H culture, it's nerd culture, hype consumerism, "media event that you can't miss and also buy the action figures" stuff, 20 ways it's different from the comic book, "10 things you might have missed" culture. BTW I want to make something perfectly clear: Black Panther is not a bad movie, representation is good, I'm glad the film was made and we absolutely should have had other African-American blockbuster superheroes in the intervening years to fill the gap between this and Blade, there's nothing wrong with loving Black Panther. My aspersions toward the nerd culture (primarily expressed through the entertainment media and licensing tie-ins) around this movie is not an indictment of the film. Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Feb 17, 2018 |
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CelticPredator posted:Repeating what I've seen elsewhere, it's the fact that Disney, a place filled with white people, is the one who produced it. I'm done giving dollars to Disney but even I have to admit Black Panther looks fun, and I'll watch it for free to see Michael B. Jordan.
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Feb 17, 2018 00:56
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CelticPredator posted:I got inside my Deloran which looks just like the one from Back to the Future part 1! But not part 2 because part 2 is bad there is only part one also there is a sticker from anime and a sticker from ghostbusters and it has voltron and iron giant and ddduddunaseqrwfh rshu I'm not hard to please. I'm a huge fan of the Super Robot Wars series, which is a long-running series of anime cross-over fanfics in videogame form. RPO failed to get to that level.
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Feb 17, 2018 00:57
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i am so glad that i have lived to read about ready player one in now 10ish threads. this is truly the dream of a 2035 boy searching for the answer in a 2050 simulation of 2018 or something
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Feb 17, 2018 03:31
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i should write a book that's nothing but references to Ready Player One and call it One Player Ready and make fucktons of money
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Feb 17, 2018 03:44
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:i should write a book that's nothing but references to Ready Player One and call it One Player Ready and make fucktons of money i'm gonna write a book that on the surface appears to be another reference-fest like RPO but make the plot and themes of the book about the violence inherent in the criminal justice system and the failures of the authorities to do their jobs and call it 
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Feb 17, 2018 03:51
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Krankenstyle posted:i am so glad that i have lived to read about ready player one in now 10ish threads. this is truly the dream of a 2035 boy searching for the answer in a 2050 simulation of 2018 or something If you're in the future and reading through Something Awful instead of the other forums and places that are much more relevant and popular is that like the Goodwill Hunting 2 parody scene? "I've read poo poo you haven't even heard about yet!"
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Feb 17, 2018 03:57
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:i should write a book that's nothing but references to Ready Player One and call it One Player Ready and make fucktons of money This sounds like a book that should exist, like Bored of The Rings and Barry Trotter & The Unauthorized Parody.
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Feb 17, 2018 04:02
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Ready Player Juan.
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Feb 17, 2018 04:16
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Lobok posted:If you're in the future and reading through Something Awful instead of the other forums and places that are much more relevant and popular is that like the Goodwill Hunting 2 parody scene? "I've read poo poo you haven't even heard about yet!" I have definitely read some poo poo, but here are the top 3 movie quotes from the year 2050 as filtered through a weirdo who really liked 2018 but also random pop culture I guess? 1. We're gonna need a bigger matrix *racks shotgun* 2. I'm too old for this crap* 3. motherfuckers always trying to drive up a hill in their custom delorean at 88 mph * the movie is the same but they've invented time-spanning censorship so you can never hear the true line even if you know it in your true heart ** Snipes vs. Congress 1999 excempted this from t-s censorship
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Feb 17, 2018 04:20
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Feb 17, 2018 05:23
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Feb 17, 2018 13:56
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^^^let it happen Johnny you’re better than that. LaRusso’s all right.
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I hope the entire thing is them putting off their rematch because they have to pick up their kids form soccer.
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