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Did the ABC elaborate at all how the analysis article diverged from their editorial standards? The timing is just too suspicious and they'd do well to actually show some transparency for the decision making process.
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Feb 16, 2018 13:23
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Buzzfeed does the best AusPol journalism. Buzzfeed.
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Feb 16, 2018 13:26
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The ABC has been planted full of conservatives. It's transparency in that it's obviously bullshit to anyone paying attention
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Feb 16, 2018 13:27
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cheese-cube posted:Did the ABC elaborate at all how the analysis article diverged from their editorial standards? The timing is just too suspicious and they'd do well to actually show some transparency for the decision making process. Nope. It's hard to see why they could take it down unless there was some obvious factual error made. Economic policy is very subjective and the consequences of any proposed policy can be argued very differently. So the obvious answer is that they caved under pressure like when that NBN guy upset Turnball.
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Feb 16, 2018 13:30
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Oh you mean the NBN guy who was banned from writing about the NBN because he upset Turnbull
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Feb 16, 2018 13:35
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I imagine Turnbull's complaints were similar to this garbage piece in which no actual errors were cited. http://www.afr.com/brand/rear-window/abcs-big-corporate-tax-reveal-exposes-its-innumeracy-20180215-h0w582 The fact that QANTAS paid no tax because of previous losses was clearly stated in the article. This dude has constructed some narrative about Alberici being an idiot because he couldn't get past the clickbait tweet. Then he goes on a rant for the rest of the article.
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Feb 16, 2018 15:40
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Feb 16, 2018 15:44
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I'd listen to the Ludlam/Dastayari savagery hour podcast. Also pope is a national treasure. That Australian gothic complete with handmaidens tale and coalition against marriage equality is masterful.
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Feb 16, 2018 16:37
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Sparticle posted:I imagine Turnbull's complaints were similar to this garbage piece in which no actual errors were cited. About 6 months ago I looked at the taxes for a couple of companies who were crowing about a mining royalties increase being shot down and found that they all paid zero corporate tax for the last 5-7 financial years due partly to subsidies/offsets but more importantly due to losses carried-over from previous financial years (In fact they would have paid no tax at all were it not for the paltry mining royalties). When I posted some garbage tweets about it I was immediately pissed on by pro-Liberal/business types who defended the corporations because they were "weren't doing anything illegal." I won't pretend to understand how deferring losses works or any of that poo poo but it's clear that a system where workers pay tax on their earning but their employers don't is a broken system. Of course as we see time and time again poisonous fuckheads deliberately frame the argument in a short-sighted way so that it's business as usual. poo poo's hosed I guess. Also if someone could explain the whole carried-over losses thing that would be swell.
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Feb 16, 2018 16:55
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Criticise government tax reform? Article pulled. Fantasise a case against renewables? No probs Criticise the NBN rollout? Articles pulled. Recite literal stormfront talking points? No problem We would be better off with no ABC right now because it’s a right wing media org but with the perception of a left wing one, so every time it criticises the left it must be true if even the ABC fell for it, while every time it defends the right it must be true if not even the ABC says it.
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Feb 16, 2018 21:57
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you can set off losses against future profit so if you made a loss of $100 last year and a profit of $150 this year you pay tax on $50
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Feb 16, 2018 22:04
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Birdstrike posted:you can set off losses against future profit so if you made a loss of $100 last year and a profit of $150 this year you pay tax on $50 Except you inflate the losses with licencing and interest paid on loans to your foreign holding company, and deflate the profit by booking as much revenue as possible through your Singaporean retail arm.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:23
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but you see none of that is illegal so you aren’t allowed to complain about it
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Feb 16, 2018 22:28
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Rio Tinto is a great corporate citizen you can't blame them for dodging nearly a billion dollars in taxes by lending itself money to numbered Luxembourg subsidiaries. Just lol if your financial advisor hasnt taught you how to do this yet.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:38
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Capt.Whorebags posted:Except you inflate the losses with licencing and interest paid on loans to your foreign holding company, and deflate the profit by booking as much revenue as possible through your Singaporean retail arm. the licences are held in Ireland of course
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Feb 16, 2018 22:46
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Man paying Joyce's rent benefitting indirectly from APVMA relocation The millionaire paying Barnaby Joyce's rent runs a business that is benefiting financially from one of the Deputy Prime Minister's most contentious projects, the relocation of the Australian Pests and Veterinary Medicines Authority.
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Feb 17, 2018 01:07
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Oh man this is great. If Labour cant use all this to push Federal ICAC with cross bench there's no hope for politics in this country.
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Feb 17, 2018 01:23
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G-Spot Run posted:there's no hope for politics in this country.
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Feb 17, 2018 01:24
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Feb 17, 2018 01:49
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hopefully they won't be able to rules-lawyer their way out of this one like when they said Barnaby's mistress wasn't his 'partner' lol
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Feb 17, 2018 01:51
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Many organisations ban/have regulations about relationships in the workplace, the military, the police, even Salvation Army to name a few. Why should the "house on the Hill" be any different, and are there not many past examples as to why this is necessary. Anyway the ACT has many establishments offering discrete dalliance if that is what is required ie. Fyshwick & Mitchell. No need to mess with the junior staff. And if Mr Joyce can spill the seeds from his pants why not the beans from his mouth - after all is he not a member of Cabinet with our most confidential information. Please Barnaby take your family values (and your wife and your children and your partner and your unborn child) (sounds like polygamy doesn't it) and ride into the sunset.
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Feb 17, 2018 01:53
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G-Spot Run posted:there's no hope for country.
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G-Spot Run posted:Oh man this is great. If Labour cant use all this to push Federal ICAC with cross bench there's no hope for politics in this country. President Trumball's going to have to announce one when he gets back from the US - he can define it and keep it small and useless.
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Feb 17, 2018 02:23
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Can't wait for Turnball ICAC to start a long overdue inquiry into Rudd's Pink Batts scheme
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-17/abbott-weighs-in-on-barnaby-joyce-affair/9457714quote:Today, Mr Abbott said if politicians wanted to give each other advice, they should do so by knocking on their door and picking up the phone to talk directly.
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Not surprising. I'm sure we all recall the talk about the Mad Monk and Credlin. They denied it but never went after anyone for defamation about it.
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Feb 17, 2018 03:55
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cheese-cube posted:Did the ABC elaborate at all how the analysis article diverged from their editorial standards? The timing is just too suspicious and they'd do well to actually show some transparency for the decision making process. Lets have a look shall we? https://web.archive.org/web/20180214054214/http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-14/company-tax-rate-cut-arguments-missing-evidence/9443874
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https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/feb/17/turnbull-fifield-and-morrison-wrote-to-abc-boss-before-tax-cut-analysis-was-removed-report Haha, so now it's come out that Turnbull, Fifield and Morrison all wrote to the ABC to have the article taken down. Also Guardian is reporting that a complaint was taken by the ABC because Shorten tweeted a link to the article as it was then biased because of reasons.
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Feb 17, 2018 08:35
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I really hope all this shite will affect the polls.
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Feb 17, 2018 08:49
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Ora Tzo posted:I really hope all this shite will affect the polls. I feel like they will lose another 2PP point but Turnbull will stay ahead in Prefered PM and the press will laud his statesman like handling of the situation.
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Feb 17, 2018 08:53
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I wish Astro Labe would headbutt the CPG.
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And – having already made a public statement revealing the depth of hurt she and her children feel – Natalie Joyce is reported to be considering a television interview.
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It's a shame that these scandals are distracting the laser-like focus from the Coalition's successful legislative agenda such as and including but not exclusively limited to ahh
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Feb 17, 2018 12:09
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CUT TAXES no poo poo we've done that CUT THE DOLE
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Feb 17, 2018 12:14
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https://twitter.com/PatrickPG/status/964827625792270337 The WA National's are raising the flag against Barnaby.. Counting the numbers is happening this weekend. Odd's on it will be ON come the party room meeting on Monday.
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Feb 17, 2018 13:02
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A 90s flashback - somatic gene therapy is playing God http://www.smh.com.au/national/science-s-new-toy-should-scare-us-all-20180215-p4z0hy.html
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Feb 17, 2018 13:06
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