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patonthebach posted:Laws like this sound so great in theory but I wonder what they would actually accomplish. It really seems like the biggest issue around gun violence is either cultural / mental health or its gang/drug/poverty related. I dont know what banning the legal sale of semi-autos would truly do to gun violence in Canada. Blaming gun violence on mental health is a red herring (just Google those search terms). However I am all for programs to cure people of the disease of thinking that they should have a right to own a handgun.
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flakeloaf posted:My money's still on those around him totally believing in his alleged misogyny and bailing the second the boat started to rock. It wasn't a problem until it looked like a problem, then it was an opportunity.
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eXXon posted:Blaming gun violence on mental health is a red herring (just Google those search terms). However I am all for programs to cure people of the disease of thinking that they should have a right to own a handgun. This Shooting Isn't About Gun Control We Refuse To Pass, It’s About Access To Mental Health Care We’re Continuing To Gut
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I've played video games since age 4, watch yourselves I am a trained killer in the arts of contra and bad dudes
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vyelkin posted:This Shooting Isn't About Gun Control We Refuse To Pass, It’s About Access To Mental Health Care We’re Continuing To Gut https://www.theonion.com/it-s-an-honor-to-continue-being-valued-over-countless-h-1819585030
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flakeloaf posted:My money's still on those around him totally believing in his alleged misogyny and bailing the second the boat started to rock. That's my take as well, which is why even if the CTV story turns out to be complete crap (which I'm not convinced it is) it's still interesting how fast everyone around him bailed out. I read that as 'Yup, sounds like him' and everyone scrambling for the exits, rather than an organized smear campaign or a one-off claim against him.
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Chillyrabbit posted:Whoops I should have said I liked that part too Gotcha! Wasn't sure, I thought that always made sense, and making sure people don't walk around with a loaded weapon unless it's for a legal purpose and in an appropriate setting. I know my grandpa proooobably could have done a better job securing his rifle and ammunition, but they were pretty rural. He only ever used it to shoot predators, although I remember when I was very young he shot a dog that had was running wild and started killing a couple of sheep. Turned out to belong to an OPP sergeant who showed up a day later and really tried to make his life hell.
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Secure guns should help deter smash grab thieves, but technically unless you have a real deal bank type vault/safe any thief with a power tool and a plan can break into it. Security through obscurity, if they don't know you possess firearms they won't plan on stealing them. 
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So it’s the Toronto Sun, not the best source, but Patrick Brown is entering the race for OPC leader: http://torontosun.com/news/provincial/patrick-brown-entering-ontario-pc-leadership-race E: CBC corroborates: http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/toronto/brown-enters-leadership-race-1.4539276 Holy what the gently caress ahahaha 
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Feb 16, 2018 21:39
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flakeloaf posted:I want her to take the leadership so the OPCs never see the light of day for the next decade, that'd be fantastic. Please don't say this, tia
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Feb 16, 2018 21:40
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Arivia posted:So it’s the Toronto Sun, not the best source, but Patrick Brown is entering the race for OPC leader: http://torontosun.com/news/provincial/patrick-brown-entering-ontario-pc-leadership-race This is amazing.
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I don't recall seeing this here, so sorry if it's already been shared, but it looks like the RCMP was exactly as terrible as one would expect regarding the Boushie case.quote:Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale says an investigation is underway into a report that an RCMP officer wrote on Facebook that Colten Boushie, a young Cree man who was shot and killed by farmer Gerald Stanley on his rural Saskatchewan property in 2016, "got what he deserved." Classy.
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AegisP posted:This is amazing. I can’t say the phrase “Patrick brown is running to replace himself as OPC leader” without laughing like a hyena. Incredible. Best plot twist. Couldn’t make it up.
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eXXon posted:Blaming gun violence on mental health is a red herring (just Google those search terms). However I am all for programs to cure people of the disease of thinking that they should have a right to own a handgun. Sorry if this wasnt clear, there are 3 or more main facets of gun violence in the west. Each of the problems probably needs a different solution. Thats why its not as simple as banning certain guns or spending money on a certain facet. 1- Mass shooters These are mostly as a result of mental health / culture / community issues 2- Gang related Mostly a result of gangs/drugs/poverty/community 3- Domestic violence Mostly a result of poverty / drug/alcohol abuse / etc So when arguing about gun violence, it helps to say which facet we are trying to minimize. I was more referring to the specific mass shooting in Florida that just occurred and how mental health is an issue there.
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Umm you left out suicide which is definitely a top two 'facet' of gun violence according to any expert I've ever read.
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Getting rid of guns is a really cool idea until you realize it doesn't apply to cops 
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xtal posted:Getting rid of guns is a really cool idea until you realize it doesn't apply to cops Nah it's still a pretty cool idea, because it's not like you're ever going to win in a shootout with the cops anyway.
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PT6A posted:Nah it's still a pretty cool idea, because it's not like you're ever going to win in a shootout with the cops anyway. Just means I gotta buy more guns to out-gun the cops. Duh.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0vpzpjKVsw This is definitely a man who does not suffer from any schiophrenia/paranoia episodes. Nope. Totally normally sane dude. Jesus Christ.
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xtal posted:Getting rid of guns is a really cool idea until you realize it doesn't apply to cops I mean, we COULD apply it to cops as well. Just have a few specialty units that have guns for when they're actually needed.
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Like the British system.
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Cat Wings posted:I mean, we COULD apply it to cops as well. Just have a few specialty units that have guns for when they're actually needed. You mean the guys who constantly drill and train with guns, so they're able to use them safely and effectively? Nah. Let's just hand out C8s to every flat foot and see how that goes.
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I look away for one day and the OPCs somehow find a way to make this an even bigger mess  Brown's got a backer already! (This is an MPP) https://twitter.com/RossRomanoSSM/status/964637386855591936?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Em5%7Ctwgr%5Eemail%7Ctwcon%5E7046%7Ctwterm%5E3
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im the gen xer quoting chumbawamba on twitter in support of the election of a sex offender
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HappyHippo posted:I look away for one day and the OPCs somehow find a way to make this an even bigger mess Already deleted. Looks like one person has some restraint.
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Arivia posted:Already deleted. Looks like one person has some restraint. A good ol boy from the Soo was thanking Patrick Brown for being such a stand up guy who always looks out for the glorious north.
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As someone who only earnestly pays attention to Ontario politics when there’s crack smoking involved, does Horwath and the NDP have a snowball’s chance? The PCs going clown car and Wynne being... Wynne, are the NDP really so ineffectual as to still be shooting for bronze? I feel I already know the answer.
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Let's put it this way, what's the ONDP position on... anything... name literally any part of their platform. Second question, without using Google, who is the NDP candidate in your riding?
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Stickarts posted:As someone who only earnestly pays attention to Ontario politics when there’s crack smoking involved, does Horwath and the NDP have a snowball’s chance? The PCs going clown car and Wynne being... Wynne, are the NDP really so ineffectual as to still be shooting for bronze? The ONDP are comically inept and have struggled the entire time Horwath has been leader to put together literally any message at all let alone one that would put them into contention to win. The people behind Mulcair's hilariously bad election campaign had been part of the ONDP for years prior to that, just in case you want a reference.
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Stickarts posted:As someone who only earnestly pays attention to Ontario politics when there’s crack smoking involved, does Horwath and the NDP have a snowball’s chance? The PCs going clown car and Wynne being... Wynne, are the NDP really so ineffectual as to still be shooting for bronze? The NDP got outflanked by the liberals already on their best policy (universal pharmacare) and really have nothing too different to offer from the liberals to entice the average voter. It would be lovely to have a party who advocated for policies like universal childcare, as any parent in the GTHA can tell you how loving amazing it would be to have a Quebec style system here given how horrible child care functions currently. The best we get is libs committing to fund spaces and hope the magic of the free market ensures it gets cheaper (hint: it won’t.)
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my morning jackass posted:The NDP got outflanked by the liberals already on their best policy (universal pharmacare) and really have nothing too different to offer from the liberals to entice the average voter. Well the other thing (literally, the only other thing) is the plan to buy back Ontario Hydro, normalize delivery fees between rural and urban markets, and royally gently caress with the power market. I'm sure it's a good plan for people outside of the major urban centers, but probably doesn't do much for Toronto/GTHA.
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infernal machines posted:A good ol boy from the Soo was thanking Patrick Brown for being such a stand up guy who always looks out for the glorious north. They're also legit friends. 100% went to university together, not just another good old boy. It how he got the riding here in da sewer, by having Brown come up here in the first place. WaffleLove fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Feb 17, 2018 |
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infernal machines posted:Let's put it this way, what's the ONDP position on... anything... name literally any part of their platform. Andrea Horvath, and I actually doubt a lot of people who have moved here recently know that because outside of a single small billboard on Main Street (that was removed a couple months ago lol) she has a very limited footprint. She keeps herself very distant from politics here and I don’t think the NDP will be able to hold this seat for much longer if they keep so quiet. The OLP is running a local advocate who is really vocal in the media and is a perfect fit for the Trudeau era: mostly interested in identity politics, female, economically centrist etc. The NDP can’t rely on factory workers and public servants to vote for them in urban areas anymore cause those people can’t afford to live there. They need some bold policies so when they lose at least they get people interested. my morning jackass fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Feb 17, 2018 |
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WaffleLove posted:They're also legit friends. 100% went to university together, not just another good old boy. It how he got the riding here in da sewer, by having Brown come up here in the first place. Are you from da soo? Did you see that W5 documentary, Steeltown Down? Two of my best friends are from up there, from what I understand the opiod crisis is just horrific.
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So the NDP are going for smart, sensible, centrist leadership again? That’s their tack? What a limp balloon.
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They’re going for forgetting to run. Again. They’re loving terrible.
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Stickarts posted:So the NDP are going for smart, sensible, centrist leadership again? That’s their tack? What a limp balloon. It’s loving awful given the massive issues we have in this province with inequality. I think the NDP could do well with universal programs (pharmacare, childcare, post-secondary) but the idea of increasing taxes on anyone, even the super rich, has become so toxic and they can’t formulate a message to save their lives so eh. It’s too bad though, cause it would be pretty easy to sell those programs to middle class families who are being crushed by the increasing cost of these items but are never eligible for any of the targeted (and very poorly administered) assistance.
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MA-Horus posted:Are you from da soo? Did you see that W5 documentary, Steeltown Down? Two of my best friends are from up there, from what I understand the opiod crisis is just horrific. Yes I actually posted it in the thread. Let's just say our city still won't call an crisis for the extra funding it'll give those workers.. I personally think they're scared it'll damage them getting the ferrochrome plant for the Ring Of Fire project. Theirs like 2 other soo goons I know of as well  1 stopped posting other I think still posts in games.
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