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Khorne
May 1, 2002

EorayMel posted:

stolen from YOSPOS which in turn was stolen by reddit

quote:

What is Ravencoin? To us, the RVN community, it's a new open-source project intended to see if a use case specific blockchain designed to be focused on the transfer of assets can develop technology which provides security or functional advantages for certain projects. Specifically working on things like RSK, which will allow solidity to work on this chain, will be huge for Ravencoin in the future. RVN was launched January 3rd 2018 with very little info regarding the future of the project. Since then, several community members have learned that there is an active development team on this coin, and the super clean wallet client and lightning fast network are only the beginning.
With sentence structure and a clear mission statement like that, I'd run try to run a miner in a regulated environment, too! Groundfloor!

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Risc1911
Mar 1, 2016

Andy Dufresne posted:

But see, you aren't talking to any of those people. I'm not sure if you are paying attention to the conversation or what

To be honest i don't, i am too busy buying more crypto with my VISA card on coinbase.

Uranium 235
Oct 12, 2004

Risc1911 posted:

While certificates are not a requirement any more, you can request a certificate any time and take it home.
on an exchange you can withdraw to your own wallet any time, or transfer from one exchange to another (which i've done)

dial down the smugness, you're pretty clueless itt

Uranium 235
Oct 12, 2004

Khorne posted:

With sentence structure and a clear mission statement like that, I'd run try to run a miner in a regulated environment, too! Groundfloor!
that sentence broke my brain

john mcafee has a white paper writing service so it's fair to say that most white papers are garbage without even having to read them

Rad Russian
Aug 15, 2007

Soviet Power Supreme!

Pochoclo posted:

As much as USA labor laws suck (if they even exist in the first place), being able to fire someone in 5 minutes is a bit too much to believe. Hell, the IT department explaining what happened to HR and getting the offence written, consulting the legal department, etc, would deffo take several hours and I doubt it'd result in a termination but then again USA so maybe.

He was sent home not fired. Then in his post he says he was just fired prior to writing the post so presumably that night or next morning. So it's believable. IT should be able to easily see that this dumbass copied the file from his personal dropbox so it was purposefully malicious and not accidental malware. My company would get you escorted out and then fired for this in about the same time frame for a low level employee. If it was someone in management position it would take longer to get execs to sign off etc.

Rad Russian fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Feb 17, 2018

Risc1911
Mar 1, 2016

Uranium 235 posted:

i trade on an exchange so i don't use wallets at all.

Uranium 235 posted:

on an exchange you can withdraw to your own wallet any time, or transfer from one exchange to another (which i've done)


Story checks out.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Risc1911 posted:

Story checks out.

He doesn't use a wallet in the same way that people trading stocks usually don't ask that physical certificates be sent to them. If he wanted to he could set up a wallet and withdraw bitcoins, but he hasn't

QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Feb 17, 2018

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

There Bias Two posted:

Why are these people linking coinbase to their primary bank account?

Because bitcoiners told them that using Coinbase is just as safe as using Vanguard or eTrade

Risc1911
Mar 1, 2016

QuarkJets posted:

He doesn't use a wallet in the same way that people trading stocks usually don't ask that physical certificates be sent to them. If he wanted to he could set up a wallet and withdraw bitcoins, but he hasn't

Yet he says he has. Who gives a gently caress, the guy is full of poo poo, i am done wasting my time with him.

Uranium 235
Oct 12, 2004

Risc1911 posted:

Story checks out.
you're bad at this. where's the contradiction?

i've moved crypto from one exchange to another, and i know a lot of people who have withdrawn crypto from exchanges to their own wallets. clearly the exchanges do hold crypto

coinbase is also required to submit quarterly financial statements and submit to an annual audit by an independent party--all this mandated by the NYSDFS regulations

Harveygod
Jan 4, 2014

YEEAAH HEH HEH HEEEHH

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN

THIS TRASH WAR AIN'T GONNA SOLVE ITSELF YA KNOW

Waltzing Along posted:

Can someone PM me once it dips again? These last few pages have been particularly abhorrent. Thanks.

Uh, did you not see the post about the guy who said he wanted to bring an armed mob to Coinbase's HQ?

My favorite part was his response to people threatening to report him:

"FBI? Good luck finding me! :smuggo:"
*recent Reddit posts reveal what shcool he attends, his major, his study habits, etc.*

Harveygod fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Feb 17, 2018

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Risc1911 posted:

Yet he says he has. Who gives a gently caress, the guy is full of poo poo, i am done wasting my time with him.

No, he hasn't; exchanges can move bitcoins between their addresses for customers without requiring that their customers do the transfer themselves, kind of like how you can transfer money between banks without having to withdraw cash and walk it over yourself

Uranium 235
Oct 12, 2004

Risc1911 posted:

Yet he says he has. Who gives a gently caress, the guy is full of poo poo, i am done wasting my time with him.
is this because i laughed at your chart prediction that was totally wrong?

VictorianQueerLit
Aug 25, 2017

Pochoclo posted:

As much as USA labor laws suck (if they even exist in the first place), being able to fire someone in 5 minutes is a bit too much to believe. Hell, the IT department explaining what happened to HR and getting the offence written, consulting the legal department, etc, would deffo take several hours and I doubt it'd result in a termination but then again USA so maybe.

Are you kidding?

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

VictorianQueerLit posted:

Are you kidding?

He's right imo, it's either fake or the dude was going to get fired anyway and they already had a nice case together in advanced. How would your automated threat detection system tell a real employee loading a miner apart from a compromised employee credential set being used to install a miner? You can't get through that process in 5 literal minutes.

VictorianQueerLit
Aug 25, 2017
We weren't talking about the technical possibility of the matrix sentinels finding his jack-in within a short timeframe

quote:

As much as USA labor laws suck (if they even exist in the first place), being able to fire someone in 5 minutes is a bit too much to believe. Hell, the IT department explaining what happened to HR and getting the offence written, consulting the legal department, etc, would deffo take several hours and I doubt it'd result in a termination but then again USA so maybe.

I asked "Are you kidding?" Because I've seen countless people immediately fired on the spot and escorted from a building for any number of offenses. I'm a Manager and have done it myself.

Risc1911
Mar 1, 2016

Uranium 235 posted:

is this because i laughed at your chart prediction that was totally wrong?

How was that a prediction? If you read carefully you would notice i was making fun of you and charts since you said no one is posting any when prices go up. But reading comprehension is obviously not one of your strengths. HINT: "It could also go to the moon."

Mr.: I am the bitcoin trader that can predict crashes and cash out faster than they happen.

:cripes:

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Salt Fish posted:

He's right imo, it's either fake or the dude was going to get fired anyway and they already had a nice case together in advanced. How would your automated threat detection system tell a real employee loading a miner apart from a compromised employee credential set being used to install a miner? You can't get through that process in 5 literal minutes.
He was sent home to prevent covering any tracks and they did the verification it was a physical log in from his workstation in between sending home and termination. Or any other number of send home/validation/termination scenarios when a watchdog is triggered on a monitored system.

The US has some hosed up labor situations by why is it controversial to terminate someone for running arbitrary code on a medical network?

Rad Russian
Aug 15, 2007

Soviet Power Supreme!

zedprime posted:

The US has some hosed up labor situations by why is it controversial to terminate someone for running arbitrary code on a medical network?

If it was in France they'd be forced to have him stay on and mine on the hospital's network for at least 3 months while working through various labor union mediators!

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

zedprime posted:

He was sent home to prevent covering any tracks and they did the verification it was a physical log in from his workstation in between sending home and termination. Or any other number of send home/validation/termination scenarios when a watchdog is triggered on a monitored system.

The US has some hosed up labor situations by why is it controversial to terminate someone for running arbitrary code on a medical network?

I don't think it's controversial to do so, I just think that something about the story doesn't completely add up. We already know that the person in the story is a huge idiot, so it seems likely that they already had a target on their back.

I'm encouraging a little skepticism only because I think having some credibility makes it easier to make fun of crypto in the ways it deserves. You don't want to be the guy that is willing to believe someone was walking around NYC selling chuck'e cheese tokens for $100 a pop by saying they're bitcoins.

Risc1911
Mar 1, 2016

https://www.reddit.com/r/CoinBase/comments/7y84b4/my_debit_card_on_file_was_cancelled_when_coinbase/

My debit card on file was cancelled when coinbase started double charging so coinbase took money from my USD Wallet

Will I still get my refund from this? I cancelled my debit card a couple weeks before people started getting double charged so I no longer have any debit cards associated with coinbase but coinbase took $500 out of my $1200 balance from my USD wallet on the site for no reason.


I bet they blame VISA for that too.

Uranium 235
Oct 12, 2004

Risc1911 posted:

How was that a prediction? If you read carefully you would notice i was making fun of you and charts since you said no one is posting any when prices go up.
you're confusing me with someone else, i never posted that

quote:

But reading comprehension is obviously not one of your strengths.
ironic that you say that, considering the above

quote:

Mr.: I am the bitcoin trader that can predict crashes and cash out faster than they happen.

:cripes:
another thing i've never said

is posting wrong things your gimmick or what?

Risc1911
Mar 1, 2016

Uranium 235 posted:

is posting wrong things your gimmick or what?

Uranium 235 posted:

if there's a tether meltdown, i'll see it developing because i know what it will look like.

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

Uranium 235 posted:

you're confusing me with someone else, i never posted that
ironic that you say that, considering the above

another thing i've never said

is posting wrong things your gimmick or what?

Ok, but you did say:

"if there's a tether meltdown, i'll see it developing because i know what it will look like. prices on tether exchanges should skyrocket as everyone converts from USDT to crypto, and prices on fiat exchanges should plummet as crypto is transferred from tether exchanges to fiat ones and then sold into actual money. so even if the news doesn't come out publicly and it's just insiders saving their skin, the signs should be clear."

The way I read this you're saying that you have the ability to see a crash coming and cash out before everyone else.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

VictorianQueerLit posted:

I asked "Are you kidding?" Because I've seen countless people immediately fired on the spot and escorted from a building for any number of offenses. I'm a Manager and have done it myself.

Yes yes I tend to forget how horrid labor laws are in some places, sorry

VictorianQueerLit
Aug 25, 2017

Salt Fish posted:

I'm encouraging a little skepticism only because I think having some credibility makes it easier to make fun of crypto in the ways it deserves. You don't want to be the guy that is willing to believe someone was walking around NYC selling chuck'e cheese tokens for $100 a pop by saying they're bitcoins.

I agree with that.

It's why I keep calling out the people saying Eurotether are the cause for the price rising. Everyone knows tethers influenced the price due to their printing but people are equating a second flavor of tether with the same thing.

The price hit $6,000 then rebounded to $7,000+ the next day and a day after that is when Eurotether came into existence. It's also never printed beyond the initial amount (80m) it magically appeared with. So you can't attribute weeks of upward movement to that one single event. It's still hilarious and dumb and obviously a scam but it isn't actually responsible for anything yet.

They totally could start printing eurotethers to cause the price to rise but they aren't yet.

I'm all for correctness in my mocking, which is why Risc1911 is completely off base here. The funny thing about Uranium is he thinks he has been able to predict the market due to being profitable. Not the specifics in which the ways the trading works is dumb, especially if you are wrong about them. It just makes Bitcoin Nostradamus look more credible when you choose to attack him in a dumb/factually incorrect way about something tangentially related to why he is dumb.

Uranium 235
Oct 12, 2004

Salt Fish posted:

Ok, but you did say:

"if there's a tether meltdown, i'll see it developing because i know what it will look like. prices on tether exchanges should skyrocket as everyone converts from USDT to crypto, and prices on fiat exchanges should plummet as crypto is transferred from tether exchanges to fiat ones and then sold into actual money. so even if the news doesn't come out publicly and it's just insiders saving their skin, the signs should be clear."

The way I read this you're saying that you have the ability to see a crash coming and cash out before everyone else.
like i've said before, my default position is cash. i only hold crypto on the exchanges when i'm making a trade, and i only day trade. i keep tight stop losses so if the price drops significantly for any reason (just usual market movements, news-related crash, tether meltdown, or whatever) then i'll be out of my position and back in cash. so cashing out in the event of something like this isn't a challenge, because if there is a tether meltdown then the price of crypto on my exchange will drop.

what i described is how a tether-related meltdown will likely play out. everyone will run for the exits, but the people stuck on tether exchanges can only cash out by buying crypto, transferring to fiat exchanges, and selling there. that drives up the price on tether exchanges and drives down the price fiat exchanges. if anyone thinks this hypothetical scenario is incorrect, i'd sincerely like to hear why.

Uranium 235
Oct 12, 2004

yeah that doesn't mean what you think it means, see above

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Uranium 235 posted:

like i've said before, my default position is cash. i only hold crypto on the exchanges when i'm making a trade, and i only day trade. i keep tight stop losses so if the price drops significantly for any reason (just usual market movements, news-related crash, tether meltdown, or whatever) then i'll be out of my position and back in cash. so cashing out in the event of something like this isn't a challenge, because if there is a tether meltdown then the price of crypto on my exchange will drop.

what i described is how a tether-related meltdown will likely play out. everyone will run for the exits, but the people stuck on tether exchanges can only cash out by buying crypto, transferring to fiat exchanges, and selling there. that drives up the price on tether exchanges and drives down the price fiat exchanges. if anyone thinks this hypothetical scenario is incorrect, i'd sincerely like to hear why.
I think the controversial part of your reasoning is that its guaranteed crypto's next step is to have a nuclear meltdown thus your cash means you're never gonna lose. Instead there could be a series of slowly deflating balloons that cause each of your subsequent day trades to lose at which point maybe yeah you have the forethought to stop ahead and find the new bubble du jour or else you tell yourself well it hasn't melted down yet, press on.

Its ultimately a pointless argument because we won't even be able to compare final tots because the forum might blow up or the world might blow up before crypto does to compare your final position and whether it would have been more worthwhile to hold assets like a normal person.

e. also I'd argue that a day trader's biggest enemy is other day traders or market makers because there's a limited amount of fat to trim and you start losing out when the sharks start hitting it in addition to you, not when the bubble crashes.

Uranium 235
Oct 12, 2004

VictorianQueerLit posted:

The funny thing about Uranium is he thinks he has been able to predict the market due to being profitable.
i've said the opposite--that no one can predict the market. the best that can be done is to see what the market has done in the past and make guesses about what is more likely to happen in the future. i'm always prepared to be wrong which is why i only make entries when i believe the risk to reward is low. i cut losing trades quickly and let winning trades run longer. this is why i compare it to poker--the key to being successful is managing risk and only playing when you believe the odds are favorable

Uranium 235
Oct 12, 2004

zedprime posted:

I think the controversial part of your reasoning is that its guaranteed crypto's next step is to have a nuclear meltdown thus your cash means you're never gonna lose. Instead there could be a series of slowly deflating balloons that cause each of your subsequent day trades to lose at which point maybe yeah you have the forethought to stop ahead and find the new bubble du jour or else you tell yourself well it hasn't melted down yet, press on.

Its ultimately a pointless argument because we won't even be able to compare final tots because the forum might blow up or the world might blow up before crypto does to compare your final position and whether it would have been more worthwhile to hold assets like a normal person.

e. also I'd argue that a day trader's biggest enemy is other day traders or market makers because there's a limited amount of fat to trim and you start losing out when the sharks start hitting it in addition to you, not when the bubble crashes.
those are fair points but i was profitable from the 19k peak to the 6k bottom, i can be profitable in a downtrend

the biggest risk is that my exchange fails and keeps my money, that's a legitimate risk and managing that risk is my biggest concern. if the market is in decline i can just choose to trade less or not trade at all

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

I can predict and profit off the crypto market, 100% confirmed and consistent profits

PM me for details on how to buy my amazing system for a small fee and you tOO can profit from the Crypto Revolution

Sometimes the world is about to change... will YOU be ready to take advantage of this opportunity?

This investment opportunity is much like a roller coaster.

Sometimes, you cannot always see what's around the next corner. However, in the end, it is definitely worth the ride. It's not about how many eggs you have in your basket, that's just an old, outdated cliche that no longer works for todays savvy investor. Your financial future lies in how those eggs are nurtured so they may hatch into their full grown potential. Financial success is not about watching over your basket, its about taking vested action.

Comfy Fleece Sweater fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Feb 17, 2018

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Salt Fish posted:

He's right imo, it's either fake or the dude was going to get fired anyway and they already had a nice case together in advanced. How would your automated threat detection system tell a real employee loading a miner apart from a compromised employee credential set being used to install a miner? You can't get through that process in 5 literal minutes.

Nowhere does that story claim he was fired "in 5 literal minutes". The account being locked within 5 minutes because he ran something unauthorized and potentially harmful isn't far-fetched at all?

VictorianQueerLit
Aug 25, 2017

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

I can predict and profit off the crypto market, 100% confirmed and consistent profits

PM me for details on how to buy my amazing system for a small fee and you tOO can profit from the Crypto Revolution

Sometimes the world is about to change... will YOU be ready to take advantage of this opportunity?

This investment opportunity is much like a roller coaster.

Sometimes, you cannot always see what's around the next corner. However, in the end, it is definitely worth the ride.

It's not a system it's just setting up a stop loss so you can't lose too much then waiting for price spikes, which with cryptos happens every minute or so due to them being extremely volatile.

This works because Cryptos don't have the large High Frequency Trading bots like the real stock market and it isn't widespread due to the amount of time and effort involved. Most people want to get rich quick and don't have the patience to spend what is probably as many hours as a real job making a million tiny amounts.

It's basically the extreme couponing of trading where you can min-max the market if you devote enough time to having a trillion penny transactions that are profitable but most people don't do it for a reason even if it is profitable.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:


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LTE network in Brooklyn, New York. On November 30, 2017, in response to the complaint
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Brooklyn, New York. When the interfering device was turned off the interference ceased. You
identified the device as an Antminer s5 Bitcoin Miner. The device was generating spurious
emissions on frequencies assigned to T-Mobile’s broadband network and causing harmful
interference.1
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incidental radiator is subject to the conditions that no harmful interference is caused.2
Section
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harmful interference.3
Operation shall not resume until the condition causing the harmful
interference has been corrected.
You are hereby notified, pursuant to Section 15.5(c) of the Commission’s rules, 47 CFR §
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that causes harmful interference after your receipt of this warning constitutes a violation of the
Federal laws cited above and could subject the operator to severe penalties, including, but not
limited to, substantial monetary fines, in rem arrest action to seize the offending radio


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jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Pretty sure uranium isn't the guy to be jumping on. He's admitted to not believing in bitcoin's future and has been doing short term trading. He's just applied some higher-than-lowest-denominator Reddit logic to trading and risk management. Kinda feel he's being dogpiled on when he's one of the more rational posters in this thread. Second only to the butt guy.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Uranium 235 posted:

those are fair points but i was profitable from the 19k peak to the 6k bottom, i can be profitable in a downtrend

the biggest risk is that my exchange fails and keeps my money, that's a legitimate risk and managing that risk is my biggest concern. if the market is in decline i can just choose to trade less or not trade at all

I'm even profitable when the market doesn't move at all. Stop bragging about being terrible at trading.

Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Feb 17, 2018

Dairy Days
Dec 26, 2007


these bitcoin miners are really on the spectrum

VictorianQueerLit
Aug 25, 2017

jonathan posted:

Pretty sure uranium isn't the guy to be jumping on. He's admitted to not believing in bitcoin's future and has been doing short term trading. He's just applied some higher-than-lowest-denominator Reddit logic to trading and risk management. Kinda feel he's being dogpiled on when he's one of the more rational posters in this thread. Second only to the butt guy.

Ham Sandwiches deserves it though.

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turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

Fame Douglas posted:

Nowhere does that story claim he was fired "in 5 literal minutes". The account being locked within 5 minutes because he ran something unauthorized and potentially harmful isn't far-fetched at all?

And if he told them he did it intentionally then lmao yes he is getting fired asap and probably getting a visit from the feds.

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