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I Before E posted:Whatever your thoughts on Armond, more critics should have the audacity to have The Chronicles Of Riddick be one of their first comparisons in a review in 2018. He sounds like a typical cranky right-winger but Chronicles is one of the best movies of all time so I'll give him that
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I Before E posted:Whatever your thoughts on Armond, more critics should have the audacity to have The Chronicles Of Riddick be one of their first comparisons in a review in 2018. Both characters are of mighty lineage and fight with dual-wielded short blades that represent Honor Or Whatever. Black Panther --> Riddick is a natural comparison.
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Feb 18, 2018 00:16
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Chronicles of Riddick is also one of Christian Grey's favorite childhood movies.
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Feb 18, 2018 00:26
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Are we talking poo poo about Chronicles of Riddick because I swear to Christ
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Feb 18, 2018 00:29
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CelticPredator posted:No one was owning me, and I just like insulting the man or putting down his accomplishments. I really hate him. He lacks sincerity in his work and tries to rile people up. People who do that are complete trash of the highest order and I can’t believe people here like his work. I don't know why, but I suddenly got an image of you as Jason Clarke in Zero Dark Thirty.  "C'mon, Armond. Tell me what I want to hear, bro!" "No... Man of Steel is the first superhero movie to be directed by a real filmmaker." "When you lie to me, I must insult you, you complete trashbag of the highest order. Bro."*intense approved messageboarding techniques* "It's cool that you're wrong and I really disrespect it, I do. But in the end, everybody breaks, bro. It's cinematology." "Man of Steel allows sci-fi blockbuster audiences to finally emerge from post-9/11 darkness." "Partial truth will be treated as a lie! I will hate you on the internet, you douche!"
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Feb 18, 2018 00:30
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The MSJ posted:Chronicles of Riddick is also one of Christian Grey's favorite childhood movies. Don't tell me Christian Grey would slam in his DVD every morning and do all the movies
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Feb 18, 2018 00:31
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ynohtna posted:
Wow, someone hates Ang Lee I guess.
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Feb 18, 2018 00:32
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:Don't tell me Christian Grey would slam in his DVD every morning and do all the movies EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. ITS FIFTTY SHADES OF GREY AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTERS, CHRISTIAN. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN ON ANASTASIA’S INNER GODDESS OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY hosed THE WORLD’S MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMAN. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY OFFICE AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN OFFICE CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JERKS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE LINES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY APARTMENT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNING. THEN I LIFT Fake edit: Here's a screenshot from Fifty Shades Darker showing the poster. It also has Dakota Johnson, so two beauties in one picture. 
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Feb 18, 2018 00:34
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ImpAtom posted:Wow, someone hates Ang Lee I guess.
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Feb 18, 2018 00:44
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He really liked Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk tho so I think maybe Ang Lee falls somewhere in the O.K. category for him?
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Feb 18, 2018 00:48
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He really liked Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk because everyone else hated it. That's it. That's his job.
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Feb 18, 2018 00:55
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Jimbot posted:What's the dude's deal? It seems like every review he writes is one contrary to popular opinion. Is he a contrarian? Troll? An under-appreciated genius that won't be recognized in his lifetime? All of the above? He writes far too well to just be a contrarian. If he can seriously walk into a movie, having decided to hate or like it depending on the breeze, then work backwards and craft a long, complex, self supporting review, he might be a wizard. It's like a Scalia-level ability to work backwards, but much less destructive porfiria posted:Armond White is against everything, which means he's right quite a bit, but then again if I just started shooting people in the street I'd be improving the world in a lot of cases and I don't think anyone thinks that's a good idea except possibly the NRA. Depends, did you buy the gun new from a reliable wholesaler? Ideally a current model?
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Feb 18, 2018 00:57
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Raxivace posted:Actually, I think he does. He opens his Life of Pi review by saying "No one can make a dull film like Ang Lee can". Couldn't find his Hulk review, did find this though: "Despite peanut-gallery consensus, Ang Lee’s 2002 The Hulk was a respectable failure—in fact, it was Lee’s least enervating cinematic adaptation. Typically overlong, its sincere attempt to produce Pop imagery respected Stan Lee’s original story. Scientist Bruce Banner’s exposure to gamma rays that turn him into a creature of uncontrollable anger made a better comic-book movie—with actors Nick Nolte, Eric Bana and Jennifer Connelly making it plausible—than the Marvel Comics audience could appreciate. Now there’s a new film version titled The Incredible Hulk, starring actor-auteur Edward Norton; it’s the crappy summer blockbuster Marvelites probably deserve." He's still a pretty good film cricket, I really dug reviews of The Last Jedi and The Shape of Water.
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Feb 18, 2018 01:07
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Interesting. I remember being one of the few kids who really liked Lee's Hulk when it first came out. I'd love to watch it again sometime, and then look at what Armond's more precise issues with it are.
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Feb 18, 2018 01:20
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Snowman_McK posted:He writes far too well to just be a contrarian. If he can seriously walk into a movie, having decided to hate or like it depending on the breeze, then work backwards and craft a long, complex, self supporting review, he might be a wizard. It's like a Scalia-level ability to work backwards, but much less destructive It’s possible he just has poor taste.
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Feb 18, 2018 01:21
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Armond White is a troll, but he isn't insincere. Trolling is just telling your genuine beliefs to people who don't want to hear them.
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Feb 18, 2018 01:37
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I don’t take White the least bit seriously but his reviews are entertaining. He loving tees off on poo poo he doesn’t like and he’s got this wholly unwarranted smugness. It’s kinda funny
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Feb 18, 2018 01:42
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Yeah, he's certainly outspoken and confrontational in the way he expresses his opinions, but those opinions are genuinely held.
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Feb 18, 2018 01:43
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Ferrinus posted:Armond White is a troll, but he isn't insincere. Trolling is just telling your genuine beliefs to people who don't want to hear them. Who is he unwillingly imposing his writing upon?
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Feb 18, 2018 01:48
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Feb 18, 2018 02:01
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It’s ridiculous but unsurprising that people try to decipher White’s traumatic writing with wild theorizing, when the reviews themselves express clear and basic stuff like ‘Disney-Marvel marketing turns the black panthers into The Lion King’. Like, hummm, durr, what does he really mean by that?
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Feb 18, 2018 03:01
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Is anyone claiming his reviews are hard to understand? hummm durr
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Feb 18, 2018 03:06
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sponges posted:Is anyone claiming his reviews are hard to understand? hummm durr Not understanding can take the form of thinking that the stated beliefs are “trolling” or “smug” Writing earnestly and truthfully about art (especially from a critic) is so rare that y’all think he’s bad for just...writing what he thinks
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Feb 18, 2018 03:27
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Waffles Inc. posted:Not understanding can take the form of thinking that the stated beliefs are “trolling” or “smug” I kinda get the impression you’re impressed by any critic that isn’t Gene Shalit.
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Feb 18, 2018 03:37
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sponges posted:I kinda get the impression you’re impressed by any critic that isn’t Gene Shalit. drat OP you...you got me
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Feb 18, 2018 03:38
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Buddy I'm impressed as hell by Gene Shalit, that hair care regimen must be intensive
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Feb 18, 2018 04:03
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I haven't seen it, and I never will, but I will go to my grave absolutely certain that Jack and Jill is not "hilarious."
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Feb 18, 2018 04:31
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sponges posted:Is anyone claiming his reviews are hard to understand? hummm durr No. People are coming up with theories to explain away the existence of the reviews instead of just reading them. They aren’t aware that they are having difficulty. They are, in fact, claiming that the reviews are easy to understand. But when White says that Black Panther is a Lion King (with a circle of hype / and it moves us all / ‘til we find our place / in the circle / the circle of hype...) that’s the sort of slam that demands an immediate, snappy response of the kind Joss Whedon can’t write for you. Because if you’re not prepared for that sort of basic observation, why are you even trying to discuss this topic? There are a lot of simple responses that people could have made, e.g.: -“No, Black Panther is actually politically radical, because...” -“Black Panther has nothing in common with The Lion King, because...” -“The black panther party were actually evil, because...” You aren’t seeing these basic responses because nobody actually - in their actions, in their writing - has any disagreement with White whatsoever. The traumatic point is that he’s right - and not ashamed of being right?
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Feb 18, 2018 04:45
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What the gently caress do you want? Someone brought up White and people are rightfully accusing him of: 1). Trolling 2). Having jaw droppingly bad taste in movies. Yes, we’re making generalalities but this isn’t the Armond White thread. The guy thought Jack and Jill was hilarious. His opinion is worthless
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Feb 18, 2018 04:51
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sponges posted:What the gently caress do you want? Someone brought up White and people are rightfully accusing him of: How dare people read and respond to actual criticism in the super hero thread!
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Feb 18, 2018 04:57
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White has a really good point about the Black Panther film and that is that its been marketed as a actual tool of empowerment by Disney.
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Feb 18, 2018 05:01
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Hollismason posted:White has a really good point about the Black Panther film and that is that its been marketed as a actual tool of empowerment by Disney. People leveled the same accusation against the Ghostbusters reboot.
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Feb 18, 2018 05:08
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sponges posted:What the gently caress do you want? I already wrote that out in the post you’re ostensibly replying to - which points to a broader issue, doesn’t it? Again, the point is that you are unprepared to actually discuss the topic. So instead of simply saying that White is wrong, you can only speculate about the level of sincerity behind his correct stance: that he ‘must be’, paradoxically, both insincere and hypersincere. sponges posted:People leveled the same accusation against the Ghostbusters reboot. People were correct. Of course it was marketed as empowering. The theme song / promotional single is literally Missy Elliot singing about how the new ghostbusters empower her. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Feb 18, 2018 |
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Feb 18, 2018 05:14
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I already wrote that out in the post you’re ostensibly replying to - which points to a broader issue, doesn’t it? White is wrong. There, I said it. We can all move on.
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Feb 18, 2018 05:30
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sponges posted:White is wrong. There, I said it. We can all move on. Why is he wrong?
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Feb 18, 2018 05:33
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white is a very representative critic for cd 1. contrarian to a fault 2. likes trash 3. works for racist agenda
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Feb 18, 2018 05:36
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Why is he wrong? Farg posted:1. contrarian to a fault
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Feb 18, 2018 05:48
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Farg posted:white is a very representative critic for cd 
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Feb 18, 2018 05:49
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The dastardly contrarian who thinks... wait... Edgar Wright movies are good! Oh, wait, uh... huh, oh! That The Help was bullshit! Nah, wait...
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We’ve already established that insincerity and/or hypersincerity don’t render a statement incorrect, so that just leaves the nebulous claim that White ‘works for an agenda’. What does that mean? Again, this should have been very easy for you.
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